Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[Inferno7]

To folks who say Master Hand should be in, how exactly would he fit?
Would they shrink him down or just make him bonkers OP?

 

[WeirdChillFever]

To folks who say Master Hand should be in, how exactly would he fit?
Would they shrink him down or just make him bonkers OP?

Yeah I’d shrink him down to playable proportions, though he’d still be the biggest character on the roster.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

I'd be down for Master Hand

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

To folks who say Master Hand should be in, how exactly would he fit?
Would they shrink him down or just make him bonkers OP?

easy, make him like he is with the glitch in Melee

this is a joke please don't do that

 

[Gengar84]

I'd be down for Master Hand

This guy is my friend’s most wanted character so Master Hand isn’t too far off.

 

[Dinoman96]

I'm sorry but I really really hate the idea of Master Hand or really any Smash OC being the final character lol

I guess it's just because Smash is supposed to be this big crossover of various Nintendo/gaming IPs and it just feels like a slap in the face to throw that out the window for this game's very last newcomer in favor of Smash fellating itself.

Would rather have the last spot go to like, you know, an all new game series.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I'd be down for Master Hand

Spoiler: You just reminded me of this:

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

I'm sorry but I really really hate the idea of Master Hand or really any Smash OC being the final character lol

I guess it's just because Smash is supposed to be this big crossover of various Nintendo/gaming IPs and it just feels like a slap in the face to throw that out the window for this game's very last newcomer in favor of Smash fellating itself.

Would rather have the last spot go to like, you know, an all new game series.

we can always play as Sandbag in Smash Flash 2 I suppose

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Spoiler: You just reminded me of this:

I will laugh if Rayman is CP11 and his trailer's theme is THAT...
with a sprinkle of references to the iceberg on the Battlefield, iykyk.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Spoiler: You just reminded me of this:

Ironic how they include all the House Leaders and Byleth stabbing each other except Edelgard, who would be the most likely to actually do that in canon.

 

[DarthEnderX]

If we got a new Smash Ballot but for Mii Costumes who would you all request?

We talking most wanteds I would want as Miis if they don't get to be Fighters? Or we talking characters I specifically want to be Miis?


Ryu Hayabusa [Ninja Gaiden] (if not getting as Fighter)
Nightmare [Soul Calibur] (if not getting as Fighter)
Crono [Chrono Trigger] (if not getting as Fighter)
Frog [Chrono Trigger]
Randi [Secret of Mana]
FF1 Fighter [Final Fantasy]
FF1 Ninja [Final Fantasy]
Majima [Yakuza]
Vergil [Devil May Cry]
Kuros [Wizards & Warriors]
The Knight [Hollow Knight]


Bill Rizer/Lance Bean [Contra] (if not getting as Fighters)
Marco/Tarma/Eri/Fio [Metal Slug] (if not getting as Fighters)
Jill/Chris [Resident Evil] (if not getting as Fighters)
Quote [Cave Story]
Jason [Blaster Master]
Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe]


Kunio/Riki [River City] (if not getting as Fighters)
Morrigan [Darkstalkers] (if not getting as Fighter)
Kazuma Kiryu [Yakuza] (if not getting as Fighter)
Viewtiful Joe [Viewtiful Joe] (if not getting as Fighter)
Billy Lee/Jimmy Lee [Double Dragon]
Robo [Chrono Trigger]
FF1 Monk [Final Fantasy]

Mii Mage:
Ashley [WarioWare] (converted from Swordfighter)
Viridi [Kid Icarus] (converted from Swordfighter)
Lip [Panel de Pon] (converted from Swordfighter)
Veronica[Dragon Quest] (converted from Swordfighter)
Aerith [Final Fantasy] (converted from Swordfighter)
Eggplant Wizard [Kid Icarus]
Reimu [Touhou]
FF1 Black Mage [Final Fantasy]
FF1 White Mage [Final Fantasy]
Magus [Chrono Trigger]

 

[Technomage]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

 

[Idon]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

... long way to ask what characters I want.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

Extra as in individual DLC (no pass model, meaning no stages or spirit boards)? I’ll assume maybe one song max if any

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

Instead of telling, I'll just show a picture. It'd be like this, except with the characters who were removed in this picture being here as well.

 

[Technomage]

Extra as in individual DLC (no pass model, meaning no stages or spirit boards)? I’ll assume maybe one song max if any

Yeah, my question only took individual characters into account, but you can still add pass models if you want.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)?

You know.

 

[Inferno7]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

If it's one for picks I personally feel ''missing'' then it would be sorta like this:

Shadow: 2nd Sonic rep and popular request, he's also a poster boy for rivals in videogames

Dante: I mean, he did help inspire Bayo and set the precedent for his genre

Chun-Li: She's the first lady of fighting games and very iconic, get her in

Lara Croft: similar reasons as above

Bomberman: Iconic videogame mascot that got passed on for some reason

Rayman: Another well known platformer that got passed on even though he would please lots of fans

Waluigi: Singlehandedly has the most requests for Ultimate bar maybe Crash, is also prominent in Mario spin-offs and a very charismatic character

Leon or any RE rep: Resident Evil is huge, like incredibly huge, among realizable choices it's probably the most successful franchise that isn't in yet.

Zero is an honorable mention but I don't feel like he's completely necessary

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

I honestly thought it was complete after Banjo and really thought it was complete after Steve. Everything else has been bonus already for me

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I'd never really add Master Hand to the actual roster itself as a full playable character and challenger pack playable in versus, but I'd just take that one short boss battle where you can play as him from WOL and make it's own Stadium like mode to tack onto Multi Man Smash that players could select anytime.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

This is boring, a better question is nonfighter content, which to me are What I'm Made Of, Rashid's theme, Jin and Mokujin costumes, Life Will Change, Overture, Click Clock Wood, Shambhala, God Shattering Star, Black Tar, Uncontrollable, Key We've Lost, Birth of a God, Cannonball, Stimulation, True Love We're Making and Abandoned Memory off the top of my head

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Ya know what would be cool?
An all-female FP

I can make one up rn for fun

• Tracer
• Chun-Li
• Jill Valentine
• Arle Nadja
• Lara Croft
• Carmen Sandiego

Figured talking about the SAME characters is getting a bit to repetitive for me..
Edit: Gwen's got some good song choices, I'd throw in (personally) Leroy Smith's Theme from Tekken 7, Hills and Meadows from DQ IX, and Bowser's Castle from Mario Kart 8.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I'd never really add Master Hand to the actual roster itself as a full playable character and challenger pack playable in versus

I may think Waluigi isn't that suitable for the fact that Nintendo wishes to sell fighter+stage+music+spirit bundles, but at least his home series isn't Smash itself. Seriously what are they supposed to include with a Master Hand Pack? The Melee version of Final Destination?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

Dixie Kong
Sora
Isaac
Yuri Lowell
Rhythm Heaven Rep
Advance Wars Rep
Krystal
Waluigi
Chun-Li
Lara Croft
Impa
Phoenix Wright

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Yeah, my question only took individual characters into account, but you can still add pass models if you want.

For a pass of three characters and three stages:

1. Off the Hook or Octoling if they’re not CP11. If either is, then a LoL character (prefer Ahri, Jinx or Evelynn)
2. Neku (TWEWY)
3. Reimu (Touhou Project) or Phoenix Wright. Either or

and another individual DLC - Elma. No spirit board, no stage, only ONE song (Uncontrollable)

im honestly not asking for much. May add more later if I feel like it

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Honestly I think I'd like getting more echo fighters than newcomers more at this point, not that I'm expecting them

 

[Paraster]

I also find the timing of the Sans costume quite convenient, as it came with Banjo and right before any confirmation for further DLC (more confirmed to come in Terry's presentation and Byleth's presentation showing a six slot FP2). There's just enough wiggle room for negotiations etc. for further Undertale content, who knows if the hype for the Sans costume also had an impact.

Though it's mostly the lack of Undertale spirits that gets me, but we shall see.

I think it's possible (not necessarily likely) that FP2 was originally intended to be 5 fighters like FP1, but Sakurai's meeting with Fox was at just the right time to negotiate an Undertale fighter that could be crammed into FP2 as a "bonus" due to the ease of working with a single rights-holder. The Sans costume was released early because it was finished sooner and Sans is big enough on his own that they knew they could maximize hype be releasing him on his own (not to mention how this could make the UT fighter more of a shock due to assumptions of deconfirmation).

If we got a new Smash Ballot but for Mii Costumes who would you all request?

Assuming none of these could be fighters:

• Quote (Gunner)
• Cadence (Swordfighter)
• Shovel Knight (Swordfighter)
• Neku Sakuraba (I'd want him as a Swordfighter, but he'd probably be a Brawler)
• Zetterburn (Brawler)
• Reimu (Swordfighter)
• Hat Kid (Swordfighter)

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)?

• Quote: I still think we need a proper indie character, and while I think an Undertale rep is more likely, I'd prefer Quote due to Cave Story's "grandfather of indies" status. Reimu could be an alternate pick for an indie with a legacy.
• Bandana Waddle Dee: He'd "complete" the Kirby cast and provide a vector to represent the modern part of the series more.
• Isaac and/or Chibi-Robo: Cult classic Nintendo characters who deserve more of a limelight and would represent the 2000s, a decade that doesn't have much in terms of fighters (especially when looking at franchises instead of individual characters).
• Octoling: More Splatoon 2 plz
• Krystal: More of a recent opinion of mine, and mostly bias, but a staff fighter would be cool and it'd be an excuse to add more music from Assault and Command (WHY DO WE ONLY HAVE LIKE ONE COMMAND SONG).
• Tabuu: It'd be hilarious and probably really fun

Honorable mentions to Geno (he's iconic to many people for being a Smash request, but I doubt he'd get added in the same game where people had to pay for a costume of him even if Sakurai decided he wanted Geno as a fighter right away) and Cadence (Crypt of the NecroDancer deserves content if only because of Cadence of Hyrule, but I honestly think just music would scratch that itch).

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Recent shareholders meeting Q & A.

Nintendo President Quizzed By Shareholders On Switch 'Pro' And Classic Mini Consoles https://t.co/Tk9HeN4hu1 #NintendoSwitch #Nintendo #Industry #Japan pic.twitter.com/F65l9w4qw3

— Nintendo Life (@nintendolife) July 1, 2021

 

[Rie Sonomura]

You know tho

what if they DO in fact pull a Splatoon 2 and out of nowhere announce surprise new content several months to a year after the supposed “end”?

not that I’m expecting it to happen, cuz I’m not. Splatoon 2’s circumstances were for the most part different. But I wouldn’t put it outside the realm of possibility

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

I think it's possible (not necessarily likely) that FP2 was originally intended to be 5 fighters like FP1, but Sakurai's meeting with Fox was at just the right time to negotiate an Undertale fighter that could be crammed into FP2 as a "bonus" due to the ease of working with a single rights-holder. The Sans costume was released early because it was finished sooner and Sans is big enough on his own that they knew they could maximize hype be releasing him on his own (not to mention how this could make the UT fighter more of a shock due to assumptions of deconfirmation).

no please this sounds semi-realistic, don't give me hope

 

[WeirdChillFever]

You know tho

what if they DO in fact pull a Splatoon 2 and out of nowhere announce surprise new content several months to a year after the supposed “end”?

not that I’m expecting it to happen, cuz I’m not. Splatoon 2’s circumstances were for the most part different. But I wouldn’t put it outside the realm of possibility

I could see new Spirit events, tourneys or maybe a DLC stage but I really don’t think it’d be a fighter, more something like the Smattlefield update.

 

[Paraster]

I could see new Spirit Boards, tourneys or maybe a DLC stage but I really don’t think it’d be a fighter, more something like the Smattlefield update.

I don't think many people have given thought to when Spirit Board Events will end. They could continue for a year or two after CP11 for all we know.

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Inb4 the Undertale type situation happens



but the final fighter is Vault Boy, and we get Fallout content

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Inb4 the Undertale type situation happens



but the final fighter is Vault Boy, and we get Fallout content

…but… we have a costume of him already. That’d be like getting Sans long after the costume. I believe the Undertale sitch described was for a not-Sans UT character so you’d have to use a not-Vault Boy Fallout character right?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Ya know what would be cool?
An all-female FP

I can make one up rn for fun

• Tracer
• Chun-Li
• Jill Valentine
• Arle Nadja
• Lara Croft
• Carmen Sandiego

Figured talking about the SAME characters is getting a bit to repetitive for me..
Edit: Gwen's got some good song choices, I'd throw in (personally) Leroy Smith's Theme from Tekken 7, Hills and Meadows from DQ IX, and Bowser's Castle from Mario Kart 8.

I may be the odd girl out but an all female anything would be really boring to me

 

[Inferno7]

Honestly I think I'd like getting more echo fighters than newcomers more at this point, not that I'm expecting them

For me, it depends on who, but I kinda agree with the sentiment. They have so many cool options to go with, and some of them would more hype to me than what most of the DLC fighters have been (Dry Bowser and Galacta Knight specifically, or Shadow if they wanna be real lazy)

 

[Shadowvegeta]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

Agumon
Master Chief
Dr. Eggman
Ayumi
Crash Bandicoot
Nemesis
Ryu Hayabusa
King Boo
Giovanni
Medusa

 

[3BitSaurus]

You know tho

what if they DO in fact pull a Splatoon 2 and out of nowhere announce surprise new content several months to a year after the supposed “end”?

not that I’m expecting it to happen, cuz I’m not. Splatoon 2’s circumstances were for the most part different. But I wouldn’t put it outside the realm of possibility

I think we'll still get new Spirits and Tourneys for a few months after CP11. Afterwards, they'll probably recycle old ones, like the Splatfest reruns.

 

[mynameisBlade]

Here's a question: Let's say Sakurai or Nintendo announces that there will be more DLC fighters after FP2 has concluded. What additions do you think feel missing and should be added as extra DLC (without taking into account a possible limit)? Some of my picks are:

Crash Bandicoot
Rayman
Master Chief
Ryu Hayabusa
Waluigi
A second Sonic character (like Eggman)
Chun-Li
Paper Mario
Sora

Easy.

I'd always force DLC to be 3rd party as its more of a spectacle and definitely more meaningful to most people. Paying MORE MONEY for 1st party content as DLC in a game like Smash is just unacceptable IMHO. DLC for Smash would always be 3rd party if I had my way, and I would always go with picks that without a doubt OBLITERATE as many boundaries and expectations as I could.

Sakurai simply tries way too hard to not be figured out. Surprise really isn't everything. Sometimes you just have to give the people what they want.

 

[PeridotGX]

I was going on about how I was disappointed they didn't make new stages seperate from the DLC fighters, so I made a mockup for if they did. This is what I think they could've done if they released alongside Joker.

Two Sega stages, and one misc. Nintendo one. Snipperclips and Vortex World would obviously have logos, but I didn't want to make one. I'm already working on a Hero version of this.