Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[XorahnGaia]

Imran and Zhunge haven't said anything afaik

Brush says they don't know

Vergeben's been dead forever



Yeah, I have no idea who this is supposed to be.

Since the original poster said that it's someone that "people say they're credible but they never back them up" they could very well be either Stealth (who's as far as I know gave up on being an actual insider years ago and even when he was he was never that involved) or Liam Robertson (you know, the guy that started the Star Fox Grand Prix rumor among other goofs and even said recently on podcast on his Patreon that Mario + Rabbids 2 wasn't happening)... so I don't think their opinion is worth taking into consideration IF one of them made the claim.

 

[Shroob]

Since the original poster said that it's someone that "people say they're credible but they never back them up" they could very well be either Stealth (who's as far as I know gave up on being an actual insider years ago and even when he was he was never that involved) or Liam Robertson (you know, the guy that started the Star Fox Grand Prix rumor among other goofs and even said recently on podcast on his Patreon that Mario + Rabbids 2 wasn't happening)... so I don't think their opinion is worth taking into consideration IF one of them made the claim.

Can't be Stealth, says he's trying to avoid E3 leaks, so I have a hard time imagining that he'd be leaking it if he's going out of his way to avoid them.


As for Liam, checked his Twitter account, didn't see anything, wish I hadn't checked it.

 

[TheBKFAN]

Welp, E3 season is here once again, and with it comes a new Nintendo Direct to reveal the next Smash DLC fighter. There are plenty of characters who we could be seeing get revealed on the 15th, and since I've yet to throw my predictions out there yet (I haven't been logging in to Smashboards much as of late), I figured there's no time like the present to do so, especially since the chance of a potential leak tends to increase relative to how close we are to said reveal. This post will be separated into several sections, each going over different topics of discussion and breaking down my reasonings for each. If you have any questions for me regarding my predictions, feel free to let me know. So, without further ado, here are my predictions for Fighter Pass 10.

Spoiler: -= Section 1: My Outlook for Fighers Pass 10 =-

Spoiler: -= Section 2: Who I Think it Isn't =-

Spoiler: -= Section 3: Who I Think Is Most Likely =-

I've gotta say... I'm a big fan of the top two characters you're predicting.. I hope you're right.

 

[perfectchaos83]

That was on the dev team tbh. We knew a Square Enix character was coming, but we had no idea as to who. It was thanks to the devs leaving data on the game cart that we knew it'd be ErdrickHero. Yeah, a 2nd Square character did leak, but we didn't know who they were(Until the datamine).

The whole Saga of the SE rep was that Verge said that an SE rep was coming in August 2018.

In September LeakyPandy implied a DQ character would be revealed at that year's VGAs (LeakyPandy isn't super credible, but it is one of the events that fueled the DQ speculation).

In October/November (don't really remember), Verge's "list of 7" was leaked which cited a DQ character, Sephiroth and, I think, Crono as the most cited character.

November/December before release, Jack and Brave were Datamined but kept secret within dataminer circles.

December after Joker reveal was the infamous 5ch Leak which cited Erdrick, Steve, Doomguy and Hayabusa.

January is when the brave datamine became public and the aforementioned 5ch leak was discovered by the western community.

I think there was a lot of smoke for DQ before the datamine went public (personally, I was sold on it being Erdrick/DQ in August after Verge's post.) But Brave was absolutely the nail in the coffin even if there was a substantial sized mob that didn't want it to be true.

 

[Stratos]

Since Rathalos from Monster Hunter is in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as a boss, should come a Monster Hunter as the next DLC newcomer.

 

[Shroob]

Since Rathalos from Monster Hunter is in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as a boss, should come a Monster Hunter as the next DLC newcomer.

I mean, we got the Monster Hunter Miis in the last patch. If we were getting a MonHun, why wouldn't they have saved the Miis?

 

[Stratos]

I mean, we got the Monster Hunter Miis in the last patch. If we were getting a MonHun, why wouldn't they have saved the Miis?

That's right.

 

[LAA9000]

I don't normally cross-post like this (and don't know if it's allowed, sorry if it isn't), but I've released my Nintendo Direct E3 2021 bingo card. Here is a copy-paste from my profile:

With 2 days left until the Nintendo Direct E3 2021, I completed my bingo card for it today:

Spoiler: Image

Some things I'd like to note about it:

• The template comes from ABSahilGagrai on DeviantArt.
• Each prediction was placed randomly via use of Google's random number generator.
• Control freaks, I'm sorry if alignments are off. I judged everything by eye.
• Not all of the predictions on this card are my actual predictions. I've learned to hype responsibly.
• This list mostly focuses on new announcements, which is why I refrained from adding showcases of recently announced titles like Splatoon 3, Pokémon BDSP or Mario + Rabbids 2, as well as being obvious and anticlimactic.
• Similarly, I avoided 'one last thing' and 'mad fans' because they happen every Direct. I would've put one of them in the free space had Smash not been shown at every general Direct since its teaser.
• I didn't add many third-party announcements because most of the big studios have their own presentations around this time, so I stuck to ones that don't and would be likely to show up at a Nintendo Direct (plus I'm not that familiar with many).
• I might do a bingo card for every Nintendo Direct from now on, but if I don't have enough ideas to put on one, I'll likely skip it. Thankfully E3 has given me lots of ideas.
• In case it wasn't obvious enough, 'Microsoft is buying Nintendo' will be a running joke across my bingo cards.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Today's going to have some of the most potentially interesting third party reveals in Square and Sega/Atlus. While the focus on the former's likely to be on their major AAA projects and the rumor mill with the latter has been PC ports for various prominent past games, it would be nice to get some good Nintendo related news by either. Just getting a Final Fantasy I-VI collection and/or a few past Persona games (non even necessarily 5) for Switch would be something at least.

 

[Perkilator]

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This is the approach I take with my fanmade movesets.

(And before you go "but Echo Fighters tho", Sakurai's talking about new characters specifically. Echoes are just a bonus.)

 

[ForsakenM]

I don't normally cross-post like this (and don't know if it's allowed, sorry if it isn't), but I've released my Nintendo Direct E3 2021 bingo card. Here is a copy-paste from my profile:

Learning to hype responsibly just means you won't let yourself get as excited because you can't handle the fall after the rise when you end up wrong.

Imagine gatekeeping yourself from being fired up about a 40min Direct made for E3 after last year's got cancelled with all this amazing **** lined up for it, all because even if it's really great but doesn't tick every personal box you have, you can't deal with the fallout of your own expectations.

This community does some weird-ass ****. Personally, I'm hyped up about a number of things that may or may not happen, and even if none of them happen I will just go 'Welp, wasn't what I wanted, but there was a lot of good stuff here' and more on with my day because there are bigger things to get upset over than video games.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

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This is the approach I take with my fanmade movesets.

(And before you go "but Echo Fighters tho", Sakurai's talking about new characters specifically. Echoes are just a bonus.)

This is how Dante wins, he has a lot of stuff he can do that no other characters can.

 

[Deleted member]

This is how Dante wins, he has a lot of stuff he can do that no other characters can.

And simultaneously breaks the game harder than Bayonetta.

So this is how a balanced metagame ends...with thunderous applause.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

And simultaneously breaks the game harder than Bayonetta.

So this is how a balanced metagame ends...with thunderous applause.

Nah, Dante wouldn't have as good as a recovery as and lacks the 0-to-death potential. Dante launches his aerial opponents straight down after doing an air combo in his own games, Bayonetta doesn't play like that.

 

[Shroob]

Learning to hype responsibly just means you won't let yourself get as excited because you can't handle the fall after the rise when you end up wrong.

Imagine gatekeeping yourself from being fired up about a 40min Direct made for E3 after last year's got cancelled with all this amazing **** lined up for it, all because even if it's really great but doesn't tick every personal box you have, you can't deal with the fallout of your own expectations.

This community does some weird-ass ****. Personally, I'm hyped up about a number of things that may or may not happen, and even if none of them happen I will just go 'Welp, wasn't what I wanted, but there was a lot of good stuff here' and more on with my day because there are bigger things to get upset over than video games.

You realize you yourself are hyping responsibly, right?

All hype responsibly means is to not throw a fit or act like you were entitled to more if something didn't live up to your expectations. If you want to get excited and jump roof to roof screaming like a banshee, feel free, that's not what "hype responsinly" means, and it never has.

I don't know who told you that "hype responsibly" meant that you couldn't be as excited as you want to, because what you described you'll do it literally what hype responsibly is, mate. What you're describing as the thing that you oh-so despise is "Keep your expectations low.", which literally no one is saying that, everyone is very excited for E3. "Hype responsibly" just means to not act like an ass if you don't get what you want in the end, that's literally it. If you wanna go crazy with hype, go for it bro. I know I am.


You've been on this big "**** hype responsibly" crusade, yet you didn't even realize that you were doing it this whole time, according to your own words, because you thought that to hype responsibly meant to never be excited, or at the very least, keep your excitement low, which, it's just not. Hype responsibly does not mean, and has never meant, to not have a hype overload, it means don't throw a ****fit if things don't go your way.

 

[chocolatejr9]

As for Liam, checked his Twitter account, didn't see anything, wish I hadn't checked it.

Let me guess, you saw the Crash controversy?

 

[Shroob]

Let me guess, you saw the Crash controversy?

Honestly all the pointless fighting and **** slinging just made it tedious trying to find E3 topics.

 

[LAA9000]

Learning to hype responsibly just means you won't let yourself get as excited because you can't handle the fall after the rise when you end up wrong.

Imagine gatekeeping yourself from being fired up about a 40min Direct made for E3 after last year's got cancelled with all this amazing **** lined up for it, all because even if it's really great but doesn't tick every personal box you have, you can't deal with the fallout of your own expectations.

This community does some weird-ass ****. Personally, I'm hyped up about a number of things that may or may not happen, and even if none of them happen I will just go 'Welp, wasn't what I wanted, but there was a lot of good stuff here' and more on with my day because there are bigger things to get upset over than video games.

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I'm not saying I deliberately try not to be excited for events like this. I get really excited for Directs - I make bingo cards for them out of excitement. I understand, though, that there is a clear difference between hoping for something and expecting something. I'm hoping for many things in this Direct that I accept might not be shown, like a new 3D Mario, a new F-Zero or any of my most wanted Smash characters making it in. I'm also expecting some things as I'm near-certain they will be shown, like a BotW2 reveal or a new Fire Emblem announcement. What I'm not doing is going in expecting new mainline games from every one of Nintendo's flagship franchises then crying all over social media if they aren't announced, because chances are, they won't be. I'd instead hope for those, while keeping in mind that they might not happen.

I do understand that 'keeping expectations low', 'hyping responsibly' or any other form of excitement check can be demotivating to others. I'm not saying you should too - in fact, you already seem to be good in this regard. I'll try not to let my expectations get in the way of my hopes and tamper my excitement.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

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This is the approach I take with my fanmade movesets.

(And before you go "but Echo Fighters tho", Sakurai's talking about new characters specifically. Echoes are just a bonus.)

What does that mean for Sora’s chances? Shulk basically has form changes in his Monado Arts. Hero has is Down-B magic selections.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

One is allowed to be as hyped or as skeptical about E3 as they want provided they're still respecting others' views and understanding the reasons why another person else might feel differently from them.

I mean I'm somewhat excited for Nintendo's presentation, but as someone who's had maybe one new first party game announcement since the last E3 that they were mega thrilled about (Age of Calamity) and who's been disappointed with how the company's handled some of their B level and under franchises in the Switch era, I'm also not going to expect huge news about my favorite series until I have reason to think otherwise.

I hope the event is great, but tempered expectations and a few doubts about what's realistically going to be shown off are going to be givens among at least some of the fanbase at this point.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Did anyone post this?

This is the approach I take with my fanmade movesets.

(And before you go "but Echo Fighters tho", Sakurai's talking about new characters specifically. Echoes are just a bonus.)

What does that mean for Sora’s chances? Shulk basically has form changes in his Monado Arts. Hero has is Down-B magic selections.

"The year is 30YY. Sora has been added to Super Smash Bros. Super Star Ultra. He has an MP Gauge, a Command Selection mechanic, Flowmotion, Attraction Flows, can change between Forms and use different Keyblades with special transformations.

The character is so overwhelming that Sakurai went ahead and banned him from competitive and online play before the community even had the chance to."




On another note, I have a question for the PSO fans because of the other day: since it's a game where you use avatar characters, would they go with a specific Class, a combination of Classes or just one of the more popular NPCs, should PSO2 get a rep? And how would they represent the game's mechanics?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Only two days away from now. It's gonna be Tuesday as soon as you know it.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Only two days away from now. It's gonna be Tuesday as soon as you know it.

You got me to do this.

 

[Perkilator]

What does that mean for Sora’s chances? Shulk basically has form changes in his Monado Arts. Hero has is Down-B magic selections.

I still think he could stand out above the crowd, hence my moveset for him

 

[Brother AJ]

Im excited for E3, but I've gotten myself to a place where I'm not expecting anyone I really want for Smash. It's a strange place to be. Smash just means so much to me.

 

[Dukefire]

When you have been in the heat for so long, it somewhat feels normal when more smash news is coming.

BTW, if you have seen the newest Mario + Rabbids game trailer, people are starting linking the new rabbid with Pringus Mcdingus's Rosalina.

 

[Geno Boost]

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This is the approach I take with my fanmade movesets.

(And before you go "but Echo Fighters tho", Sakurai's talking about new characters specifically. Echoes are just a bonus.)

There is so much unique moveset for a lot of characters it’s not only that but basically a character such as Can be unique even though no one has thought that they can get that treatment for moveset.
So regarding DLC if the picks based on new gimmicks we still have so much characters that we never know how they will fight but they are on the table probably.
Space invader is good example of someone nobody would expect but can bring new gimmick

 

[TheLamerGamer]

So, E3's almost here (I'm not as excited as I would be because I still have an exam tomorrow - yay), but nothing's been leaked or hinted at. To pass the time a bit, here's a game: the last 2 images with characters on your phone are the next characters.

For me, that leaves:

Spoiler: Final DLC characters

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Do y’all think we’ll at long last get a song-included costume that ISN’T a gunner before dlc ends??

at least a Premium Swordfighter and/or Brawler, one if not the other please

 

[Perkilator]

We're talking about Yuri Lowell in RTC today.

 

[volbound1700]

Sunday might be the worse day for E3. It seems like a lot of people will not tune in on Sundays due to family, church, nice weather, etc. I could be wrong but that seems to be the case. In that situation, I feel bad for SE and Atlas/SEGA. Then again, people can check in any time to watch trailers. That is the beauty of the modern world. So even if you miss the presentation, you can go back and watch it (sometimes it is better to do that from a video quality purpose anyway).

I was very underwhelmed by the Ubisoft presentation. I am more hopeful with SE and Atlas/SEGA.

Do y’all think we’ll at long last get a song-included costume that ISN’T a gunner before dlc ends??

at least a Premium Swordfighter and/or Brawler, one if not the other please

What is interesting is that if you look at base game costumes and some of the earlier ones, there wasn't as many gunners but I definitely can see your point with the DLC. (Also the better costumes, quality-wise, seem to be gunners). It is probably something that Sakurai hasn't even thought about. He is probably just adding IP and putting it in whatever Mii best fits the IP.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

So when does the next E3 begin again today?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So, E3's almost here (I'm not as excited as I would be because I still have an exam tomorrow - yay), but nothing's been leaked or hinted at. To pass the time a bit, here's a game: the last 2 images with characters on your phone are the next characters.

For me, that leaves:

Spoiler: Final DLC characters

OH GOD OH ****

CHAAAAAAAAARGE!

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

So when does the next E3 begin again today?

That's Xbox (combined with Bethesda) and starts at 1pm EST or 10am PST.

So, E3's almost here (I'm not as excited as I would be because I still have an exam tomorrow - yay), but nothing's been leaked or hinted at. To pass the time a bit, here's a game: the last 2 images with characters on your phone are the next characters.

For me, that leaves:

Spoiler: Final DLC characters

That gives me a character that will take us to Brazil and Smash leaks/conspiracy theories.

 

[volbound1700]

So I am really, really not liking Rayman's chances now. Do you guys see Rayman as not happening the way the Ubisoft presentation went down? He was probably a longshot even going into E3.

I feel like Ubisoft missed an opportunity with the new Mario + Rabbids. How much hype would there have been had Rayman been teased at the end of the M + R trailer. I was watching the IGN feed for it and Rayman was referenced every 8-10 lines throughout the presentation. It was clear that most of the Ubisoft fans love him (not sure about overall Gaming community).

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I'm feeling Ubisoft will get a character next game and I'm expecting it to be the Rabbids.

Poor Rayman...Overshadowed by enemies of his.

 

[volbound1700]

Perhaps Bethesda will finally give us details about the new Elder Scrolls game. We can only hope.

I'm feeling Ubisoft will get a character next game and I'm expecting it to be the Rabbids.

Poor Rayman...Overshadowed by enemies of his.

You are probably right .

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Rabbids are literally the Minions of video games.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

The problem with Rayman is that without his direct creators, Ubisoft often has little interest in the franchise due to a perceived lack of profit potential. There's easier money in the Rabbids, hence why they're getting the crossovers while Rayman would be lucky to get a mobile spin-off. When the biggest release of your franchise of the last five years is a fan made remake of the first game (Rayman Redemption) that's not a good sign.

 

[volbound1700]

Rabbids are literally the Minions of video games.

As stated, no reason why Rayman could NOT appear in the new Mario + Rabbid game. It would have been a smart move by Ubisoft. In fact, leaving Rayman out of the first game only hypes it even more if he appears in second game. It literally does NOT make any sense that they didn't do this as the final tease for the game. Very poor marketing/planning.

Then again, Nintendo still hasn't figured out that putting Wario and Waluigi as villains (even minions helping Bowser) in a mainline Mario game would be a win as well.