Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

Mushroomguy12 · Jun 25, 2021

You ain't nothing compared to the real evil.

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7NATOR · Jun 25, 2021

-Since Kazuya has influence from the Devil, I think a Dante Mii Costume might have likely chance of showing up if that's a thing

-Kazuya's DLC Tournament might either be based around Fisting Moves, or being a Villain or something like that

-July/August are likely to not have Smash News

-Until a Swordfighter tourney comes, it's likely the last character is a Swordfighter. One theory could be that they waiting for all Mii Swordfighter costumes to come out before doing it however

-2010 tourney still missing

-If No Indie costumes come, that is sus

-Tekken is likely to have the highest music count in FP2. ARMS and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 added most (if not all) of their music, Minecraft needed all Remixes due to nature of music, and FF7 had some licensing to go through

Tekken seems all Namco owned, and since Tekken Fighting game, their music is built for game like Smash and doesn't need Remixes hypothetically (even though we are getting remixes

-Tekken is the franchise least associated with the Switch as of Right now, as there is no Tekken game on Switch. Smash Bros is the only way to play Tekken on Switch, unless you want to count Pokken

This might also be why Kazuya was revealed at E3, since more of his audience is likely to not be on Nintendo consoles

-Tekken was a Million seller in Japan back in the day (I believe). With that being said, Tekken mostly appeals to other Regions outside Japan, especially as of right now

-While selling the Fighter Pass was likely the priority, selling individual fighters is important too, and this may be especially true after the Byleth incident...more people might be more cautious of Buying FP2 (even if FP2 did sell well as a pass). I'm more optimistic about CP11 than pessimistic

-For Parallel theory, keep in mind that Piranha Plant was likely chosen under much different circumstances than the Actual FP1 and FP2 characters, so adding him to the theory needs to be proceeded with Caution

2006ToyotaTacoma · Jun 25, 2021

Mushroomguy12 said:
You ain't nothing compared to the real evil.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Dangit now I'm just imagining Daisy saying "all that for a drop of blood..."

GilTheGreat19 · Jun 25, 2021

7NATOR said:
-Since Kazuya has influence from the Devil, I think a Dante Mii Costume might have likely chance of showing up if that's a thing

-Kazuya's DLC Tournament might either be based around Fisting Moves, or being a Villain or something like that

-July/August are likely to not have Smash News

-Until a Swordfighter tourney comes, it's likely the last character is a Swordfighter. One theory could be that they waiting for all Mii Swordfighter costumes to come out before doing it however

-2010 tourney still missing

-If No Indie costumes come, that is sus

-Tekken is likely to have the highest music count in FP2. ARMS and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 added most (if not all) of their music, Minecraft needed all Remixes due to nature of music, and FF7 had some licensing to go through

Tekken seems all Namco owned, and since Tekken Fighting game, their music is built for game like Smash and doesn't need Remixes hypothetically (even though we are getting remixes

-Tekken is the franchise least associated with the Switch as of Right now, as there is no Tekken game on Switch. Smash Bros is the only way to play Tekken on Switch, unless you want to count Pokken

This might also be why Kazuya was revealed at E3, since more of his audience is likely to not be on Nintendo consoles

-Tekken was a Million seller in Japan back in the day (I believe). With that being said, Tekken mostly appeals to other Regions outside Japan, especially as of right now

-While selling the Fighter Pass was likely the priority, selling individual fighters is important too, and this may be especially true after the Byleth incident...more people might be more cautious of Buying FP2 (even if FP2 did sell well as a pass). I'm more optimistic about CP11 than pessimistic

-For Parallel theory, keep in mind that Piranha Plant was likely chosen under much different circumstances than the Actual FP1 and FP2 characters, so adding him to the theory needs to be proceeded with Caution

7Nator back here writing novels or something

But for real, always looks forward to hear your theories and thinking! : D

Michael the Spikester · Jun 25, 2021

7NATOR said:
-Since Kazuya has influence from the Devil, I think a Dante Mii Costume might have likely chance of showing up if that's a thing

Just that blank stare on the character that represents video game persona. LMAO.

chocolatejr9 · Jun 25, 2021

Mushroomguy12 said:
You ain't nothing compared to the real evil.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

This is why Daisy got added before Waluigi...

osby · Jun 25, 2021

Michael the Spikester said:
Just that blank stare on the character that represents video game persona. LMAO.

You know Mii costumes are not actually characters themselves, right?

Schnee117 · Jun 25, 2021

7NATOR said:
-Kazuya's DLC Tournament might either be based around Fisting Moves

Phrasing is important

Michael the Spikester · Jun 25, 2021

osby said:
You know Mii costumes are not actually characters themselves, right?

Yes I know but the idea a Mii based on that particular character still gives off that impression.

Swamp Sensei · Jun 25, 2021

And here I thought the only fisting specialist in Smash was Bayonetta.

Eldrake · Jun 25, 2021

SharkLord said:
I have zero context for this but the way the guy's just kinda standing there is really funny to me

It's the ending of Half-Life (technically the screenshot is from Black Mesa but it's the same ending anyway). The guy is G-Man who just gave Gordon Freeman a job offer. You accept it by going through that green orb, which is a portal to... god knows where.
If you wait long enough, he will take it as a refusal to his offer and teleport you to a battle you cannot win.

Evil Trapezium · Jun 25, 2021

GilTheGreat19 said:
Imagine if the last fighter gets a reveal trailer where ALL the other fighters are standing in front of a portal, waiting for the fighter to step out of it with the Smash invitation in hand.

Not the most exciting Cortez trailer I could imagine but hey, it works.

Time to Split!

SNEKeater · Jun 25, 2021

Unrelated to Smash but the demo for NEO The World Ends With You is now available, I've played It for a while and so far it has been really cool

Technomage · Jun 25, 2021

7NATOR said:
-Kazuya's DLC Tournament might either be based around Fisting Moves, or being a Villain or something like that

Schnee117 said:
Phrasing is important

Swamp Sensei said:
And here I thought the only fisting specialist in Smash was Bayonetta.

Are we going to make some Horny Jail jokes next?

Swamp Sensei · Jun 25, 2021

Technomage said:
Are we going to make some Horny Jail jokes next?

I won't bonk if you won't.

Technomage · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
I won't bonk if you won't.

That's fine; I can't feel any pain from the bonk stick, anyway.

Swamp Sensei · Jun 25, 2021

To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

GilTheGreat19 · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

I'm leaning towards two things:
1) Kazuya's gonna bring a little bit from EVERY mainline Tekken game, including Tekken 7, and maybe some TTT stuff
2) He'll also bring along stuff from other Bamco franchises, with SoulCalibur having the best chance of fitting in this category imo.

Will · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

Personally I'm expecting this one.

Mushroomguy12 · Jun 25, 2021

This is Steve's meat all over again.

UltimateCyborgOverlord · Jun 25, 2021

7NATOR said:
-Since Kazuya has influence from the Devil, I think a Dante Mii Costume might have likely chance of showing up if that's a thing

-Kazuya's DLC Tournament might either be based around Fisting Moves, or being a Villain or something like that

-July/August are likely to not have Smash News

-Until a Swordfighter tourney comes, it's likely the last character is a Swordfighter. One theory could be that they waiting for all Mii Swordfighter costumes to come out before doing it however

-2010 tourney still missing

-If No Indie costumes come, that is sus

-Tekken is likely to have the highest music count in FP2. ARMS and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 added most (if not all) of their music, Minecraft needed all Remixes due to nature of music, and FF7 had some licensing to go through

Tekken seems all Namco owned, and since Tekken Fighting game, their music is built for game like Smash and doesn't need Remixes hypothetically (even though we are getting remixes

-Tekken is the franchise least associated with the Switch as of Right now, as there is no Tekken game on Switch. Smash Bros is the only way to play Tekken on Switch, unless you want to count Pokken

This might also be why Kazuya was revealed at E3, since more of his audience is likely to not be on Nintendo consoles

-Tekken was a Million seller in Japan back in the day (I believe). With that being said, Tekken mostly appeals to other Regions outside Japan, especially as of right now

-While selling the Fighter Pass was likely the priority, selling individual fighters is important too, and this may be especially true after the Byleth incident...more people might be more cautious of Buying FP2 (even if FP2 did sell well as a pass). I'm more optimistic about CP11 than pessimistic

-For Parallel theory, keep in mind that Piranha Plant was likely chosen under much different circumstances than the Actual FP1 and FP2 characters, so adding him to the theory needs to be proceeded with Caution

Less fisting, more Shadow

Sonic Channel website updated with this new image, probably a story will come later if the recent updates are anything to go by, what with Sonic and Cream at the Music Plant with Cream not wanting to be treated like a kid, Sonic and Amy's Chaos Emerald related date at Twinkle Park, etc.

https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/enjoy/image/wallpaper_200_shadow_16_pc.png

SKX31 · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

Spitballing ca. 12, and we're probably getting:

We have Kazuya's T2 theme - Emotionless Passion - and T3's character select theme confirmed already.
Jin's T3 theme is a safe guess: partly because it's arguably the classic Tekken track, as a small bonus / in-joke Jin inherited Kazuya's moves until the Tekken staff reworked Jin in 4, Devil Jin in turn inherited T3 Jin's moves while normal Jin proceeded to become the least Mishima in terms of playstyle.
I'm Here Now is the safest track from the T4 / T5 era IMHO, whether we're talking its original incarnation or the T7 remix. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of JACK robots are a background element in the Hazards On Dojo who crash the party in enourmous numbers.
Tekken 6 has Electric Fountain. There's also the yodel-tastic Yodeling in Meadow Hill.
Infinite Azure / Tekken 7's main theme Solitude are also safe guesses: Tekken 7 has become the defining Tekken game, not just because it has had an unrivaled competitive lifespan (it's up to 5 EVOs* when most of the other Tekken games couldn't get to 3) and not just because it's still seeing new content but also since it's AFAIK the best-selling game to date.
At least one track from either Tag or Tag 2. Personally looking at Tag 2's Opening theme.
And of course, who can forget:

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*Late edit: Misremembered, and yeah, separating 5 from 5 DR who got 2 each.

UltimateCyborgOverlord · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

REALLY REALLY WANT "Sparking" from Tekken 5

"I'm HERE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

I'm dooin the beeeeeeeeeeeest I caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan"

Also Mokujin premium Mii costume man, it makes too much sense! Grab a Metal Box to make him Tetsujin

Technomage · Jun 25, 2021

Swamp Sensei said:
To steer away from fisting...

What are some tracks you expect Kazuya to bring, and how many tracks will he bring?

Here's ones I'd like (BTW Since Tekken 5 PSP is the only Tekken game I've played much of, songs from that game are the only ones I'm familiar with):