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Final Destination: Workshop General social thread

leafgreen386

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That's why I play with strategic or no items... unless I'm playing with my little sister. Y'know.

I might be getting a DS. MKW vs. MKDS? About the same or is one better? I've heard both.
Well, if you read my essay on it, you'd know I think that just about any one of the past couple MK games were far superior to MKW.

Haha if enough people from this site start getting into MKDS I may have to start playing again.

I tell you that has happened to me in MK DS before.
If you replace "pow block" with "lightning" then I'd certainly believe it. I've had some pretty ridiculous things happen before in MK games in grand prix, but... it's grand prix. The computers in MK games cheat. Fact.
 

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If you replace "pow block" with "lightning" then I'd certainly believe it. I've had some pretty ridiculous things happen before in MK games in grand prix, but... it's grand prix. The computers in MK games cheat. Fact.
Unless if your playing MKDS and snake. Though I'm confused why CPUs catch up to you in other Mario Kart games no matter how fast you go. :confused:
 

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Unless if your playing MKDS and snake. Though I'm confused why CPUs catch up to you in other Mario Kart games no matter how fast you go. :confused:
Because according to Nintendo, winning isn't fun.

The only way to have fun when you are playing Grand Prix with the computers is to get your *** whooped because they always match your speed and get the most stupidest items every time.

Mushroom, Star, Golden Mushroom, doesn't matter. They will go the same speed as you.
Though they weren't really made to match the speed of hardcore snaking.

I remember yelling at MK64 so much because the computers would catch up on Rainbow Road after doing the jump off the hill no matter what. Same would go for Wario Stadium if you hopped over the wall at the start; only way for them to not catch up there was to hop the wall again (and just hop over the wall enough times to finish the track), but I could never do that one. It was like no matter what shortcut you did, they would catch up.
 

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It's called rubber-banding, it's a sort of part of the AI in some racing games where if you're a certain distance away from the CPUs in 2nd or 3rd, the CPUs get a random *** speed boost for no reason and just "catch up" to you. It's the way the CPUs were programmed, it's most evident in Mario Kart 64, where you would consider those 2nd and 3rd place racers your "rivals" because they always manage to catch up and get behind you, where if you make them slip on a banana peel or hit them with an item in general, they get shot back but a few seconds later will spring right back to behind you.

It's even more noticeable in Mario Kart Wii when you have a huge lead.
 

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Rubberbanding lead to some hilarious moments back in the day. I remember when I used to use the Rainbow Road jump, and then sit and watch as the CPUs somehow managed to cover half the track in ten seconds. Utter bull****, but still funny as hell.

Sonic R > Mario Kart ANYTHING.

Fact.
Sonic R has Crazy Taxi. And Tails. I agree.
 

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Crazy Taxi was and still is the ****.

Sonic R is hella legit simply for the soundtrack.

EVERYBODY'S SUPER SONIC RACING.
TRY TO KEEP YOUR FEET RIGHT ON THE GROUUUUND.
WHEN YOU'RE SUPER SONIC RACING.
THERE'S NO TIME TO LOOK AROUUUUND.


So ****ing legit.

That and also tails doll. :V
 

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Crazy Taxi was and still is the ****.

Sonic R is hella legit simply for the soundtrack.

EVERYBODY'S SUPER SONIC RACING.
TRY TO KEEP YOUR FEET RIGHT ON THE GROUUUUND.
WHEN YOU'RE SUPER SONIC RACING.
THERE'S NO TIME TO LOOK AROUUUUND.


So ****ing legit.

That and also tails doll. :V
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

If you're on, then IM me. v:
 

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...I'm just going to ignore Bleyva's statement...for his own good.


Seriously, though, a Brawl+ TF2 night would be pretty cool. A bunch of Brawl+ players picking up TF2 with each other again to show how crappy they are at it. For those of us with mics it'd be an interesting opportunity to get to know each other. Hrrm, it's an idea.
 

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Any competitive Pokemon fans will hopefully get a lulz out of this ladder match I had today on Smogon:

Battle text in white.
My comments in orange.
His in game chat comments in turquoise.

Rules: Ladder Match, Sleep Clause, Freeze Clause, OHKO Clause, Evasion Clause, Species Clause, Strict Damage Clause, Soul Dew Clause
Toxic Torture sent out Electrode (lvl 100 Electrode).
rowtheboat sent out Togekiss (lvl 100 Togekiss ♂).
rowtheboat switched in Jirachi (lvl 100 Jirachi).
Electrode used Taunt.
Jirachi fell for the taunt!

Never would have expected to see a lead Electrode in OU, or Electrode in OU in general. Regardless, I can expect two things from Electrode. 1: Taunt and Explode. 2: Taunt, Rain Dance, and Explode. I can almost guarantee the opening move is Taunt so I won't know his plan based on the first move. Either way, I don't want to leave Togekiss in to take the obvious electric attack on whatever set. My response is to switch in to Jirachi and take the Taunt because he doesn't care about a Taunt.

Electrode used Thunder Wave.
Jirachi is paralysed! It may be unable to move!
Jirachi used Body Slam.
Electrode lost 33% of its health.
Electrode is paralysed! It may be unable to move!

Didn't expect a Thunder Wave. Thunder Wave is just a stupid move when you are a target for ground types. He got lucky that I have no ground types, but it doesn't matter. Jirachi can ignore it. Jirachi's Serene Grace ability gives Body Slam a 60% paralysis rate, and it kicked in here. Electrode is paralyzed, and a bad Pokemon just got even worse.

Electrode used Explosion.
It's not very effective...
Jirachi lost 38% of its health.
Toxic Torture's Electrode fainted.
Jirachi used Iron Head.
But there was no target!
Jirachi's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jirachi restored 6% of its health.

So there was the Explosion. I knew it was coming, but Electrode is a pathetic offensive Pokemon and that barely dented Electrode. I wanted to use Wish to heal the obvious explosion off, but that Taunt stopped me.

Toxic Torture switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ♂).
Swampert used Stealth Rock.
Pointed stones float in the air around the foe's team!
Jirachi used Body Slam.
Swampert lost 13% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
Jirachi's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jirachi restored 6% of its health.

Swampert will be able to KO Jirachi. It's already paralyzed, so my only hope is to paralyze Swampert as well with Body Slam. 60% paralyze rate gives me good odds, and I can take more than one EQ from Swampert even at my current health which will give me a few chances to get it.

Swampert used Earthquake.
It's super effective!
Jirachi lost 51% of its health.
Jirachi used Body Slam.
Swampert lost 13% of its health.
Jirachi's taunt wore off!
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.
Jirachi's leftovers restored its health a little!
Jirachi restored 6% of its health.

****. This one failed to paralyze too. So I can say goodbye to Jirachi. I would switch him out to save him if he wasn't paralyzed but my best move is to just let him go.

Swampert used Waterfall.
A critical hit!
Jirachi lost 29% of its health.
rowtheboat's Jirachi fainted.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.

:( Bye Jirachi.

rowtheboat switched in Umbreon (lvl 100 Umbreon ♂).
Pointed stones dug into Umbreon.
Umbreon lost 12% of its health.

I don't have a direct counter to Swampert, but I know he can be walled by Umbreon. I just hope he isn't running a phaze set, which will stop my Umbreon from setting up a sweeper. The best way to do that is to trap Swampert with Mean Look, reduce his threat level as much as possible and Baton Pass to somebody who can easily set up here. Umbreon is a natural magnet to Pokemon like Scizor, Heracross and Machamp so the first move is to use Confuse Ray to see if he switches.

Toxic Torture switched in Electivire (lvl 100 Electivire ♂).
Umbreon used Confuse Ray.
Electivire became confused!
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

Exactly why I use Confuse Ray. I could potentially trap an Umbreon counter if I used Mean Look first. Electrivire is far from what I would expect, though it has a high attack and most sets carry Cross Chop which will hit Umbreon hard. I have Machamp waiting in my party and he definitely needs help from Umbreon if he wants to sweep. I think this is my best chance to have Umbreon setup a sweeper, so I'm going to take it.

Electivire is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Electivire lost 22% of its health.
Umbreon used Flash.
Electivire's accuracy was lowered.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

This is always a touch choice. Mean Look is an obvious choice because most opponents will risk confusion and stay in to hit Umbreon. On the other hand there is the chance that confusion causes them to switch and I Mean Look something worse. Assuming the worst, I use Flash to further cripple Electrivire if he stays in, and put some hurt on a potential switch in. The fact that he hit himself in the confusion is nice, and flash goes off. Electrivire has quickly become close to useless, and he is the perfect target to set up a sweeper.

Toxic Torture switched in Azelf (lvl 100 Azelf).
Umbreon used Flash.
Azelf's accuracy was lowered.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 0% of its health.

I pushed my luck on this one. I tried another Flash thinking he would keep Electrivire in again. I really should have used Mean Look, but it doesn't matter because he switched Pokemon anyways. I'm mad at myself for not using Mean Look after seeing what he switched in. Sending in a psychic Pokemon on Umbreon would have made his job even easier, but I missed out on a great chance because of a stupid move.

Toxic Torture switched in Swampert (lvl 100 Swampert ♂).
Umbreon used Mean Look.
Swampert was trapped!
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 6% of its health.

If he sent in Azelf he might be stupid enough to keep it in. I'm not going to miss out on another chance, so it's time to Mean Look and trap him. Trapping the opponent, confusing them, and lowering their accuracy is PERFECT setup fodder for a late game sweeper, and its a great use of Umbreon's bulk and support moveset. Sadly he wasn't stupid enough to keep Azelf in. I can definitely work with Swampert though. He won't be able to hit Umbreon nearly hard enough to ruin my setup.

Umbreon used Flash.
Swampert's accuracy was lowered.
Swampert used Earthquake.
Swampert's attack missed!
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 1% of its health.

There's one flash. His Earthquake misses too, so that's one more turn of Flash spam for Umbreon.

Umbreon used Flash.
Swampert's accuracy was lowered.
Swampert used Waterfall.
Umbreon lost 20% of its health.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

Another Flash. That's -2 accuracy and he can't do anything to stop me, other than kill Umbreon. His Waterfall hits despite -2 accuracy, but it does 20% of my HP. It shows that he really invested in defense with his Swampert, so he won't be killing Umbreon anytime soon.

Umbreon used Flash.
Swampert's accuracy was lowered.
Swampert used Waterfall.
Umbreon lost 21% of its health.
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

Another Flash. -3 accuracy, and again he hits me. It sucks to take damage, but Umbreon is doing his job just fine.

Toxic Torture: your a **** sucker

Seems he doesn't like my strategy! I worked so hard to get this to work! How rude! :(

Umbreon used Flash.
Swampert's accuracy was lowered.
Swampert used Waterfall.
Swampert's attack missed!
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

There's -4 accuracy. I could bring him down another 2 levels, but I'm ready to sweep. I'll just confuse him, and Baton Pass to a sweeper.

Umbreon used Confuse Ray.
Swampert became confused!
Swampert is confused!
Swampert used Earthquake.
Swampert's attack missed!
Umbreon's leftovers restored its health a little!
Umbreon restored 6% of its health.

Now he is confused, can't hit the broad side of a barn, and in perfect position to allow my sweeper in.

Umbreon used Baton Pass.
rowtheboat switched in Gyarados (lvl 100 Gyarados ♂).
Gyarados's intimidate cut Swampert's attack!
Pointed stones dug into Gyarados.
Gyarados lost 25% of its health.
Swampert is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Swampert lost 4% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 4% of its health.

Gyarados is in, down to 75% health because of Stealth Rock. Under normal situations, that damage could be fatal but there is no way he is going to hit me. The only thing Swampert can hit Gyarados is with Stone Edge which already has 80% accuracy not counting the -4 accuracy from Umbreon. I have a little chuckle as he hits himself in confusion.

Toxic Torture: dont choke on the **** in your mouth

:( I don't think he likes me.

Gyarados used Dragon Dance.
Gyarados's attack was raised.
Gyarados's speed was raised.
Swampert is confused!
It hurt itself in its confusion!
Swampert lost 5% of its health.
Gyarados's leftovers restored its health a little!
Gyarados restored 6% of its health.
Swampert's leftovers restored its health a little!
Swampert restored 5% of its health.

Stat up time! Give me a few Dragon Dances and nothing will stop me. Again he hits himself in confusion. I'm sure he is having loads of fun.

Toxic Torture has left the room.
rowtheboat wins!
:( He got fed up.
The commentary is there for effect. Basically describing what went through my head throughout the battle.
It's a new team of mine, built around Togekiss and Jirachi. They each have the ability Serene Grace which doubles the chance of a move's effects of happening. If something has a 30% flinch rate, it becomes a 60% flinch rate. 30% paralysis rate becomes 60% and so on. Spread paralysis to the opponent's team, spam flinch moves to lower damage as much as possible, and wreak some havoc.
I have Porygon2 on the team as well who is the best counter in the game to several of the hardest hitting offensive Pokemon in the game. He is a "just in case" Pokemon if something goes wrong.
Umbreon does exactly what it did in that match. Pisses you off, creates a worthless Pokemon with Flash and Confuse Ray, and passes it on to a sweeper.
Machamp and Gyaradose both take advantage of Umbreon's situation to power themselves up and **** some Pokemon.

I LOL'd through that entire match, and maybe some of you will :p
 

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Plum said:
If he sent in Azelf he might be stupid enough to keep it in.
NO U

MINDGMAES

I used to be mediocre at Pokemon...you know...before Garchomp Gen. (AKA OPPOSITE OF BARLW STRAT). GSC and RSE babeh. <_<

Funny how competitive 4th gen. Pokemon is possibly more action-intense than a high-level Barlw match.
 

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goodoldganon;7861449 I hate accuracy lowering stuff and confusion. Confusion is the dumbest status effect ever.[/QUOTE said:
Why do you think I built a team around abusing it?

Half my wins on the ladder with this team come from people quitting mid match because I piss them off too much :p
 

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Any competitive Pokemon fans will hopefully get a lulz out of this ladder match I had today on Smogon:



The commentary is there for effect. Basically describing what went through my head throughout the battle.
It's a new team of mine, built around Togekiss and Jirachi. They each have the ability Serene Grace which doubles the chance of a move's effects of happening. If something has a 30% flinch rate, it becomes a 60% flinch rate. 30% paralysis rate becomes 60% and so on. Spread paralysis to the opponent's team, spam flinch moves to lower damage as much as possible, and wreak some havoc.
I have Porygon2 on the team as well who is the best counter in the game to several of the hardest hitting offensive Pokemon in the game. He is a "just in case" Pokemon if something goes wrong.
Umbreon does exactly what it did in that match. Pisses you off, creates a worthless Pokemon with Flash and Confuse Ray, and passes it on to a sweeper.
Machamp and Gyaradose both take advantage of Umbreon's situation to power themselves up and **** some Pokemon.

I LOL'd through that entire match, and maybe some of you will :p
I lol'd, but probably not for the same reasons you did.

I like the way your umbreon gets shut down by anything with either taunt or sub.

As for your azelf comments... if it carries focus blast, azelf is actually a fairly smart choice to send in against most umbreon, if you can get in on a mean look. One scheme (er... nasty plot) later, and you have yourself a nearly 700 satk monster ready to rip you up, and that's before LO.

Did I mention I played pokemon heavily in adv? DPP is too offensive for my tastes, though I still play occasionally.
 

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I lol'd, but probably not for the same reasons you did.

I like the way your umbreon gets shut down by anything with either taunt or sub.

As for your azelf comments... if it carries focus blast, azelf is actually a fairly smart choice to send in against most umbreon, if you can get in on a mean look. One scheme (er... nasty plot) later, and you have yourself a nearly 700 satk monster ready to rip you up, and that's before LO.

Did I mention I played pokemon heavily in adv? DPP is too offensive for my tastes, though I still play occasionally.
Azelf doesn't learn Focus Blast (surprisingly, because the others in the fast special sweeper category tend to have it) :)

It could have been running Hidden Power Fighting (or Hidden Power Bug) to hit me, but the only Dark type really threatening Azelf is Tyranitar. He can get taken care of by Grass Knot, and that also opens up further coverage like bulky water types, or ground types. So there was a possibility for him hitting Umbreon, but I figured my chances were good enough to setup.

I miss the ADV generation. Stealth Rock has to be the worst addition to competitive Pokemon ever. Spikes and Toxic Spikes are perfectly fine; they take multiple turns of setup to have maximum effect, and many Pokemon can completely avoid them through typing/ability.
But Stealth Rock has overcentralized the metagame, and many potentially amazing Pokemon become useless with Stealth Rock instantly costing them 25% or 50% on switch in. I would love to use a Pokemon like Moltres, Articuno, Charizard, or Yanmega but it's just not something you can do with Stealth Rock taking 50% of their HP guaranteed.
 

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Azelf doesn't learn Focus Blast (surprisingly, because the others in the fast special sweeper category tend to have it) :)
Hm... you're right. I remember using HP:Fight on azelf, but I'd typically go for accuracy over power regardless of whether the poke got FB or not, so I guess I thought that was just another one of those cases. Either way, my point stands about scheme -> hp:fight.

It could have been running Hidden Power Fighting (or Hidden Power Bug) to hit me, but the only Dark type really threatening Azelf is Tyranitar. He can get taken care of by Grass Knot, and that also opens up further coverage like bulky water types, or ground types. So there was a possibility for him hitting Umbreon, but I figured my chances were good enough to setup.
I wouldn't call it a "possibility." I'd call it "almost a guarantee." There's only one azelf set that doesn't run something for coverage, which is the suicide lead set, and even that set would be able to taunt you to force a struggle.

I miss the ADV generation. Stealth Rock has to be the worst addition to competitive Pokemon ever. Spikes and Toxic Spikes are perfectly fine; they take multiple turns of setup to have maximum effect, and many Pokemon can completely avoid them through typing/ability.
But Stealth Rock has overcentralized the metagame, and many potentially amazing Pokemon become useless with Stealth Rock instantly costing them 25% or 50% on switch in. I would love to use a Pokemon like Moltres, Articuno, Charizard, or Yanmega but it's just not something you can do with Stealth Rock taking 50% of their HP guaranteed.
Agreed 110%. Moltres was cool in adv, especially after XD. You could build a team in adv to not care about spikes, and thus not need a spinner, but in dpp, with sr so easy to set up, it's not really a matter of "not needing" a spinner, but rather that it's sorta pointless, especially with the spinners we currently have. All you can do is play a team without too many fliers (or other sr weak pokes). I dunno if smogon is ever planning on doing a suspect test with removing SR from the game, and seeing what pokemon would have to be removed from that metagame to balance it, but it truly does ruin things. Even the offensive teams in DPP run SR, since it's really just free damage and is so easy to set up, where you'd only usually see more defensive teams running spikes in adv.
 

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i love trash talking Pros. xD

(03:14:49 AM) FICTION: i will tell u now
(03:14:56 AM) FICTION: brawl+ wario is just like regular wario with combos
(03:14:58 AM) FICTION: so i **** with him
(03:14:58 AM) FICTION: XD
(03:15:09 AM) ghneko: And?
(03:15:13 AM) FICTION: no point
(03:15:14 AM) FICTION: lol
(03:15:15 AM) ghneko: My Mario > Your Wario
(03:15:17 AM) ghneko: Get some
(03:15:19 AM) FICTION: no way son
(03:15:24 AM) ghneko: ya ya
(03:15:27 AM) FICTION: no no
(03:15:33 AM) ghneko: ***** u mad
(03:15:49 AM) ghneko: Ill MM your Wario in B+ anyday with my Mario
(03:15:56 AM) ghneko: Wifi Room with Sandbag
(03:15:59 AM) ghneko: Got that 60% hitlag
(03:16:03 AM) ghneko: I dare you to dair
(03:16:07 AM) ghneko: get yo *** punished
 

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When I make a combo video I must submit it to a bunch of places of semi-relevance:

GANON HAND

SPREAD IT. SPREAD IT EVERYWHERE! GGGAAAAAANNNNNOOOOONNNNNN!

/innuendo
 

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A lot of the vid is him getting bumped off sides or knocked around. Don't play a lightweight if you don't want that. For christ sakes he uses baby Daisy, the worst character ever, he deserves item ****.
Are you serious?
That's low Nintendo, even for you. I've never heard of such a backass way to desperately add new characters.
 

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It's a mix of wifi and offline. That one where he Wiz Trucks Mario off Smashville into a Side B SD was online. :V
WiFi Johns aren't legit Neko :V
Just say "I got totally ***** in that clip."

There is also the fact that it's a combo video. It's supposed to make the opponent look like total scrubs, and make your character look borked :p
 

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Wifi johns are hella legit, especially as a Marth main.

Im surprised he didnt use the WHOLE clip. He did 3 wiztrucks to a SD on me.

It was SPECTACULAR and we lol'd so hard the match after. I was winning to. xD

I deff got ***** that stock though. Zeon is legit peoples. But I know he aint beatin me offline.

 
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