Fighting Game Discussion

[Teczer0]

EVO 2013 DONATION UPDATE

GG: $1205
SSBM: $13 206.69
SSBB: $165
3S: $65
VF5: $246
Divekick: $577.90
Melty Blood: $40
MLP: $4337
PSAS: $546
DOA5: $1462.69
CvS2: $130
Injustice: $69.95
Skullgirls: $4440
ST: $345
BB: $230
SCV: $407.41
DS3: $115

Does this mean I have enter Melee at Evo if I go?

But really though, thats crazy. Good to see Melee fighting their hearts out.

 

[sakuraZaKi]

There's a lot of time left. Hopefully we haven't expended everything yet.

There are always snipes, lol.

Shoutouts to FGC and Breast Cancer Prevention, though.

 

[Crusayer]

Melee for EVO!

 

[LivewiresXe]

I personally would like to see SG get in kind of (or GG, but that's probably not helping) to possibly get a few more people in for the P4A signups, but that's just me. Either way, raising over $9000 *insert Vegeta here* in a 24 hour period is nothing to sneeze at and regardless of whether Melee gets in or not, Breast Cancer Research is certainly going to be the one who ultimately wins, and I'm fine with that.

That being said, if Melee gets in, I would cross my fingers and hope that some of the Melee players try signing up for other games, even if they're not that good at them just because it's EVO. Conversely, I hope some people would give Melee a chance too. I hope that if Melee gets in and comes out in groves, that a bunch of them will either decide to take a shot at AE2012, or go "hey, MK!", and sign up. Plus, if Melee gets in, I don't know, maybe it'll wind up featured at some Road to EVO events, and will help people in both the Melee and different branches of the FGC open up to other games so everyone benefits. Of course, this is just my "yay, make this good so everyone wins!" optimism talking.

 

[Crusayer]

If SG can manage to defeat melee, they better destroy the attendance with like 100+ entrants at the very least.

Melee would be pretty much guaranteed 200+, especially with Genesis 3 in the next week to provide incentive to travel anyway.

It'd be such a poor display if SG drops 10k in donations only to pull a SFxT or melty level attendance.

 

[-LzR-]

This thread needs more TvC. Shame on you, playing inferior games like every single other fighter out there.

 

[Lythium]

Yeah, you're totally gonna convince people to play a dead game that way. :I

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, you're totally gonna convince people to play a dead game that way. :I

Uhh...worked for GG, 3S, and soon Darkstalkers?

 

[Lythium]

Saying that your game is superior, despite not playing anything else?

 

[LivewiresXe]

Saying that your game is superior, despite not playing anything else?

Umm...err....*shifty eyes* I have to go now.

 

[Minato]

Uhh...worked for GG, 3S, and soon Darkstalkers?

I've been sick all week so my sarcasm detector is broken .

And sad to say, but TvC is one of my least favorite fighters from Capcom. Just not my thing.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

TvC is ***. Everything else da bess.

>_>

Smooth Criminal

 

[Minato]

But TvC's got Giants.

 

[LivewiresXe]

But TvC's got Giants.

But...KOF has Goro Daimon mirrors...

 

[Lythium]

Super Turbo Honda.

Get at me.

 

[VietGeek]

Saying that your game is superior, despite not playing anything else?

i see you caught someone mashing

gave them the 5 red letters

obv

 

[-LzR-]

I've been sick all week so my sarcasm detector is broken .

And sad to say, but TvC is one of my least favorite fighters from Capcom. Just not my thing.

Would you mind explaining why? I'm just curious as I think it's a great example of a successful fighter.

 

[Minato]

Would you mind explaining why? I'm just curious as I think it's a great example of a successful fighter.

The mechanics weren't suited for me. Most of the air dashes were too similar or generic and the weight/physics/combo system of the game felt a little plain (imo). I will also admit I'm not a fan of the giants. It's too difficult to balance them to the point to make them tolerable because of matchups.

However, I did enjoy playing TvC though for the time that I did. I did played CGoH and UAS for awhile. The Tatsunoko cast had pretty cool movesets, more than most of the Capcom characters for sure. Also liked how interesting characters like Volnutt played with his keepaway game and weapon switching rushdown.

UAS did a good job balancing the cast compared to how broken CGoH was (although that was pretty fun because I used Karas). TvC just didn't stand out much to me compared to other Capcom fighters where I'd want to go back to it aside from the roster. For some odd reason, I'd rather play JJBA or even Fate, even if they're broken.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I actually feel that TvC's biggest hurdle to it being more successful is that it was on Wii and not the other 2 consoles.

 

[Lythium]

As well as most of the TvC characters are not recognizable to a North American audience. Plus, Wii sticks are hard to come by.

 

[-LzR-]

Fair points, but pretty much none of them are about the game itself. But I do agree that being on the Wii was a limiting factor. I still haven't got to try an arcade stick...
But yes, I agree the giants are hard to balance without making the broken or just dumb, but I still like them being in the game and it was cool for them to try them. It's a real shame the game died, but I am glad there are people who still play in my area.

 

[LivewiresXe]

In SCR related news, KOFXIII's still on twitch.tv/leveluplive2. Man...I swear that game is amazing to watch when done at a good level.

Also, I believe TTT2 is going to be shown after.

 

[Minato]

Fair points, but pretty much none of them are about the game itself. But I do agree that being on the Wii was a limiting factor. I still haven't got to try an arcade stick...

I guess I lumped all the game stuff in the first paragraph. But I basically am not a fan of long combos, Baroque, and how Mega Crash worked.
Baroque made combos too long and made things safe if you ever had it a sliver of red health. Mega Crash sounds like it would be balanced with the damage and the meter cost, but I don't feel like it is. It's almost like a game of Chicken with it, iirc.

But of course, these are things I didn't like personally. I'm sure other people like them.
Opinions will always be varied for each game's system mechanics.

 

[-LzR-]

Well that's one good thing about fighters, there is one for everyone. I personally believe Baroque and Megacrash are amazing mechanics. They make red health and meter more dynamic, since red health isn't just stuff you want to heal and meter isn't just to be burned for damage. You need to figure out if it's more important to stay alive or deal more damage. And yes Baroque is a crazy powerful mechanic, but this is exactly why you should wait for them to use it before activating mega crash. And mega crash should come in every single fighter out there, of course it should depend on the fighter how much it would cost, but I think Guilty Gears pretty much once per much is too limited.

 

[Lythium]

GG's burst isn't once per match. It refills over time.

Unless you're already dead. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[-LzR-]

I know, but it refills so slow it's basically once per match most of the time.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah...kinda hard to burst when your poor Millia's been turned into mush by a Potemkin punch.

 

[Rutger]

Guilty Gear Bursts are perfect. You will probably get two, maybe three in a match, as long as you play well enough.

It's not like you would need any more, you don't need to worry about 100% combos in that game.

 

[LivewiresXe]

So peeps know, despite being a bit behind, the SCR streams have started again.

 

[-LzR-]

Guilty Gear Bursts are perfect. You will probably get two, maybe three in a match, as long as you play well enough.

It's not like you would need any more, you don't need to worry about 100% combos in that game.

Yeah that's why I said the amount of bursts and their effectiveness should really have a lot to do with the power of those combos. And in TvC most characters can read the megacrash and land an unscaled hyper too. I really like GG bursts as they can be used offensively as well.

 

[Lythium]

SCR Marvel stream is pretty awesome right now.

Shuma anchor!?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Wait, wat!?

Smooth Criminal

 

[Lythium]

It's a thing, apparently.

And he won.

 

[Teczer0]

SCR Marvel stream is pretty awesome right now.

Shuma anchor!?

That last combo was disgusting.

Not even a level three there either and he did like what 850k? O_o

 

[Lythium]

Something like that?

Shuma can do, like, 1.2 million in the corner easily though. You're dead if he touches you in the corner.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Something like that?

Shuma can do, like, 1.2 million in the corner easily though. You're dead if he touches you in the corner.

I know, that stuff was amazing. I'd be going crazy in the stream chat if it wasn't $3.

 

[Minato]

That set with Champ and Apology Man was so good.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Holy crap, that was hype. Lasers, lasers everywhere!

 

[sakuraZaKi]

The reads were so sick.

And that 2 frame Snap Back! I've been swooned~

 

[Teczer0]

That was ****ing ridiculous.

If he takes out Chris G I'm going to go nuts.