Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[GoodGrief741]

I think a question that has to be asked is how much did the pandemic have a hand in that?


Because after the Min Min to Steve deal, we jumped right into Sephiroth and Pythra pretty close to one another, and I severely doubt we'll have long to wait for CP10 at this point either.

The plans and schedule for FP2 were announced before the pandemic, so while some characters' releases might have shifted a bit the plan was always to release the six fighters throughout 2 years.

 

[Shroob]

The plans and schedule for FP2 were announced before the pandemic, so while some characters' releases might have shifted a bit the plan was always to release the six fighters throughout 2 years.

Right.


But the question is how were they spread out.


We can already assume that some stuff shifted around(Byleth was likely meant for TGAs, held off til January, Steve would have dropped in September if the blog is anything to go by, held off for Minecon), so the question is how much shifted internally.


Some stuff we can see due to the blog, others, not so much.

 

[perfectchaos83]

(Byleth was likely meant for TGAs

I see no reason to believe this to be the case.

 

[Perkilator]

So


How confident are y'all in a double reveal?



I think it's definitely likely, but I'm still erring on the side of EXTREME caution.

Same here. It could certainly happen, but I'm gonna keep my expectations at one reveal.

Plus, if they DID do a double reveal, the rest of the wait cycle would be nothing but people complaining about their most wanted not getting in (or at least, it'd be worse than some of it is now). This is exactly the reason why I object to revealing every character at once in this case, except this would've been going on even before Min Min would be even released.

 

[subterrestrial]

King Boo? Interesting. Can you tell me why you believe King Boo is a lock?

literally every single 1st party release got a spirit event except Luigi's Mansion 3. AND the 2 year anniversary (halloween) is coming up later this year as the smash dlc comes to a close. plus with how many villains they've added so far its not even a prediction and moreso just connecting the dots. many people think only third parties smash dlc can get revealed at e3 but LM3 itself was revealed at e3...

Fire Emblem 3 Houses also didn't get a spirit event for awhile and we all know how that turned out...

 

[Shroob]

I see no reason to believe this to be the case.

I mean, the fact that the blog skipped a huge chunk of updates around the time of TGAs, and when Byleth came out, they had the exact missing blog entries.


Put 2 and 2 together it reads that at one point Byleth was scheduled to come out in December.

 

[Noipoi]

Right.


But the question is how were they spread out.


We can already assume that some stuff shifted around(Byleth was likely meant for TGAs, held off til January, Steve would have dropped in September if the blog is anything to go by, held off for Minecon), so the question is how much shifted internally.


Some stuff we can see due to the blog, others, not so much.

Using the blog?

****, is this 2018?

 

[GoodGrief741]

Right.


But the question is how were they spread out.


We can already assume that some stuff shifted around(Byleth was likely meant for TGAs, held off til January, Steve would have dropped in September if the blog is anything to go by, held off for Minecon), so the question is how much shifted internally.


Some stuff we can see due to the blog, others, not so much.

I fail to see how that matters? What Trapezium was saying is that they wouldn't stretch out the characters, and I'd say the plans for FP2 kind of disproves that. Shifting a character by one month one way or the other doesn't suddenly change that intent.

 

[SharkLord]

Also, question for the general audience, who or what is Reimu, and why are they speculated to be likely? Genuine question.

Main protagonist of a very difficult game made by a very drunk man that has somehow developed a very dedicated fanbase for an indie in such a niche genre

Extra emphasis on the bit about the very drunk man

I think contact with his work is what drove my speculation style into madness

 

[Lyncario]

Main protagonist of a very difficult game made by a very drunk man that has somehow developed a very dedicated fanbase for an indie in such a niche genre

Extra emphasis on the bit about the very drunk man
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I think contact with his work is what drove my speculation style into madness

Adding to ZUN being very drunk, he once said that he drinks more beer than water. And then there's other kind of alcohols, that he also drinks a lot of.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

In other news...

Look at this totally cute game coming to Steam next year.

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

literally every single 1st party release got a spirit event except Luigi's Mansion 3. AND the 2 year anniversary (halloween) is coming up later this year as the smash dlc comes to a close. plus with how many villains they've added so far its not even a prediction and moreso just connecting the dots. many people think only third parties smash dlc can get revealed at e3 but LM3 itself was revealed at e3...

Fire Emblem 3 Houses also didn't get a spirit event for awhile and we all know how that turned out...

I can see what you’re saying, but I can’t say that it’s “connecting the dots.” A lot of people have set themselves up for disappointment. No problem in being optimistic about a character you want though.
It could happen, but I do think there are others that may be just a smidge ahead in receiving an invitation.

King Boo would definitely be unique, and I love Halloween. It’s my favorite holiday. We’ll see I suppose.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Main protagonist of a very difficult game made by a very drunk man that has somehow developed a very dedicated fanbase for an indie in such a niche genre

Extra emphasis on the bit about the very drunk man

I think contact with his work is what drove my speculation style into madness

When the doctor says you can have ONE glass a day.

 

[CureParfait]

In other news...

Look at this totally cute game coming to Steam next year.

It looks cute, it reminds me of Pokemon with weirder stuff going on.

 

[cashregister9]

Main protagonist of a very difficult game made by a very drunk man that has somehow developed a very dedicated fanbase for an indie in such a niche genre

Extra emphasis on the bit about the very drunk man
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I think contact with his work is what drove my speculation style into madness

Not to mention the Dude drank some Cold ones with Toby Fox and one of the designers behind the game Moon

 

[Ivander]

In other news...

Look at this totally cute game coming to Steam next year.

From the makers of Craftopia

Ah...that explains this game...

I mean, the trailer itself wasn't bad and it's really not a bad concept gameplay-wise...but geez, it takes too much visually from Pokemon. The character at the end even looks like a bootleg Nessa.

 

[SharkLord]

Adding to ZUN being very drunk, he once said that he drinks more beer than water. And then there's other kind of alcohols, that he also drinks a lot of.

Also that on his first trip to the US, he said meals are too big and beer is too small

And I'm pretty sure he's admitted to having been drunk during a decent portion of IM's development

Yeah

 

[Geno Boost]

Not to mention the Dude drank some Cold ones with Toby Fox

the first thing i noticed when i saw this pic is the long nails

 

[Shroob]

Without Earthbound or Touhou, there'd be no Undertale.


You can thank the existence of funni skeleton on these 2 games.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Without Earthbound or Touhou, there'd be no Undertale.


You can thank the existence of funni skeleton on these 2 games.

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Indies do be rising up

 

[chocolatejr9]

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

I thought that was Persona?

 

[Noipoi]

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

YIIK is a gift shut up

 

[SharkLord]

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

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[volbound1700]

I feel like we're going to get a single reveal - I know that the past two E3s have been double reveals, but I can't think that they'd want to reveal everything right now and have nothing Smash-related to hype up for the next 3-6 months. (unless we get a third fighters pass, but so far, they've been pretty clear that this second one is the last one)

They could do a cheap way of doing a double-reveal by revealing one full character and then hinting a franchise for the second character. That way, they get the double-reveal but not do it .

 

[Shroob]

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

Of course we thank Earthbound.


Because without Ness, there'd be no Sans.

 

[subterrestrial]

I can see what you’re saying, but I can’t say that it’s “connecting the dots.” A lot of people have set themselves up for disappointment. No problem in being optimistic about a character you want though.
It could happen, but I do think there are others that may be just a smidge ahead in receiving an invitation.

King Boo would definitely be unique, and I love Halloween. It’s my favorite holiday. We’ll see I suppose.

bruh its literally the only exception to the spirit board thing

 

[SirCamp]

In other news...

Look at this totally cute game coming to Steam next year.

This looks so good and yet I am sitting here wondering why there are fps elements shoehorned in?? Like everything apart from that looks great, but then there random shooting action happening that looks mega out of place lol

 

[SharkLord]

Of course we thank Earthbound.


Because without Ness, there'd be no Sans.

I thought that'd be Steven Universe.

Since, y'know, Steven After Not Surviving

 

[Ivander]

Ok but one of those also gave us YIIK so do we really thank Earthbound?

Resident Evil and Tomb Raider gave us great characters, but they also gave us tank controls, so do we really thank Resident Evil and Tomb Raider?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Sans


I'm sad

 

[DarthEnderX]

Judging by the responses you're getting, it seems I should leave just because the forum will be dead.

I just have a hard time imagining I'll want to keep coming here after 2-3 years of absolutely no news. That sounds like some kinda abusive relationship.

I think they should've leaned more heavily on their first-party lineup and used the budget more effectively on a few single sensible additions, but it is what it is.

And also had a completely different core gameplay mechanic.

Can't relate to this at all lmao, guess I'm just old

Some people I just like listening to them talk. And if it's them talking about a game I love, then I'm all in.

For what it's worth, all of the LPers that I watch are always pairs/groups. Because I enjoy the back and forth interaction. A solo person streaming a game, whose only interaction is with the chat, never interests me.

 

[ahemtoday]

Earthbound really did inspire, like, twenty different games.

To be honest, I'm honestly a little sick of games like that. I get the whole appeal is the creativity as opposed to the medieval-ish fantasy stuff from most other RPGs, but at this point I'm like "put it on the pile", you know?

 

[GilTheGreat19]

Earthbound does also have (at least for me) a super appealing artstyle.

 

[Noipoi]

Earthbound really did inspire, like, twenty different games.

To be honest, I'm honestly a little sick of games like that. I get the whole appeal is the creativity as opposed to the medieval-ish fantasy stuff from most other RPGs, but at this point I'm like "put it on the pile", you know?

RPG’s can only be set in a fantasy realm or contemporary modern day.

I can’t imagine any other settings.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I'm leaning toward a double reveal at the moment but I'm prepared for either. The consensus seems to be "they'd be stupid not to drag the hype out through the rest of the year" but an important factor to consider is that Nintendo is, in fact, very stupid. Especially with handling stuff like DLC.

Problem with the “stupid” argument is that not “dragging out the hype” wouldn’t affect how much profit Nintendo is making off the Fighter Pass. Heck they already have made money off it back when the only character we knew about was a “unhype character” like . And that is what it boils down to, the little to no difference it makes when it comes to profit.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Earthbound does also have (at least for me) a super appealing artstyle.

Ew. That's one of the things I like about EB the least.

RPG’s can only be set in a fantasy realm or contemporary modern day.

I can’t imagine any other settings.

I mean...there's a bunch of sci-fi RPGs.

Or was that sarcasm?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I'm leaning toward a double reveal at the moment but I'm prepared for either. The consensus seems to be "they'd be stupid not to drag the hype out through the rest of the year" but an important factor to consider is that Nintendo is, in fact, very stupid. Especially with handling stuff like DLC.

Even then they could release the final fighter as they did with Banjo who was revealed in June and released in September. So they'd overall still be dragging it out.

 

[Merengue]

Of course we thank Earthbound.


Because without Ness, there'd be no Sans.

And without Porky, there'd be no Everyone is Here! Ridley/******

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Resident Evil and Tomb Raider gave us great characters, but they also gave us tank controls, so do we really thank Resident Evil and Tomb Raider?

Yeah but tank controls aren't objectively awful lmao

I thought that was Persona?

Nah it's blatantly like Earthbound, no balancing time, relationships, etc. Just crap attempts at being wacky

Earthbound really did inspire, like, twenty different games.

To be honest, I'm honestly a little sick of games like that. I get the whole appeal is the creativity as opposed to the medieval-ish fantasy stuff from most other RPGs, but at this point I'm like "put it on the pile", you know?

I'd agree but the same applies to MetroidVanias and that's the good **** right there