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Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

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Garteam said:
Purple and yellow chairs exist in the background of a Smash Direct
Smashboards: That's bull****. Cryptic hints aren't going to be given for Smash characters.

Black, spiky oval exists in the background of an intern's social media post
Smashboards:
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It's okay when Crash Bandicoot does it.
 
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Professor Pumpkaboo said:
Beig a sora and KHs fan is pain because you are always talked down by people who think they know more then you the second you say you want sora in smash
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The best is the "KH professional" who says that Sora without Disney isn't KH, when there's more games and bosses where he's fighting without Disney characters than with.

Always a pleasure during the past 3 years.
 
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Rather than specific characters, are there any archetypes, either flavorful or from a gameplay perspective that you feel Smash is still lacking and would like to see more of? For example, I’d love to see more ice element users and polearm users. We also don’t really have any pirates unless you count Ridley or K. Rool. I think it would also be cool to get a female villain.
 
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There's just some people who can't accept that Geno is dead in the water at this point. Why do they keep trying at this point? It's pathetic.
 
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The best is the "KH professional" who says that Sora without Disney isn't KH, when there's more games and bosses where he's fighting without Disney characters than with.

Always a pleasure during the past 3 years.
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You say that, but I'd place money on Sakurai being one of those 'KH Professionals' and that being a predominant reason from the man himself why Sora wasn't chosen. I do think its wrong to belittle those who truly don't feel it'd be aptly represented without Disney iconography, so I don't think looking at them like they're a problem is going to help things.

In the end, none of us will ever know the truth unless Sakurai does an AMA and answers the question directly, but because we can't count on that happening, its probably best to consider it a matter of 'agree to disagree' amongst the split consensus and just drop the KH discussion altogether.
 
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Perkilator said:
Creeper over Crash? Really?

Ah well, I'll just go with Sora and Eggman.
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Lol. Yea, Crash's absence is really apparent. From this group I'd have to go with MC and Eggman.
Nekoo said:
The best is the "KH professional" who says that Sora without Disney isn't KH, when there's more games and bosses where he's fighting without Disney characters than with.

Always a pleasure during the past 3 years.
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I'm certainly no expert, but KH without Disney content would feel quite hollow to me. It's the reason I was drawn to the series in the first place, and I know that's true for a lot of people. If Sora does make it in, I'm hoping Sakurai will make an exception for non-video game content just this once.
 
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Tuesday is a day I’m usually not scheduled to work, so fingers crossed I’ll be able to watch it live like I did with my brother in 2019.

it’s no biggie if I am scheduled that day, I’ll just get the highlights after my shift.
 
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You say that, but I'd place money on Sakurai being one of those 'KH Professionals' and that being a predominant reason from the man himself why Sora wasn't chosen. I do think its wrong to belittle those who truly don't feel it'd be aptly represented without Disney iconography, so I don't think looking at them like they're a problem is going to help things.

In the end, none of us will ever know the truth unless Sakurai does an AMA and answers the question directly, but because we can't count on that happening, its probably best to consider it a matter of 'agree to disagree' amongst the split consensus and just drop the KH discussion altogether.
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No, we should t just drop KH discussion altogether because this topic can surely be talked about respectfully and dropping it cold does nothing but sadly, it mostly ends with people telling us KH fans that "KH isnt KH without Disney" when we know full well what makes KH well... KH
 
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Sora’s the perfect storm in terms of factor considerations in character speculation. A fighter from a third party that has a lot of competition in its IP’s, originating from a company that’s been tricky to deal with as far as Smash, and is associated with elementals from a non video game corporation that is its own ball of wax.

Essentially Sora demands a lot of unknown guesswork.
 
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Professor Pumpkaboo said:
No, we should t just drop KH discussion altogether because this topic can surely be talked about respectfully and dropping it cold does nothing but sadly, it mostly ends with people telling us KH fans that "KH isnt KH without Disney" when we know full well what makes KH well... KH
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Both views are valid.

What's not valid is belittling others, which happens where more often than it should as is.

People got into the series in different ways, and there's nothing wrong with that and all. I honestly find the Disney elements some of the coolest bits myself. I'd prefer them with Sora if he were to get in. Does it make it realistic? Maybe. We don't know how cameos are particularly looked at comparable to outright playable. All the non-game cameos/references were due to at least hard-related to a game series in one way or another, or at the very least still are Nintendo-owned in cases of characters who don't strictly debut in a game(like Lucario and R.O.B.). But, well, it's licensing. Of course Nintendo characters/references aren't an issue in comparison to any other third party.
 
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All this talk about Mortal Kombat, from both yesterday and today, has gotten me interested in Scorpion joining Smash, even more due to watching quite a handful of YT vids on the game. 😎

That brings me to an idea/question: Since Scorpion is known for exposing his skeleton (and I don't mean just removing the skin, flesh, and organs from his head as part of his fatality) through some kind of ninja magic or something (and because the recent MK games have a feature of X-ray shots of characters), should Scorpion have a special death animation (with the same conditions as Terry) where he gets an X-ray of his bones breaking before his corpse explodes? What about other instances of him getting an x-ray from electric attacks?
 
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The next fighter(s)? are soon to be upon us! And if there is 2 reveals and no 3rd fighter pass (which I think there isn't) speculation will be over for Ultimate. What a long, crazy ride. I've gotten some of my most wanteds in at this point, so I'm happy to sit back and see whoever joins the fight. Good luck to anyone still hoping for their faves!
 
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Gengar84 said:
Rather than specific characters, are there any archetypes, either flavorful or from a gameplay perspective that you feel Smash is still lacking and would like to see more of? For example, I’d love to see more ice element users and polearm users. We also don’t really have any pirates unless you count Ridley or K. Rool. I think it would also be cool to get a female villain.
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Hmmm let's see... I'd be interested in seeing vibroweapon-users, more non-human-looking characters (though I am okay with them having humanoid body structures), more scientists, more femboys (as well as some transwomen and male crossdressers), a character that specializes in crushing zoners, and a few more gritty realistic Western characters.
 
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I'm quite curious on what leaks have successfully predicted the 15th and the lack of Nintendo Switch Pro to see if we could make guesses on whether they're real or fake.
 
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Technomage said:
Hmmm let's see... I'd be interested in seeing vibroweapon-users, more non-human-looking characters (though I am okay with them having humanoid body structures), more scientists, more femboys (as well as some transwomen and male crossdressers), a character that specializes in crushing zoners, and a few more gritty realistic Western characters.
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Yeah, I would love more nonhuman characters too. It’s one of the main reasons I always push for a Blizzard character like Illidan or Diablo. On top of that, the Battletoads are in my top three most wanted characters.
 
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SonicSmasher1 said:
Nintendo E3 news is here, guys!

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I was hoping for it to be the first day of E3 officially, but good to see we finally have a confirmed date, at least!
 
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I guess since we're on the topic of KH, here's my over-ambitious song list for if Sora got in!
  1. Simple and Clean ~Orchestra~
  2. Dearly Beloved
  3. Dive Into the Heart / Destati
  4. Bustin’ Up on the Beach
  5. Destiny’s Force
  6. Shrouding Dark Cloud ~Gigas Blast~
  7. Squirming Evil
  8. Hand in Hand
  9. Blast Away! ~Gummi Ship Medley~
  10. The Deep End
  11. Scherzo di Notte / Black Garden
  12. Forze del Male
  13. Disappeared
  14. Another Side
  15. The 13th Struggle
  16. Sinister Sundown / Working Together
  17. Revenge of Chaos
  18. Sanctuary ~Orchestra~
  19. Tension Rising ~Reaper’s Revenge~
  20. Desire for All That is Lost
  21. Vim and Vigor
  22. The Encounter
  23. The 13th Dilemma
  24. Sinister Shadows
  25. A Fight to the Death
  26. Darkness of the Unknown
  27. The 13th Reflection
  28. The Other Promise
  29. Rage Awakened
  30. Fate of the Unknown
  31. Lord of the Castle
  32. Fight and Away
  33. Critical Drive
  34. Vector to the Heavens
  35. The Tumbling
  36. Enter the Darkness
  37. Unforgettable
  38. Black Powder
  39. Unbreakable Chains
  40. Dismiss
  41. Master, Tell Me the Truth
  42. Forze dell’Oscurita
  43. No More Bugs!!
  44. UNTAMABLE
  45. Twister ~Kingdom Mix~
  46. Majestic Wings
  47. Ice-hot Lobster
  48. Gigabyte Mantis
  49. Dread of Night
  50. L’Eminenza Oscura
  51. Wave of Darkness / L’Impeto Oscuro
  52. Dearly Beloved ~Unchained χ Version~
  53. Wake Up, World!
  54. Face My Fears / Don't Think Twice ~Instrumental~
  55. Titanic Clash
  56. Anger Unchained
  57. Eye of the Storm
  58. Rise of the Union
  59. Forza Finale
  60. Edge of Existence
  61. Nachtflügel
 
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Gengar84 said:
Rather than specific characters, are there any archetypes, either flavorful or from a gameplay perspective that you feel Smash is still lacking and would like to see more of? For example, I’d love to see more ice element users and polearm users. We also don’t really have any pirates unless you count Ridley or K. Rool. I think it would also be cool to get a female villain.
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I want an Install done properly dammit. Other ideas I'm very fond of are the following

1: Time manipulation, I see this working by having the character create a bubble where time slows down or stops completely for whoever gets inside, like the Swirlix Pokeball, only to gradually shrink until it disappears and you need to wait for the cooldown to wear off.

2: A heavy who can ignore projectiles, I came up with this when thinking of how Edelgard could work and her personal skill in 3H is that she gains a massive Res buff if she ends her turn by waiting, meaning magic is less effective on her despite being her weaker stat. The way I see this working is kind of like Deep Breathing but if you pull it off, you'll have armour that works on every projectile in the game for a limited time. The idea of a heavyweight who's slow but can't be zoned out sounds really ****ing good to me.

3: Android 21. For those who don't know, 21's gimmick in DBFZ is that if she uses her command grab on a character, she'd copy a new move from them, the move depending on what kind of character she hit, which iirc were Goku family, Vegeta family, Alien and Other. The best characters I can think of for this are Velvet Crowe and Soma Cruz and I see this working great. To help visualize it, if Velvet hit someone with electricity proficiency like Pikachu or Samus, she'd get Thunder Blitz, if Soma hits someone associated with fire like Mario, Captain Falcon, Charizard, etc then he'd gain the classic Hellfire attack
 
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Perkilator said:
I guess since we're on the topic of KH, here's my over-ambitious song list for if Sora got in!
  1. Simple and Clean ~Orchestra~
  2. Dearly Beloved
  3. Dive Into the Heart / Destati
  4. Bustin’ Up on the Beach
  5. Destiny’s Force
  6. Shrouding Dark Cloud ~Gigas Blast~
  7. Squirming Evil
  8. Hand in Hand
  9. Blast Away! ~Gummi Ship Medley~
  10. The Deep End
  11. Scherzo di Notte / Black Garden
  12. Forze del Male
  13. Disappeared
  14. Another Side
  15. The 13th Struggle
  16. Sinister Sundown / Working Together
  17. Revenge of Chaos
  18. Sanctuary ~Orchestra~
  19. Tension Rising ~Reaper’s Revenge~
  20. Desire for All That is Lost
  21. Vim and Vigor
  22. The Encounter
  23. The 13th Dilemma
  24. Sinister Shadows
  25. A Fight to the Death
  26. Darkness of the Unknown
  27. The 13th Reflection
  28. The Other Promise
  29. Rage Awakened
  30. Fate of the Unknown
  31. Lord of the Castle
  32. Fight and Away
  33. Critical Drive
  34. Vector to the Heavens
  35. The Tumbling
  36. Enter the Darkness
  37. Unforgettable
  38. Black Powder
  39. Unbreakable Chains
  40. Dismiss
  41. Master, Tell Me the Truth
  42. Forze dell’Oscurita
  43. No More Bugs!!
  44. UNTAMABLE
  45. Twister ~Kingdom Mix~
  46. Majestic Wings
  47. Ice-hot Lobster
  48. Gigabyte Mantis
  49. Dread of Night
  50. L’Eminenza Oscura
  51. Wave of Darkness / L’Impeto Oscuro
  52. Dearly Beloved ~Unchained χ Version~
  53. Wake Up, World!
  54. Face My Fears / Don't Think Twice ~Instrumental~
  55. Titanic Clash
  56. Anger Unchained
  57. Eye of the Storm
  58. Rise of the Union
  59. Forza Finale
  60. Edge of Existence
  61. Nachtflügel
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Any list with The Encounter, Vim and Vigor and the 13th struggle is a win for me
 
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SonicSmasher1 said:
Nintendo E3 news is here, guys!

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I'm really glad we have a date, but why did it have to be the last day of E3? 😣 Right in the middle of my shift too! Why doesn't Nintendo fit things around MY schedule?! I sent them an email about this...
 
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Michael the Spikester said:
:ultinkling::ultdaisy::ultridley::ultsimon::ultrichter::ultchrom::ultdarksamus:
:ultkrool::ultisabelle::ultken::ultincineroar::ultpiranha::ultjoker::ulthero:
:ultbanjokazooie::ult_terry::ultbyleth::ultminmin:ultsteve::ultsephiroth::ultpyra:

We've really have come a long way.

Such an amazing roster from fan-favorites, long overdue requested characters, characters who left a massive impact on gaming, etc.

Can't wait to see who the last two potentially are.
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I'm going all in on my double reveal for Dante + Demi-fiend theory.
Hydreigonfan01 said:
Wait a minute.

We had both Square Enix and Microsoft for both FP1 and 2 while ATLUS has only had one character for FP1.
SMT III HD Remaster has released making Demi-Fiend a good marketing pick.
Dante made a cameo in Nocturne which started the "Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry series" meme, which has now been referenced by Nintendo's Twitter intern.
Sakurai's recent Famitsu Column makes people think a double reveal could happen due to Sakurai saying that the last Fighters Pass is ending soon.
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Dante and Demi-Fiend double reveal baby. :4pacman:
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Cutie Gwen said:
I want an Install done properly dammit. Other ideas I'm very fond of are the following

1: Time manipulation, I see this working by having the character create a bubble where time slows down or stops completely for whoever gets inside, like the Swirlix Pokeball, only to gradually shrink until it disappears and you need to wait for the cooldown to wear off.

2: A heavy who can ignore projectiles, I came up with this when thinking of how Edelgard could work and her personal skill in 3H is that she gains a massive Res buff if she ends her turn by waiting, meaning magic is less effective on her despite being her weaker stat. The way I see this working is kind of like Deep Breathing but if you pull it off, you'll have armour that works on every projectile in the game for a limited time. The idea of a heavyweight who's slow but can't be zoned out sounds really ****ing good to me.

3: Android 21. For those who don't know, 21's gimmick in DBFZ is that if she uses her command grab on a character, she'd copy a new move from them, the move depending on what kind of character she hit, which iirc were Goku family, Vegeta family, Alien and Other. The best characters I can think of for this are Velvet Crowe and Soma Cruz and I see this working great. To help visualize it, if Velvet hit someone with electricity proficiency like Pikachu or Samus, she'd get Thunder Blitz, if Soma hits someone associated with fire like Mario, Captain Falcon, Charizard, etc then he'd gain the classic Hellfire attack
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Those all sound like really fun ideas. I wonder who could work for the time manipulation. Magus from Chrono Trigger is another of my top three most wanted characters and I could see something like that working for him even though I didn’t use that for the moveset I made. This might be a great gimmick for the Prince of Persia.
 
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