Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[BlondeLombax]

Pic of the Day:

pic.twitter.com/6tQ6PPYJH6

— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) June 2, 2021

Laughter
”They think they’e figured out who FP10 and FP11 are...”

I can’t be the only one who thought of that meme, right?

 

[osby]

A part of me still can't help but feel its gonna be Demi-Fiend revealed at E3...Dunno why...

Can't wait for this fandom to bend over backwards trying to prove why a character debuted in 2003 is a shill pick.

 

[N3ON]

Can't wait for this fandom to bend over backwards trying to prove why a character debuted in 2003 is a shill pick.

Wouldn't be that hard, dude just got a remaster. The fanbase has made bigger leaps.

 

[Shroob]

Can't wait for this fandom to bend over backwards trying to prove why a character debuted in 2003 is a shill pick.

And Twitter will forsake Hoes mad in favor of "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED" being everywhere.

 

[ZelDan]

And Twitter will forsake Hoes mad in favor of "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED" being everywhere.

"ONE MORE HOE REJECTED!" could work too.

 

[Shroob]

"ONE MORE HOE REJECTED!" could work too.

I guess pimpin' really ain't easy.

 

[osby]

And Twitter will forsake Hoes mad in favor of "ONE MORE GOD REJECTED" being everywhere.

And then it turns out Demi-fiend is a losing match-up against Palutena.

 

[Shroob]

"The Demi-Fiend's home stage is the Labyrinth of Amala. Throughout the background, the various Fiends that the Demi-Fiend fought to take control of their Menorahs will make their appearance."


Super Smash Brothers Ultimate is now banned in China

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

They helped Microsoft lead the charge and back Sony into a corner on Crossplay.

That's true, and I'm not trying to avoid giving credit where credit is due, but no one had anything to lose from it to begin with. It was a bunch of nervous, money first execs standing around worried that this might cost them money somehow. Either a player moves away from your console to play, or they buy the game on your own console. Nintendo was never going to gain anything going that route. I'd honestly argue that Epic Games put more pressure on all of them than anyone else did, it was Fortnite that did it imo.

But it's also not Nintendo's MO to nickel and dime people. They have a lot of faults, but that's not one. I mean they have paid DLC and paid online now as other companies do, but they also release quite a substantial bit of free DLC, like for AC, Splatoon, ARMS, Kirby, even Smash got free modes. They also don't do microtranscations, outside their mobile stuff - which even that they seemed resistant to.

Their paid online service is... quite different, to say the least. Many would argue its bad, especially those coming off PS or Xbox's. They're still not even close to up-to-par on what should constitute as a paid online service. Free DLC is definitely a good counter argument tho, you are right there.

Scorpion or another MK getting in Smash would be the first time the series has crossed over with Street Fighter. I think that alone makes his inclusion just as big of a deal.

I still wholeheartedly disagree, in that there are a significant amount of people who would buy Smash, hell even a Switch and then Smash, for a chance to be Sora or Master Chief in Smash. I simply do not see that for a MK character.



EDIT TO AVOID DOUBLE POST: Who do you guys follow on youtube for smash speculation? I can't stand Blocked Content anymore.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Want something that'll generate discussion? No worries fam I gotcha.

Crash sure has been busy over the years 🤪 But now he really wants to get things done for his 25th Anniversary with his #Crash25Before25 list that he has put together! What would you want to see Crash get checked off his list? ✅ pic.twitter.com/vjw6XshKCW

— Crash Bandicoot (@CrashBandicoot) June 1, 2021

He's in

 

[Lionfranky]

I am going to put compilation for hint toward Master Chief.

Halo might be coming to Nintendo switch

Halo is a military science fiction media franchise centered on a series of video games managed and developed by 343 Industries, a Division of Xbox Game Studios. Halo was originally developed by Bungie Studios. The series centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens...

nintendosmash.com

He leaked Super Mario Maker 2, BOTW2 and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake. He leaked the date of the Feburary 2019 Direct close to a month in advance, and also leaked Boxboy for the Switch and dates multiple Indie presentations. He isn't the only leaker who hinted MCC port rumor.

I think this was before FP2 was decided. He came back and said that around time FP2 was settled.
Steve was in negotiation for long time. Who knows how similar the process is here?

Xbox head says he’s “open” to Game Pass coming to PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he is “open” to making Xbox Game Pass available on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

www.nme.com

Phil Spencer said he's open to bringing Gamepass to other platforms... yes even Playstation.
At least, both Nintendo and Microsoft declared that they are not competitors to each other anymore.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Jeff Grub was told that everything on Phil Spencer's shelf meant something. That includes Switch.

The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall

— Marvel vs CapNick  (@Shpeshal_Nick) April 10, 2021

While some of his marks were off, he did accurately predict Gearbox acquisition and FF7 remake on PS+. This was his response to Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf.

Microsoft's Game Stack event is starting now and there's a shelf!!! *opens Photoshop to examine the pixels* pic.twitter.com/oahucc1gKG

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) April 20, 2021

Switch appeared during Microsoft's Game Stack event. Microsoft has hinted upcoming announcement with background items. Series S at Phil Spencer's shelf. Indiana Jones skull behind Todd Howard led to Indiana Jones game. Kojima figure leading to Xbox publishing Kojima game (This one is ongoing rumor, but still strong case).

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft." She was primarily deposed about trying to bring xCloud to iOS and more broadly discussed console biz pic.twitter.com/UeTBRaVxmi

— Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo) May 18, 2021

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft."

 

[N3ON]

I am going to put compilation for hint toward Master Chief.

Halo might be coming to Nintendo switch

Halo is a military science fiction media franchise centered on a series of video games managed and developed by 343 Industries, a Division of Xbox Game Studios. Halo was originally developed by Bungie Studios. The series centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens...

nintendosmash.com

View attachment 317504

He leaked Super Mario Maker 2, BOTW2 and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake. He leaked the date of the Feburary 2019 Direct close to a month in advance, and also leaked Boxboy for the Switch and dates multiple Indie presentations. He isn't the only leaker who hinted MCC port rumor.

I think this was before FP2 was decided. He came back and said that around time FP2 was settled.
Steve was in negotiation for long time. Who knows how similar the process is here?

Xbox head says he’s “open” to Game Pass coming to PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he is “open” to making Xbox Game Pass available on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

www.nme.com

Phil Spencer said he's open to bringing Gamepass to other platforms... yes even Playstation.
At least, both Nintendo and Microsoft declared that they are not competitors to each other anymore.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Jeff Grub was told that everything on Phil Spencer's shelf meant something. That includes Switch.

The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall

— Marvel vs CapNick  (@Shpeshal_Nick) April 10, 2021

While some of his marks were off, he did accurately predict Gearbox acquisition and FF7 remake on PS+. This was his response to Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf.

Microsoft's Game Stack event is starting now and there's a shelf!!! *opens Photoshop to examine the pixels* pic.twitter.com/oahucc1gKG

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) April 20, 2021

Switch appeared during Microsoft's Game Stack event. Microsoft has hinted upcoming announcement with background items. Series S at Phil Spencer's shelf. Indiana Jones skull behind Todd Howard led to Indiana Jones game. Kojima figure leading to Xbox publishing Kojima game.

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft." She was primarily deposed about trying to bring xCloud to iOS and more broadly discussed console biz pic.twitter.com/UeTBRaVxmi

— Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo) May 18, 2021

I mean this stuff is basically the main reason Master Chief is still largely entertained even after getting both Banjo and Steve. It just remains to be seen whether any of this is actually for Smash, or is just referring to Halo on Switch and/or continuing collaboration between MS and Nintendo.

I'm surprised you didn't include that Mario pic from the Halo insta though, even with it being pretty circumstantial.

Their paid online service is... quite different, to say the least. Many would argue its bad, especially those coming off PS or Xbox's. They're still not even close to up-to-par on what should constitute as a paid online service. Free DLC is definitely a good counter argument tho, you are right there.

No arguments here that it's an anemic offering for where an online service should be in 2021, but simply having paid online is not commensurate with charging for upres. Also keep in mind it's a third the price of the other two.

 

[Lionfranky]

I mean this stuff is basically the main reason Master Chief is still largely entertained even after getting both Banjo and Steve. It just remains to be seen whether any of this is actually for Smash, or is just referring to Halo on Switch and/or continuing collaboration between MS and Nintendo.

I'm surprised you didn't include that Mario pic from the Halo insta though, even with it being pretty circumstantial.

I didn't include that because Halo instagram account posts fanarts time to time. It's iffy to hint toward anything.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Want something that'll generate discussion? No worries fam I gotcha.

Crash sure has been busy over the years 🤪 But now he really wants to get things done for his 25th Anniversary with his #Crash25Before25 list that he has put together! What would you want to see Crash get checked off his list? ✅ pic.twitter.com/vjw6XshKCW

— Crash Bandicoot (@CrashBandicoot) June 1, 2021

He's in

Tut tut tut... They knew what they were doing there.

 

[Shadowvegeta]

Want something that'll generate discussion? No worries fam I gotcha.

Crash sure has been busy over the years 🤪 But now he really wants to get things done for his 25th Anniversary with his #Crash25Before25 list that he has put together! What would you want to see Crash get checked off his list? ✅ pic.twitter.com/vjw6XshKCW

— Crash Bandicoot (@CrashBandicoot) June 1, 2021

He's in

Looks more like the Rugrats logo so this obviously means the Rugrats reboot is doing a crossover episode with Crash.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I still wholeheartedly disagree, in that there are a significant amount of people who would buy Smash, hell even a Switch and then Smash, for a chance to be Sora or Master Chief in Smash. I simply do not see that for a MK character.

I could still see people doing the same for a MK character. That series is definitely one of the most recognizable fighting game franchises up there with Street Fighter. MK representation would certainly draw attention and a lot of buzz, especially given the source material's gruesome content compared to that of Smash Bros.

Or maybe I'm just misreading your point here.

 

[Idon]

Want something that'll generate discussion? No worries fam I gotcha.

Crash sure has been busy over the years 🤪 But now he really wants to get things done for his 25th Anniversary with his #Crash25Before25 list that he has put together! What would you want to see Crash get checked off his list? ✅ pic.twitter.com/vjw6XshKCW

— Crash Bandicoot (@CrashBandicoot) June 1, 2021

He's in

Look I don't believe in hints... and in most cases it's people stretching on things that were never hints to begin with...

but that is mad sus.

 

[osby]

Want something that'll generate discussion? No worries fam I gotcha.

Crash sure has been busy over the years 🤪 But now he really wants to get things done for his 25th Anniversary with his #Crash25Before25 list that he has put together! What would you want to see Crash get checked off his list? ✅ pic.twitter.com/vjw6XshKCW

— Crash Bandicoot (@CrashBandicoot) June 1, 2021

He's in

A jagged outline you say?

Hype responsibly but I think Joker might be in.

 

[JustKindaBoredUKno]

I am going to put compilation for hint toward Master Chief.

Halo might be coming to Nintendo switch

Halo is a military science fiction media franchise centered on a series of video games managed and developed by 343 Industries, a Division of Xbox Game Studios. Halo was originally developed by Bungie Studios. The series centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens...

nintendosmash.com

View attachment 317504

He leaked Super Mario Maker 2, BOTW2 and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake. He leaked the date of the Feburary 2019 Direct close to a month in advance, and also leaked Boxboy for the Switch and dates multiple Indie presentations. He isn't the only leaker who hinted MCC port rumor.

I think this was before FP2 was decided. He came back and said that around time FP2 was settled.
Steve was in negotiation for long time. Who knows how similar the process is here?

Xbox head says he’s “open” to Game Pass coming to PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he is “open” to making Xbox Game Pass available on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

www.nme.com

Phil Spencer said he's open to bringing Gamepass to other platforms... yes even Playstation.
At least, both Nintendo and Microsoft declared that they are not competitors to each other anymore.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Jeff Grub was told that everything on Phil Spencer's shelf meant something. That includes Switch.

The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall

— Marvel vs CapNick  (@Shpeshal_Nick) April 10, 2021

While some of his marks were off, he did accurately predict Gearbox acquisition and FF7 remake on PS+. This was his response to Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf.

Microsoft's Game Stack event is starting now and there's a shelf!!! *opens Photoshop to examine the pixels* pic.twitter.com/oahucc1gKG

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) April 20, 2021

Switch appeared during Microsoft's Game Stack event. Microsoft has hinted upcoming announcement with background items. Series S at Phil Spencer's shelf. Indiana Jones skull behind Todd Howard led to Indiana Jones game. Kojima figure leading to Xbox publishing Kojima game (This one is ongoing rumor, but still strong case).

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft." She was primarily deposed about trying to bring xCloud to iOS and more broadly discussed console biz pic.twitter.com/UeTBRaVxmi

— Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo) May 18, 2021

I'd never be so naive to say "its gotta be Chief" but I am willing to say its gotta be now or never. Problem is, a lot of this could end up being about Game Pass on Switch alone and nothing else. My fingers are very crossed though, to say the least.

I could still see people doing the same for a MK character. That series is definitely one of the most recognizable fighting game franchises up there with Street Fighter. MK representation would certainly draw attention and a lot of buzz, especially given the source material's gruesome content compared to that of Smash Bros.

Or maybe I'm just misreading your point here.

I'm not saying that there isn't anyone out there who wouldn't, its a major franchise with a lot of major fans. It would be a legitimately good and hype inclusion. I just don't have the impression that the internet as whole would react anywhere near the same scale as MC or Sora.

 

[Nekoo]

You really think that Nintendo would allow anyone to hype or be sus about their character being in smash?

That's a big coincidence at best.

 

[perfectchaos83]

I am going to put compilation for hint toward Master Chief.

Halo might be coming to Nintendo switch

Halo is a military science fiction media franchise centered on a series of video games managed and developed by 343 Industries, a Division of Xbox Game Studios. Halo was originally developed by Bungie Studios. The series centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens...

nintendosmash.com

View attachment 317504

He leaked Super Mario Maker 2, BOTW2 and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake. He leaked the date of the Feburary 2019 Direct close to a month in advance, and also leaked Boxboy for the Switch and dates multiple Indie presentations. He isn't the only leaker who hinted MCC port rumor.

I think this was before FP2 was decided. He came back and said that around time FP2 was settled.
Steve was in negotiation for long time. Who knows how similar the process is here?

Xbox head says he’s “open” to Game Pass coming to PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he is “open” to making Xbox Game Pass available on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

www.nme.com

Phil Spencer said he's open to bringing Gamepass to other platforms... yes even Playstation.
At least, both Nintendo and Microsoft declared that they are not competitors to each other anymore.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Jeff Grub was told that everything on Phil Spencer's shelf meant something. That includes Switch.

The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall

— Marvel vs CapNick  (@Shpeshal_Nick) April 10, 2021

While some of his marks were off, he did accurately predict Gearbox acquisition and FF7 remake on PS+. This was his response to Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf.

Microsoft's Game Stack event is starting now and there's a shelf!!! *opens Photoshop to examine the pixels* pic.twitter.com/oahucc1gKG

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) April 20, 2021

Switch appeared during Microsoft's Game Stack event. Microsoft has hinted upcoming announcement with background items. Series S at Phil Spencer's shelf. Indiana Jones skull behind Todd Howard led to Indiana Jones game. Kojima figure leading to Xbox publishing Kojima game (This one is ongoing rumor, but still strong case).

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft." She was primarily deposed about trying to bring xCloud to iOS and more broadly discussed console biz pic.twitter.com/UeTBRaVxmi

— Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo) May 18, 2021

No matter how close Nintendo and Microsoft are, they are not obliged to give Microsoft a character especially since they already have 2. I also very highly doubt that Nintendo uses Smash characters as any sort of bargaining chip to do business with anyone.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Scorpion or another MK getting in Smash would be the first time the series has crossed over with Street Fighter. I think that alone makes his inclusion just as big of a deal.

I mean...to 40-year-olds maybe. That's not exactly a hot rivalry these days.

A part of me still can't help but feel its gonna be Demi-Fiend revealed at E3...Dunno why...

Personally, I don't think any franchise is going to get 2 new Fighters in Ultimate.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I am going to put compilation for hint toward Master Chief.

Halo might be coming to Nintendo switch

Halo is a military science fiction media franchise centered on a series of video games managed and developed by 343 Industries, a Division of Xbox Game Studios. Halo was originally developed by Bungie Studios. The series centers on an interstellar war between humanity and an alliance of aliens...

nintendosmash.com

View attachment 317504

He leaked Super Mario Maker 2, BOTW2 and The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Remake. He leaked the date of the Feburary 2019 Direct close to a month in advance, and also leaked Boxboy for the Switch and dates multiple Indie presentations. He isn't the only leaker who hinted MCC port rumor.

I think this was before FP2 was decided. He came back and said that around time FP2 was settled.
Steve was in negotiation for long time. Who knows how similar the process is here?

Xbox head says he’s “open” to Game Pass coming to PlayStation and Nintendo

Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he is “open” to making Xbox Game Pass available on PlayStation and Nintendo consoles.

www.nme.com

Phil Spencer said he's open to bringing Gamepass to other platforms... yes even Playstation.
At least, both Nintendo and Microsoft declared that they are not competitors to each other anymore.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

Jeff Grub was told that everything on Phil Spencer's shelf meant something. That includes Switch.

The cat seems to be out of the bag on Nintendo and Xbox. You'll hear more in the fall

— Marvel vs CapNick  (@Shpeshal_Nick) April 10, 2021

While some of his marks were off, he did accurately predict Gearbox acquisition and FF7 remake on PS+. This was his response to Switch on Phil Spencer's shelf.

Microsoft's Game Stack event is starting now and there's a shelf!!! *opens Photoshop to examine the pixels* pic.twitter.com/oahucc1gKG

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) April 20, 2021

Switch appeared during Microsoft's Game Stack event. Microsoft has hinted upcoming announcement with background items. Series S at Phil Spencer's shelf. Indiana Jones skull behind Todd Howard led to Indiana Jones game. Kojima figure leading to Xbox publishing Kojima game (This one is ongoing rumor, but still strong case).

Nintendo says these portions of an Xbox biz dev exec's deposition in EpicvApple "reflect...competitively sensitive information about negotiations between Nintendo and Microsoft." She was primarily deposed about trying to bring xCloud to iOS and more broadly discussed console biz pic.twitter.com/UeTBRaVxmi

— Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo) May 18, 2021

While Nintendo does have Banjo & Kazooie and Steve, It's been proven time and time again that a healthy relationship with another company does not always result in a character. You have Ubisoft who have made Mario and rabbids, put a lot of effort into the Wii U and even made a Rayman model specifically for Smash but all he got was a trophy, then some spirits, Koei Tecmo who have worked on two hyrule warriors games, helped out with Fire Emblem Three Houses which resulted in them just getting a Fatal Frame assist trophy and even Bandai Namco who's only character is Pac-Man and he only got in as a request from Shigeru Miyamoto despite the company working on Smash Bros.

As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo already got what they wanted with Steve. Banjo & Kazooie were added because Phil Spencer is a massive legend and he also talked about Banjo & Kazooie in Smash before they appeared, even doubling down on wanting to see them in Smash. I don't think I've seen much of Master Chief in Smash talk from Phil Spencer other than a "Level your expectations" comment but hey, what do I know?

I know you're not saying that Master Chief is a lock and what I've written up implies that you are but I'm too lazy to change it.

 

[Shroob]

I mean...to 40-year-olds maybe. That's not exactly a hot rivalry these days.

Personally, I don't think any franchise is going to get 2 new Fighters in Ultimate.

Do you mean company or?

Because Persona in Smash is listed as Persona 5.

Likewise, Demi Fiend would be his own thing.


Like, the Persona franchise may be a spin-off of SMT, but it hasn't bore the SMT name in a long time, even Persona 4 Golden removed the SMT from its name. Like, it's only called "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona" in the west iirc, in Japan, they've been separate since... well the franchise's start at the first Persona game. They're two series from the same developers that share a lot of things in common, but they're entirely different franchises in every way.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Do you mean company or?

No, I mean franchise. Persona and SMT are different subseries, but they're both part of the MegaTen franchise. The same way Yoshi's Island is a different subseries than SMB, but they're both part of the Mario franchise.

They're two series from the same developers that share a lot of things in common, but they're entirely different franchises in every way.

Except in the actual, literal, way.

 

[Shroob]

No, I mean franchise. Persona and SMT are different subseries, but they're both part of the MegaTen franchise. The same way Yoshi's Island is a different subseries than SMB, but they're both part of the Mario franchise.

On the flipside though, it's strange as hell that Atlus' own mascot isn't anywhere to be found at all, be it in Joker's pass or a Spirit.

Could very well be saving a Jack Frost spirit for a SMTV spirit event but who knows.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

On the flipside though, it's strange as hell that Atlus' own mascot isn't anywhere to be found at all, be it in Joker's pass or a Spirit.

Could very well be saving a Jack Frost spirit for a SMTV spirit event but who knows.

I doubt they saved a spirit for an event that the dev team knew would be at least a year or two away back when making Joker's content

 

[osby]

On the flipside though, it's strange as hell that Atlus' own mascot isn't anywhere to be found at all, be it in Joker's pass or a Spirit.

Could very well be saving a Jack Frost spirit for a SMTV spirit event but who knows.

Joker's Spirit Board didn't have any exclusive Spirits for any Persona, Jack Frost isn't an exception.

 

[Nekoo]

Wasn't the SMT/ MegaTen series thingy for Persona was only a west thing?

 

[osby]

Wasn't the SMT/ MegaTen series thingy for Persona was only a west thing?

Persona never had anything to do with SMT, branding-wise, in Japan. It was always called just Persona.

Persona is a part of a larger MegaTen "series". But so is SMT itself. And Devil Summoner. And Digital Devil Saga. And Devil Survivor. You get the idea. ATLUS West used to group most of these under one umbrella but the people who make the games more or less consider these separate franchises.

 

[Opossum]

Joker disconfirmed Demi-Fiend the same way King K. Rool disconfirmed Piranha Plant.

 

[Perkilator]

Which character should #SmashBros add next? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/BVszEwj51M

— Toad’s Nintendo News (@MailToadINTEL) June 1, 2021

Creeper over Crash? Really?

Ah well, I'll just go with Sora and Eggman.

 

[TheLamerGamer]

For the Persona / SMT thing, they're different series, but are connected. The first game in the series was known as "Megami Ibunroku Persona" in Japan, the same as the first Devil Survivor game. This is different from the Devil Summoner series, where the first game was specifically "Shin Megami Tensei Devil Summoner".

At first, Persona was just considered part of "Megami Tensei", like Shin Megami Tensei, Megami Tensei, Majin Tensei, Digital Devil Saga, etc.

But in their most recent financial reports and stuff, Persona is listed as separate from the rest of Megami Tensei, and in smash the content is exclusively (modern) Persona, with no content from the rest of Megaten.

Basically, Demi-Fiend would be from a new series as far as smash is concerned, just like Mario isn't from Donkey Kong or something.

 

[Perkilator]

Persona is basically an M-rated Kingdom Hearts; it's a completely separate series from what it's based on (in the latter's case, Final Fantasy), but there's still plenty of things it borrows from that bigger series.

 

[zeldasmash]

Which character should #SmashBros add next? 🤔 pic.twitter.com/BVszEwj51M

— Toad’s Nintendo News (@MailToadINTEL) June 1, 2021

Creeper over Crash? Really?

Ah well, I'll just go with Sora and Eggman.

Chief and Eggman. Though I have no idea why the Creeper is there over Crash or even Dante.

 

[ROBnWatch]

Is this a hint our next DLC fighter will wear a hat?

Hat Kid where you at?

 

[TheLamerGamer]

Persona is basically an M-rated Kingdom Hearts; it's a completely separate series from what it's based on (in the latter's case, Final Fantasy), but there's still plenty of things it borrows from that bigger series.

Yeah, this describes it really well. It's based on another series, and has cameos from the main series and other subseries (namely SMT if... And Devil Summoner), but is still entirely its own thing.

I doubt it would matter that much anyway, if they want to add Demi-Fiend, they'll add him.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

So you’re saying Tsubasa has a chance?

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

BeiNg a sora and KHs fan is pain because you are always talked down by people who think they know more then you the second you say you want sora in smash

 

[PeridotGX]

I had a dream where the final DLC fighter was revealed to be a composite Team Sonic Racing rep. The default character was Tails, with Shadow, Rogue, and Knuckles as alts. They were all in small, Mario Kart-like Karts.