Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Pillow]

God, I love this animation so much. I really ought to pick up UNIB at one point. I've seen gameplay, and they always manage to make the attacks in it look extremely cool.

If you just want to look cool without having to actually learn a new complex game, he's also in Blazblue Xtag where you can mash buttons to victory.

What is a scythe but a giant sickle?

Harvest Moon time.

Would actually vibe with this so hard. Sakuna is my farmer character of choice still though.

 

[ahemtoday]

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he has a support thread, very few characters have literally nobody supporting them

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Why do people think Crash is so likely?

Because a commercial they saw when they were kids told them he was Mario's rival even though he wasn't and his games sucked.

I do think Fortnite has the better Crossover Roster, simply because it tackles more avenues in terms of media. Smash Has good amount of Gaming Icons, but it's just Gaming Icons.

Which is exactly how I want it.

If Smash had 4th Party characters, I wouldn't buy it. Just like none of those characters got me to buy Fortnite.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

Banned via Administration

yiiiiiiiiiiiikes not a good look

 

[Otoad64]

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

that doesn't mean there isn't anyone who still supports him

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

God, I love this animation so much. I really ought to pick up UNIB at one point. I've seen gameplay, and they always manage to make the attacks in it look extremely cool.

It's pretty great. Every character has dumb stuff. Enkidu has a heavy attack that turns into a command grab when charged. And he can combo off of it.

I will say combo timing can be pretty strict and stuff like holding down a button a couple frames too long can mess up what you're trying to do depending on the character. And the online isn't great, though the developers said they are looking into rollback, so that might get fixed down the line.

 

[Al-kīmiyā']

Just go to tvtropes if you need a list of scythe characters.

 

[Pillow]

yiiiiiiiiiiiikes not a good look

I'd say it's pretty fitting for Earthworm Jim, considering who the series creator is.

 

[ahemtoday]

If you just want to look cool without having to actually learn a new complex game, he's also in Blazblue Xtag where you can mash buttons to victory.

Ah, that's not an issue. My first (and currently only) fighting game was Skullgirls, so my idea of a simplified fighting game is one where I can actually get out of disadvantage.

I hear UNIB has charge characters? Like, Sonic Boom and Flash Kick kind of charge? I definitely like the feeling of holding back during a combo and then hitting forward to cancel into a special. Is that a thing?

 

[TheCJBrine]

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

I remember that dude, he wasn’t very nice if you were a Steve fan. Even came to the Steve thread to crap on us after Banjo & Kazooie’s reveal.

 

[chocolatejr9]

yiiiiiiiiiiiikes not a good look

You should read their final message in that thread. It was... hoo boy, it's not everyday you see something like that...

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I'd say it's pretty fitting for Earthworm Jim, considering who the series creator is.

Oh really, I wonder what he did?

Goes to Wikipedia page.

Made by Clonesbian15

 

[Schnee117]

Ah, that's not an issue. My first (and currently only) fighting game was Skullgirls, so my idea of a simplified fighting game is one where I can actually get out of disadvantage.

I hear UNIB has charge characters? Like, Sonic Boom and Flash Kick kind of charge? I definitely like the feeling of holding back during a combo and then hitting forward to cancel into a special. Is that a thing?

Waldstein and Vatista have charge attacks. Wald is your grappler whilst Vatista is your charge character. She even has ones that entail holding forwards and up as well.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You should read their final message in that thread. It was... hoo boy, it's not everyday you see something like that...

...now that’s what I call a bruh moment

 

[Perkilator]

• Nintendo isn't as chummy with Activision as they have been with Microsoft
• DLC characters need to be more complex

• If they weren't as chummy with each other, we wouldn't have gotten so many Switch ports of Activision games
• Banjo, Byleth, and Pyra/Mythra (and, hell, I'd even say Sephiroth) have pretty straightforward movesets, yet that didn't stop them

 

[ahemtoday]

yiiiiiiiiiiiikes not a good look

I'd say it's pretty fitting for Earthworm Jim, considering who the series creator is.

I remember that dude, he wasn’t very nice if you were a Steve fan.

You should read their final message in that thread. It was... hoo boy, it's not everyday you see something like that...

...now that’s what I call a bruh moment

...Yeah, I was trying to be a little polite about it, but... yeah, I think it was a bit overblown and childish as well.

Waldstein and Vatista have charge attacks. Wald is your grappler whilst Vatista is your charge character. She even has ones that entail holding forwards and up as well.

I hear Vatista's hard... not that that's gonna stop me. So I can charge back, hit forward, do a move, keep holding forward, hit back, do another move? That sounds really fun, honestly.

 

[Technomage]

So on the topic of weapons not repped in Smash, what kinds of weapons are not yet repped in the fighter roster? We have swords, greatswords, grappling hooks, wands, pistols, cannons, hammers, buzzsaws, chainsaws (well, in sword form), drills, shields, bows, bombs/grenades, boomerangs, daggers, rocket hammers, laser/plasma blasters, missile launchers, clubs (including baseball bats), double-ended swords (though the only ones we have can turn into bows and a dual-wielded set of two separated swords), staves (though not quarterstaves), rifles, lightsabers, land mines, shuriken/chakram (and other similar weapons like sawblades), gattling/machine guns (at least as a function of the Mii Gunner's cannon), glaives, axes (including ones that are practically used like tomahawks), whip-swords, flails, bayonets (well, a bird used like a bayonet),and pick axes in the playable roster.

As for weapons not part of the roster, we have vibroblades (used by the Gray Fox), throwing knives (used by Ghirahim), railguns (mounted on Metal Gear REX, which sometimes appears on Shadow Moses Island), quarterstaves (used by Krystal), scythes (Death's Scythe), lances (used by Mii Swordfighters wearing Arthur's armor), and claws (used by Metal Face).

What weapons do we not have yet? We don't have fans, normal spears (unless you count Krystal's staff as such), crossbows, maces, or normal whips (as in whips that aren't flails or whipswords). I also don't think we have darts, either.

 

[SpecterFlower]

I'd argue Joker, Hero, Banjo and Sephiroth were pretty big bombshells too

If banjo's a bombshell every one was a bombshell (cept terry he jut isn't big enough to compete with the rest)

 

[Otoad64]

If banjo's a bombshell every one was a bombshell (cept terry he jut isn't big enough to compete with the rest)

how?

Banjo was one of the most requested characters. ever.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

So on the topic of weapons not repped in Smash, what kinds of weapons are not yet repped in the fighter roster? We have swords, greatswords, grappling hooks, wands, pistols, cannons, hammers, buzzsaws, chainsaws (well, in sword form), drills, shields, bows, bombs/grenades, boomerangs, daggers, rocket hammers, laser/plasma blasters, missile launchers, clubs (including baseball bats), double-ended swords (though the only ones we have can turn into bows and a dual-wielded set of two separated swords), staves (though not quarterstaves), rifles, lightsabers, land mines, shuriken/chakram (and other similar weapons like sawblades), gattling/machine guns (at least as a function of the Mii Gunner's cannon), glaives, axes (including ones that are practically used like tomahawks), whip-swords, flails, bayonets (well, a bird used like a bayonet),and pick axes in the playable roster.

As for weapons not part of the roster, we have vibroblades (used by the Gray Fox), throwing knives (used by Ghirahim), railguns (mounted on Metal Gear REX, which sometimes appears on Shadow Moses Island), quarterstaves (used by Krystal), scythes (Death's Scythe), lances (used by Mii Swordfighters wearing Arthur's armor), and claws (used by Metal Face).

What weapons do we not have yet? We don't have fans, normal spears (unless you count Krystal's staff as such), crossbows, maces, or normal whips (as in whips that aren't flails or whipswords). I also don't think we have darts, either.

Byleth has a spear. I'd like more, but we have one.

 

[Technomage]

Byleth has a spear. I'd like more, but we have one.

Well, when I mentioned glaives, I was referring to that spear (whish is more of glaive).

 

[SpecterFlower]

how?

Banjo was one of the most requested characters. ever.

yeah but, Hero, Byleth and the others (cept for terry) all kind of eclipse him in terms of popularity, Banjo isn't that well known now.

Hero was the biggest of fp1 though by far.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Sooo I was watching the latest Fortnite cinematic trailer when suddenly

Tim-sama I kneel. You're putting the Geno from Super Mario RPG © into Fortnite?
Between this and Peter Griffin joining it's quite clear that Smash got btfo by Fortnite's huge crossover.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

I don't think we have any martial arts weapons. Stuff like tonfas or nunchucks or claw weapons (Wolf's the closest for that).

 

[Dan Quixote]

So on the topic of weapons not repped in Smash, what kinds of weapons are not yet repped in the fighter roster? We have swords, greatswords, grappling hooks, wands, pistols, cannons, hammers, buzzsaws, chainsaws (well, in sword form), drills, shields, bows, bombs/grenades, boomerangs, daggers, rocket hammers, laser/plasma blasters, missile launchers, clubs (including baseball bats), double-ended swords (though the only ones we have can turn into bows and a dual-wielded set of two separated swords), staves (though not quarterstaves), rifles, lightsabers, land mines, shuriken/chakram (and other similar weapons like sawblades), gattling/machine guns (at least as a function of the Mii Gunner's cannon), glaives, axes (including ones that are practically used like tomahawks), whip-swords, flails, bayonets (well, a bird used like a bayonet),and pick axes in the playable roster.

As for weapons not part of the roster, we have vibroblades (used by the Gray Fox), throwing knives (used by Ghirahim), railguns (mounted on Metal Gear REX, which sometimes appears on Shadow Moses Island), quarterstaves (used by Krystal), scythes (Death's Scythe), lances (used by Mii Swordfighters wearing Arthur's armor), and claws (used by Metal Face).

What weapons do we not have yet? We don't have fans, normal spears (unless you count Krystal's staff as such), crossbows, maces, or normal whips (as in whips that aren't flails or whipswords). I also don't think we have darts, either.

Another important question is which major video game protagonists that have a chance of making it into Smash actually have a nonstandard weapon like one of these? Like, I guess Hayabusa could come with kunai, which Greninja uses but doesn't throw. Master Chief would have more conventional firearms. What kind of weapon does Sora's Keyblade count as?

But yeah, sadly most big gaming icons have weapons that are already at least a bit represented in Smash as is.

 

[Technomage]

I don't think we have any martial arts weapons. Stuff like tonfas or nunchucks or claw weapons (Wolf's the closest for that).

I mentioned claws already (like what Metal Face uses). But yeah, we don't have nunchucks or tonfas.

Come to think of it, we don't have hooks, slings, slingshots, kusari-gama, rope darts, or brass knuckles, either (though we do have boxing gloves, which are kinda like brass knuckles).

Another important question is which major video game protagonists that have a chance of making it into Smash actually have a nonstandard weapon like one of these? Like, I guess Hayabusa could come with kunai, which Greninja uses but doesn't throw. Master Chief would have more conventional firearms. What kind of weapon does Sora's Keyblade count as?

But yeah, sadly most big gaming icons have weapons that are already at least a bit represented in Smash as is.

Hmmm, I think Keyblades are more like axes.

 

[PeridotGX]

i'm seeing a lot of side characters and sub-weapons. is this so much to ask for?

 

[RoboFist]

Now I agree that that meme is pretty disingenuous, but I think the overall point that Fortnite is a massive crossover that most other games would kill for is true. I don't think most smash fans would trade what we have for what Fortnite does, but on a grander scale I think Fortnite has a real claim to "biggest crossover ever."

I mean, even in the world of video games, Ultimate was never "the biggest crossover ever" because LEGO Dimensions existed. Maybe it wasn't as beloved as Smash is, but it combined characters from so many different studios, estates, and publishers from all over the multimedia landscape. When you've got characters from movies and etc. in your crossover, hey, you're automatically playing in a different ballpark than Smash.

Same with Fortnite. I have no doubt that they'll accumulate enough characters from all over by the end of this year to get Guinness World Records to officially declare it the biggest multimedia crossover in history or something. They're an enormous multi-plat money-making juggernaut, it's kind of their thing.

But what makes Smash different (at least to my knowledge) is how much third-party characters look, act, and feel like their original source material. I've played a whopping one round of Fortnite and from what I can tell, the guest characters are essentially glorified skins that match the overall feel of every other character in the game i.e. Ryu with a Gun.

Basically, that meme is pretty dumb comparing these two drastically different crossover games, but it's also apparently a really dope time to be a Fortnite fan.

(Maybe an ignorant question, but what exactly does the Venn diagram between "I love Fortnite" and "I love 1991's Terminator 2: Judgement Day" look like?)

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

I mentioned claws already (like what Metal Face uses). But yeah, we don't have nunchucks or tonfas.

Come to think of it, we don't have hooks, slings, slingshots, kusari-gama, rope darts, or brass knuckles, either (though we do have boxing gloves, which are kinda like brass knuckles).

Yeah, I wasn't sure whether brass knuckles even would count, since it's just a tool that helps with the punching.

Villager uses a slingshot for aerials.

My reading comprehension is doing really bad today, sorry about that.

 

[Technomage]

Yeah, I wasn't sure whether brass knuckles even would count, since it's just a tool that helps with the punching.

Villager uses a slingshot for aerial

My reading comprehension is doing really bad today, sorry about that.

Ah, I completely forgot about that slingshot! ^^;

 

[Geno Boost]

You should read their final message in that thread. It was... hoo boy, it's not everyday you see something like that...

Oh damn that was hard to read

 

[WeirdChillFever]

The thing with Crash is that “there’s no such thing as a lock” morphed into “there’s no such thing as a likely character” in the movement that pushes back against community speculation in the name of “abolishing fanrules” and Crash is very symptomatic in that tug-of-war between overrating him for having things going for him and being underrated for being a popular pick for Smash, which somehow had got the reputation of being bad luck.
Of course, Smash speculation is bound to be wrong, and has been spectacularly wrong in the past, but for every Smash 4 K. Rool there’s a Palutena, a Shulk and a Little Mac to prove that being a heavy-hitter in the bowels of character speculation threads isn’t a deconfirmation.

However, and this is where I like to use math, even if Crash has significantly more going for him, there’s a good fifty characters with things going for them too and only two chances left. (My math isn’t very precise)

 

[YoshiandToad]

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

Wow. Just read the post in question. And here I thought the newcomer salt memes were mostly outlandish parody.

 

[Goombaic]

Using the template so kindly provided by DevaAshera earlier, I made one for a Civ rep.

Spoiler: Sid Meier's Smash Representative

Originally I wanted to have the series' icon be an hourglass imposed over a compass rose, but I found myself too inept at logo design. Also I believe Tomyris, who is a Spirit here, would be an equally good fighter candidate.

Getting a Baba Yetu remix in the game alone would be great. Civilization is one of those series I see commonly suggested to be represented via a stage rather than a character, but I heard people say the same about Minecraft and we all saw how that turned out.

Giant Death Robots being novice while Scout is advanced is pretty criminal.

 

[Peripuff]

Hmmm, I think Keyblades are more like axes.

Now that I think about it, you could probably classify Keyblades as staffs. They are more like blunt objects and you can summon magic out of them. A lot of the characters in Kingdom Hearts tend to handle them like swords though.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Wow. Just read the post in question. And here I thought the newcomer salt memes were mostly outlandish parody.

Don't you know that parody is born from reality?

Also, today's Tuesday. Time for THAT debate again: Tourney or Spirit?

 

[ZelDan]

Reads post from Earthworm Jim thread creator

Holy ****, and I thought I wasn't crazy about Steve joining Smash lol.

 

[Sari]

Yeah, but the original owner of the thread sorta, uh, announced their abandonment of Smash entirely, is the issue.

Reminder that this same guy compared Sakurai to a domestic abuser after Steve got in.

Mystical Ninja/Ganbare Goemon - Goemon Team - (Goemon Mii costume. "ONLY $0.75")

Looks real to me. Congrats. Thank you. I was thrilled as hell to get the Tamateboko box in my possossion. Hopefully, they release a 2nd box set someday with the N64, PS1, and DS soundtracks in it. And even though I wouldn't pay a fortune for it, I want to obtain the Mystical Ninja: Starring...

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EDIT: Almost forgot about the time he went on one of my articles just to trash it.

 

[warubyun]

Giant Death Robots being novice while Scout is advanced is pretty criminal.

My rationale behind this is as follows: I didn't notice that the four smallest cards were of different ranks. Had I done so in time, I would've swapped them.

 

[SpecterFlower]

Oh damn that was hard to read

and they even advertised their stuff.