King~
Smash Champion
Question: do i have to use falco in the practice tourney?
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FMOI and Glyph present War of the Roses. DABUZ IS THE CHAMP!
- Thread starter Fatmanonice
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cheap_josh
Smash Ace
I switched back to Kirby incase you didn't read the spoilers.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Aryman
Smash Master
Anyone wanna play some practice matches?
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
umm i would like to join this tournament as metaknight please.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
You'll be added in a sec. Only four spots open after this.
ShinTobias
Smash Rookie
ill join this tournament as peach.
You joined 1 hour ago and have 1 post. Are you sure we'll be able to trust you that you'll make it?
ShinTobias
Smash Rookie
yes im very sure.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Do you want to do some more practice? I want to test some things out with Toon Link (mainly zair approaches).
ShinTobias
Smash Rookie
No ty im fine thxs for the help.
ShinTobias
Smash Rookie
srry my bad lol
cheap_josh
Smash Ace
If anyone else wants to do friendlies I'm game.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Sure, that works.
@ ShinTobias:
Do you promise to make this tournament? The tournament is next Saturday.
Steel_Dragon
Smash Journeyman
Fmoi can you help me wth ike please
i dont think i am tourny ready with him
i dont think i am tourny ready with him
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
I'm bored and want to Brawl.
Anybody up for it?
Anybody up for it?
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Sure, what do you want to know or do you want to fight me?
cheap_josh
Smash Ace
Maybe Steel Dragon should play FMOI and I can brawl Skyler.
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
@Fatmanonice
Don't worry about Shino. He's a pretty good player and one of my close friends. He may look like a noob but he's not. I just told him to sign up and sign up for the tournament so that the spots would get filled. Also his other account errored so he had to make a new one anyway. i'll make sure he shows up.
Don't worry about Shino. He's a pretty good player and one of my close friends. He may look like a noob but he's not. I just told him to sign up and sign up for the tournament so that the spots would get filled. Also his other account errored so he had to make a new one anyway. i'll make sure he shows up.
ShinTobias
Smash Rookie
yes i promise to make it to this tourament? which is next saturday.
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
I don't care what ends up happening <_<
Somebody just PM me so I can play.
Somebody just PM me so I can play.
Steel_Dragon
Smash Journeyman
fmoi i want to fight you then get my ike critiqued
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
I don't judge people but the usual trend is that people who sign up tend to decide whether or not they are going to be long term members after about 2 weeks because those that don't usually just become bored and leave. I signed him up, by the way.
My FC is in my profile. I'll fight you using Ike.
Steel_Dragon
Smash Journeyman
Fmoi i added you
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
I just got on; I go by FMOI.
Steel_Dragon
Smash Journeyman
well i think i completely ****ed up i cant even get 2 hits with out ****ing diying
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
That's because Ike is extremelly easy to predict if you play too aggressively with him. This is what I noticed:
1. You don't grab.
2. You don't really attack with aerials.
3. You use aether and eruption at seemingly random times.
4. You fully charge fsmashes even when I'm standing still and not even coming at you.
5. You don't jab.
6. You use counter way too much.
7. You use quickdraw more than you should.
Suggestions:
1. Grabbing is important with everyone. It might as well be called "counter" because that's essentially what you use it for most characters. Like I showed you in our matches, very easy set ups can be done with Ike's dthrow and bthrow. Dthrow into aether, dthrow into a short hopped uair, dthrow into nair, dthrow into a charged smash, etc. Bthrow into quickdraw, bthrow into a short hopped bair, etc.
2. Except for his nair, Ike's aerials have a lot of landing lag but they are still important. The range of Ike's fair is crazy and is a relatively safe move when playing against people who don't have very many ranged attacks. Using the cstick to do retreating fairs is a good tactic. Nairs are good for approaches and if your opponent is close by because it has very little landing lag and can easily be followed up by something else.
3. These attacks are situational at best so reserve for times that call for them. For example, eruption can be used to edgeguard people with predictible recoveries.
4. Fsmash is retardedly slow. It's the second slowest smash attack in the game and has a ton of ending lag. Whiff and your opponent pretty much gets a free hit. Use it sparingly. Ike is powerful enough to kill with his fair, bair, utilt, ftilt, etc so use those as alternatives. Also, dsmash is garbage, try not to even do it in a match unless it's really necessecary.
5. Jabs are essentially Ike's bread and butter. A good Ike will probably get 25-50% of the damage he does per stock with this move alone. Great range, great knockback... probably Ike's best move overall.
6. Counter is also situational. The most you used it in a row was five and most of the time I easily countered it by grabbing. If I had been playing as Toon Link, Zelda, or Falco (ie; people who don't have to fully rely on physical attacks) you would have been very lucky if any of them had landed. Save them for oppurtune moments.
7. Truth be told, quickdraw is a terrible attack. If it whiffs, you're left wide open which is never a good then and it can easily be shielded. It's best used for mobility. It it doesn't hit, you can easily set up jabs and tilts because it has close to no landing lag (if it doesn't hit anything). I even used it to edgehog in a few of our matches.
That's basically it unless I can come up with anything else.
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
Hey FM...think you could go a couple of rounds with me? I think i already have you added on my wii unless you deleted me. I'm gonna try and use ike.
Steel_Dragon
Smash Journeyman
i basicaly cant do anything then
****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! remove me please
i seriously hate brawl now
****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! remove me please
i seriously hate brawl now
Excellence
Smash Champion
I'm open for playing anyone until 11:00 tonight, afterwhich I won't be exception matches because I am going to a Renaissance Faire in Pennsylvania and I need to wake up at 4:15 AM to be ready.
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
Lol..I dunno Excellence...I heard you're a beast...
cheap_josh
Smash Ace
Anyone else want to play friendlies?
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
i'll play friendlies i guess.
Astrokirby
Smash Cadet
Is it possible to switch characters? Im sure SOMEONE is dying to be a space animal... ^_K
cheap_josh
Smash Ace
I added you Shogun.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Don't worry, I've played far worse Ikes. At least you didn't hopelessly spam his specials and smash attacks. Really, it just takes practice to get better. Play a ton of different people and learn new strategies. If someone uses something that dominates you in your play, try to adapt it into your own playstyle. Most of the stuff I do I learned from other people and just screwing around in training mode.
Shogun_Fox
Smash Ace
Yeah ike is kind of an aquired taste lol.
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Ike is one of those characters you can't play straight forward as. He's like Yoshi, Bowser, and Shiek; you have to put more thought into your attacks than most characters because you'll get the crap kicked out of you if you just rush in. This is why most people who try to pick up these characters usually fail miseribly and are given the usual "oh, well, they just suck" excuse for when they do bad.