Noa.
Smash Master
For more information about the Falco matchup, checkout this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=253061
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FinOlimar Q&A Thread! (Check OP before posting)
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Llumys
Smash Champion
Noa.
Smash Master
Get ninja'd Llumys. =p You're not the only one who stalks these boards.
Denti
Smash Master
what are all the good CP stages against diddy for olimar? i need all of them to see which one works for me. please and thank you.
Llumys
Smash Champion
Everyone's aware.
Denti
Smash Master
yea, every pikmin can spike, some more knock back than others but some more "pull" than others. white pikmin spikes are strange....
Llumys
Smash Champion
That wasn't his point. He mentioned yellows because of their range.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Look for matchup discussion or the stage discussion threads.
Llumys
Smash Champion
We covered the Diddy match-up a week or so ago.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Was it on AiM or was there just a thread for it?
Llumys
Smash Champion
It was on AIM.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Ok then, so I missed the Diddy match up discussion, I'll need the summaries for him and Marth (I didn't save Marth's 
) Llumys, if you don't ind hooking me up with all the summaries I've missed I'll appreciate that (basically I missed all the summaries that happened ) Would you need my E-Mail?
) Llumys, if you don't ind hooking me up with all the summaries I've missed I'll appreciate that (basically I missed all the summaries that happened ) Would you need my E-Mail?
Denti
Smash Master
so that totally hasn't answered my question for the question and answer thread, and fino hasn't said anything for 3 days, this thread is slow 
Fino
Smash Master
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=245053so that totally hasn't answered my question for the question and answer thread, and fino hasn't said anything for 3 days, this thread is slow
Llumys
Smash Champion
If you stale red f-smash, all your f-smashes will be stale, etc.
I'm unsure about specials and yellow's disjoints, though.
I'm unsure about specials and yellow's disjoints, though.
Which one of you is the reason Lee Martin hates olimar??
I'm never picking olimar against him again EVER!!!!
Actual question though, what is the best way to deal with shield pressure? Oli's roll is so puny I usually just get punished.
I'm never picking olimar against him again EVER!!!!
Actual question though, what is the best way to deal with shield pressure? Oli's roll is so puny I usually just get punished.
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No. Just forget about the different types of pikmin. When you look at stale moves, just imagine they're all blues or reds or somethin. It doesn't matter. All of his attacks will stale equally no matter which pikmin you use for the attack.
For example, your opponent is at 90%. You white upsmash, mistaking the white pikmin for a purple. It'll stale the upsmash so if you happen to purple upsmash as your next attack it'll have less power than had you not upsmashed with a white before then.
Zori
Smash Champion
that would be me @_@
Noa.
Smash Master
Oli's shield is extremely difficult to shield poke, so at times just holding shield gets the job done. Though Nair OoS isn't too bad of an option sometimes.
Llumys
Smash Champion
Against Marth's downward dancing blade tilt downward, etc.
Tilting your shield is terribly important in Brawl. It's definitely something you need to learn.
Also, don't roll.
Tilting your shield is terribly important in Brawl. It's definitely something you need to learn.
Also, don't roll.
Jane
Smash Hero
it is?!?
can someone explain to me why its so important? o:
can someone explain to me why its so important? o:
Llumys
Smash Champion
It's to keep you from getting your shield poked.
You are going to LasT4 right? I'll see if I can go and ask you some stuff there :D.
Should I WAC MK's dair or attempt PS it? Near the edge.
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I'm trying to make it. ;D No promises though. D:
Before I gave up on the MK matchup I'd just shield, lol. It's your safest option if he's right above you. That and upsmash if you think you can get it to hit... or upb if you're 100% sure it'll hit.
Something you can do if you're able to do it is DI while in your shield to avoid falling off stage. That or just latching to the stage as you're pushed out of your shield.
This begs the the question... can you land on stage after getting pushed off by doing Llumys tether trick as you're falling off? O_o
Llumys
Smash Champion
Hmm.
Possibly. I'd like to see if we could do it with DASC as well.
Possibly. I'd like to see if we could do it with DASC as well.
Jobes
Smash Apprentice
Hey sorry if this is somewhere obvious, but i couldn't find it. How do you pluck pikmin fast and almost laglessly like in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsUPhs9KygQ
Sky Pirate
The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
This is probably an insignificant and easily answered question, but I can't seem to find the post explaining this.
When storing one of Diddy's bananas using the "Set L or R to 'Attack'" method, is there an easier way to use aerials than using them immediately following a whistle?
My apologies if this has been asked already.
When storing one of Diddy's bananas using the "Set L or R to 'Attack'" method, is there an easier way to use aerials than using them immediately following a whistle?
My apologies if this has been asked already.
Fino
Smash Master
Why would you want to?
~Fino
Jane
Smash Hero
what are oli's good/best options oos? i've noticed i never ever jump oos, is this somethingi should be doing? also i've started jabbing oos to get some room, is this good or bad?
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Jab out of shield comes out just as fast as Olimar's grab at pointblank range. At about ftilt range away though, a jab will hit the opponent more quickly. They can just hold shield to avoid the second hit of the jab though, so what's the point. *shrugs*
Another good option out of shield is to jump cancel an upsmash. If they land directly next to you or are possibly using a rising aerial, you can jump out of shield->upsmash to hit them where a grab wouldn't work, and perhaps where an aerial wouldn't hit either if they're rising too quickly for you to be able to jump and do an aerial in time.
To answer your second question... yes, aerials out of shield are great (if you're at least somewhat sure they'll hit, that is)- especially nair.
One last thing. Use aerials out of shield sparingly. You don't want to get caught in the air.
Another good option out of shield is to jump cancel an upsmash. If they land directly next to you or are possibly using a rising aerial, you can jump out of shield->upsmash to hit them where a grab wouldn't work, and perhaps where an aerial wouldn't hit either if they're rising too quickly for you to be able to jump and do an aerial in time.
To answer your second question... yes, aerials out of shield are great (if you're at least somewhat sure they'll hit, that is)- especially nair.
One last thing. Use aerials out of shield sparingly. You don't want to get caught in the air.
Jane
Smash Hero
ok cool, quick question though, what is a jump canceled upsmash?
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If you press "up + A" or up on the c-stick right after you jump, you'll cancel the jump into the upsmash.
The developers included that mechanic into the game to give you a bigger frame window to upsmash normally so you don't accidentally jump.
The developers included that mechanic into the game to give you a bigger frame window to upsmash normally so you don't accidentally jump.
Llumys
Smash Champion
The input method doesn't really matter; it works with any button.
Just up smash within the first few frames of your jump. It's the same for canceling your jump into an up special.
Just up smash within the first few frames of your jump. It's the same for canceling your jump into an up special.
Sky Pirate
The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
I can take that one of two ways.
1. Why would I want to hold on to one of Diddy's bananas?
2. Why would I want to be able to perform fast aerials while doing so?
The answer is "lol" to either one, but if you have a third option I would love to hear it.
Tin Man
Smash Hero
Tell me a couple of situations where I lose the boost form my UpB when I'm recovering (assuming I don't grab the stage with it cause the opponent is there.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
If you aerial while holding a banana, you throw the banana. I don't understand what you're trying to do.