Elyssa Xey Hexen
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I want to discuss about something rather odd I saw recently.
A small online tournament was being hosted that needed to fill 8 teams. However, only 15 people showed up. So 7 full teams and one person left over. Not wanting to give anyone one team a "bye", the tournament hoster decided the remaining person could have access to a CPU to play with. Oddly enough that human player and CPU ended up winning the tournament. However, this same human player when playing the other teams 2vs1 with no CPU lost everytime. And the tournament rules were standard SWF ruling. TA on, stage striking, CPing, etc.
I was shocked to hear this and couldn't figure out how a CPU and human player could win a tournament with a CPU as a partner, but not have the skill to take those same human teams in 2vs1.
Trying to figure this out I recently started playing human doubles teams with various CPU lvs and characters as my partner. I found out that with the right lv and combination CPUs can actually take the place of a human player depending upon the skill levels you are dealing with.
I started playing with a lv 1-8 and found I got beat pretty much everytime. Once I started using a CPU lv9 I actually started winning matches. I made another change and started playing with characters that act well as a team leader such as MK and Snake instead of Peach. I was actually winning by a decent margin such as 3-2 stocks left over. I changed the CPU a few times to different characters and further improved my success by picking the right ones.
I think have an explanination of my findings. CPU lv9's ability to avoid attacks by inhuman PSing and reading makes them excellent for tanking ability. If cornered by two human players they can read or PS that one attack that can allow them to get out. They can also handle themselves for short periods of times against a single human player. However, in the long run they usually end up getting beat out by the human players. Which is why a CPU I feel merely acts as a supporting role.
CPUs are there to distract your opponents allowing you to face them one on one. Or, even tag team a single person if you get another offstage and sandwich the other player between you and the CPU. They do need a lot of help from the Human player though to keep them in the battle for a prolonged period of time.
To conclude, with the right strategy you can get a CPU to be a very valuable partner for doubles.This will only work up to a point though. A human team will always have more potiential than human and CPU, but you can get a Human+CPU team to work.
Now, what I was wondering is what everyone else thinks about human and CPU being entered in a tournament? While it is entirely up to the organizer, do you think tournaments should allow CPU+Human double teams? Might this be a rule that is suggested for the standard SWF ruleset to allow or disallow Human+CPU team combinations?
A small online tournament was being hosted that needed to fill 8 teams. However, only 15 people showed up. So 7 full teams and one person left over. Not wanting to give anyone one team a "bye", the tournament hoster decided the remaining person could have access to a CPU to play with. Oddly enough that human player and CPU ended up winning the tournament. However, this same human player when playing the other teams 2vs1 with no CPU lost everytime. And the tournament rules were standard SWF ruling. TA on, stage striking, CPing, etc.
I was shocked to hear this and couldn't figure out how a CPU and human player could win a tournament with a CPU as a partner, but not have the skill to take those same human teams in 2vs1.
Trying to figure this out I recently started playing human doubles teams with various CPU lvs and characters as my partner. I found out that with the right lv and combination CPUs can actually take the place of a human player depending upon the skill levels you are dealing with.
I started playing with a lv 1-8 and found I got beat pretty much everytime. Once I started using a CPU lv9 I actually started winning matches. I made another change and started playing with characters that act well as a team leader such as MK and Snake instead of Peach. I was actually winning by a decent margin such as 3-2 stocks left over. I changed the CPU a few times to different characters and further improved my success by picking the right ones.
I think have an explanination of my findings. CPU lv9's ability to avoid attacks by inhuman PSing and reading makes them excellent for tanking ability. If cornered by two human players they can read or PS that one attack that can allow them to get out. They can also handle themselves for short periods of times against a single human player. However, in the long run they usually end up getting beat out by the human players. Which is why a CPU I feel merely acts as a supporting role.
CPUs are there to distract your opponents allowing you to face them one on one. Or, even tag team a single person if you get another offstage and sandwich the other player between you and the CPU. They do need a lot of help from the Human player though to keep them in the battle for a prolonged period of time.
To conclude, with the right strategy you can get a CPU to be a very valuable partner for doubles.This will only work up to a point though. A human team will always have more potiential than human and CPU, but you can get a Human+CPU team to work.
Now, what I was wondering is what everyone else thinks about human and CPU being entered in a tournament? While it is entirely up to the organizer, do you think tournaments should allow CPU+Human double teams? Might this be a rule that is suggested for the standard SWF ruleset to allow or disallow Human+CPU team combinations?
