Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Not that I entertain this "leak" but I'm surprised nobody brought up Soma Cruz for "sorrow".

Soma Cruz still sounds to me like a name of a car, not a character.

"Introducing the new Soma Cruz from Toyota."


Still secretly want "sorrow" to be Pagliacci the Sad Clown

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Wait a minute, "Sorrow" is another word for "Despair"...

This is how Monokuma wins!

Just in time too, with the Game Grumps playing that game

 

[Evil Trapezium]

The Codenames are

Bedlam
Sorrow
Dorako

Axel Stone
Soma Cruz
Aggron

That's my final answer!

 

[JOJONumber691]

Okay. Actual Predictions, because I'm bored:
Ryu Hayabusa: He's Borderline Inevitable due to Reasons already stated better by others so I'm not going to waste too much time here.

Some Random First Party: Gut Feeling, especially since I think the 2021 Character is probably.....

SMTV Protag: He has a Bunch of the Same Evidence Byleth had, Unique World, Unique, never before seen Playstyle,, Good Company Relation between Nintendo and SEGA Sammy, and an additional Backup Plan Byleth didn't even have, with other Protagonists in case of delays. Content for Days, I think this character is in a SURPRISINGLY Good Spot Right Now, considering they're a 2021 Third Party Character Trust Me, I am JUST as Shocked as You Gays are lol.
Also:

Not that I entertain this "leak" but I'm surprised nobody brought up Soma Cruz for "sorrow".

Yeah that's Kinda Perfect lol.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Axel Stone
Soma Cruz
Aggron

That's my final answer!

no Sgt Cortez

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH EVIL TRAPEZIUM?!

 

[ShrimpScampi]

The Codenames are

Bedlam
Sorrow
Dorako

Just for Fun, Not because it's real.

Bedlam - uhhhh the Lord of Calamity caused quite a bit of bedlam, so Velvet Crowe
Sorrow - hmmmmm no idea. Sora is sort of a vowel sound away from Sorrow
Dorako - the Dragon of Dojima himself, Kazuma Kiryu

 

[Powerman293]

None of the other existing Mii costumes got upgraded, so I never understood why so many people believed Geno's was bound to get special treatment. Maybe Nintendo or SE is responsible for why we didn't get a deluxe, but honestly, I think it's way more believable to say Sakurai did it to save time. It was already there, fully finished. Why go back and tweak it when you could port the costume and work on other stuff instead?

I mean, a handful of people got it done in less than a week, and it wasn't their full time job. So it couldn't have been THAT expensive.

Unless Geno is worth so little that nobody is willing to pay employees a week's salary to add-on to his costume.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Oh, Okay now that I could use this as an excuse to elaborate

Pretty much, someone uploaded some Codename leak to 4Chan. As usual, Take with HUGE grain of salt, but just for fun, people tried to decipher the names

/v/ - Video Games » Thread #538216357 (b4k.co)

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/v/ - My best guess for the Smash Codenames - Video Games - 4chan (4channel.org)

The Active thread that's trying to decipher the names

The Codenames are

Bedlam
Sorrow
Dorako

Just for Fun, Not because it's real.

Okay, if we're doing it just for fun, my guesses would be:

Bedlam: Chosen Undead, because of the Undead Asylum - apparently the words were used as synonyms, specifically in the medieval era.

Sorrow: I have no freaking clue. The closest associations I could make were Castlevania, Metal Gear or Klonoa.

Dorako: Ryu Hayabusa. First name sounds close to "dragon", he's part of the Dragon Ninja clan and he uses the Dragon Sword.

For the record, I think any rumor that includes more than one character at this point is a big red flag considering the last few characters were mostly leaked individually a few days beforehand.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean, a handful of people got it done in less than a week, and it wasn't their full time job. So it couldn't have been THAT expensive.

Unless Geno is worth so little that nobody is willing to pay employees a week's salary to add-on to his costume.

Or they treated Geno the same way as literally every other returning Mii Costume

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Tis today Tuesday. What shall we get today?

A tourney? An event?

Will there be a disconfirmation today?

We shall see tonight.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Lowkey surprised Overwatch hasn’t gotten a spirit event yet

if it happens this soon before Crash gets in tho (assuming he’s in) it may not bode well for him, it’s the same feeling i got when ArcSys got a River City event before a playable character

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Lowkey surprised Overwatch hasn’t gotten a spirit event yet

if it happens this soon before Crash gets in tho (assuming he’s in) it may not bode well for him, it’s the same feeling i got when ArcSys got a River City event before a playable character

I'm actually gonna be honest. I'm starting to find Crash's chances becoming less likely now as time goes.

I honestly don't think he's gonna get in. If we get anyone at E3 this year I expect someone more around the lines of like Ryu Hayabusa.

 

[Mapusaurus]

Lowkey surprised Overwatch hasn’t gotten a spirit event yet

if it happens this soon before Crash gets in tho (assuming he’s in) it may not bode well for him, it’s the same feeling i got when ArcSys got a River City event before a playable character

As much as I would like crash i dont think he will be in most liklely

 

[CureParfait]

Lowkey surprised Overwatch hasn’t gotten a spirit event yet

if it happens this soon before Crash gets in tho (assuming he’s in) it may not bode well for him, it’s the same feeling i got when ArcSys got a River City event before a playable character

I feel like if Crash was in he might be a spirit possibly. Since seems like Crash's chance of being a fighter is going down.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

As much as I would like crash i dont think he will be in most liklely

I agree, I feel people have been overrating his chances along with Dante.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I agree, I feel people have been overrating his chances along with Dante.

To be fair, we all overrate our most wanted's chances. Even I'm willing to admit my belief in Rex is partially due to bias.

 

[Adrianette Bromide]

You know I kinda thought that if Geno didn't get a Mii in Smash 4, he probably would have gotten a "premium" treatment in Ultimate. Some people seem to forget Geno was given the most deluxe treatment out of any fighter in the DLC for 4. He was the only one who got a splash screen out of any Mii costume in the entire game and I think that's where a lot of people probably expected special treatment. It seems like it was just easy to port over the assets (althought the Chocobo Hat seems different than the original so hm) while focus on the more important stuff.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

All I can say is the most I expect as among the final three is a Capcom rep but that's it.

Sakurai and Nintendo are such wildcards.

 

[Perkilator]

It's kind of a shame none of the other Spirit Boards got up to the amount of Spirits that Sephy's did. His is currently the only Spirit Board to get more than 11 Spirits (in his case, 13). This is something I find especially egregious with Byleth's and Min Min's Spirit Board; they're both owned by Nintendo, so what's stopping the team from adding more characters to their respective Spirit Boards?

 

[Lyncario]

Oh, Okay now that I could use this as an excuse to elaborate

Pretty much, someone uploaded some Codename leak to 4Chan. As usual, Take with HUGE grain of salt, but just for fun, people tried to decipher the names

/v/ - Video Games » Thread #538216357 (b4k.co)

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/v/ - My best guess for the Smash Codenames - Video Games - 4chan (4channel.org)

The Active thread that's trying to decipher the names

The Codenames are

Bedlam
Sorrow
Dorako

Just for Fun, Not because it's real.

Well, I don't have that much of an idea for them, but maybe

Belam - Reimu Hakurei

Reimu's name means spirit dreamer, and not only that, but Touhou is also pretty chaotic, so maybe it could work.

Sorrow - Soma Cruz

This is mainly because his games are named "Aria of Sorrow" and "Dawn of Sorrow", not really another explanation. Otherwise, I don't know.

Dorako - Corrin 2 electric boogaloo with the female alt as the default.

For real, I don't know for this one.

All of these were strectches, but it's kinda fun to do I guess.

 

[Dinoman96]

It's kind of a shame none of the other Spirit Boards got up to the amount of Spirits that Sephy's did. His is currently the only Spirit Board to get more than 11 Spirits (in his case, 13). This is something I find especially egregious with Byleth's and Min Min's Spirit Board; they're both owned by Nintendo, so what's stopping the team from adding more characters to their respective Spirit Boards?

Final Fantasy literally needed all the help it could get in terms of representation outside of Cloud/Midgar. Let's be real here.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

You know I kinda thought that if Geno didn't get a Mii in Smash 4, he probably would have gotten a "premium" treatment in Ultimate. Some people seem to forget Geno was given the most deluxe treatment out of any fighter in the DLC for 4. He was the only one who got a splash screen out of any Mii costume in the entire game and I think that's where a lot of people probably expected special treatment. It seems like it was just easy to port over the assets (althought the Chocobo Hat seems different than the original so hm) while focus on the more important stuff.

The Geno costume got a few graphical updates, too. Not impressive, but it’s not a straight port.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Let's be honest. Geno was pretty much a long-shot to begin with.

Both Ridley and K. Rool were long-recurring villains and arch-nemesis' of the protagonists of their franchises and among some of Nintendo's most iconic villains.

Banjo was from one of the best-selling games on the N64 and a popular and iconic game from the N64 games being the protagonist, a well-beloved character from nostalgic fans. He was even on the boxart of N64 with Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, and Pikachu.

Simply put, Geno was a side character whose only appearance was from an almost 25-year-old RPG game and hasn't appeared since. He never really compared to those three.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH EVIL TRAPEZIUM?!

It is clearly a fake leak and Cortez has no time for fake leaks as he has Time Travel to tell apart the real from the fake.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Let's be honest. Geno was pretty much a long-shot to begin with.

Both Ridley and K. Rool were long-recurring villains and arch-nemesis' of the protagonists of their franchises and among some of Nintendo's most iconic villains.

Banjo was from one of the best-selling games on the N64 and a popular and iconic game from the N64 games being the protagonist, a well-beloved character from nostalgic fans. He was even on the boxart of N64 with Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, and Pikachu.

Simply put, Geno was a side character whose only appearance was from an almost 25-year-old RPG game and hasn't appeared since. He never really compared to those three.

I mean, SMRPG was a large game at the time. It sold like 2 Million copies. That wasn't far behind Banjo and K Rool's games in terms of sales.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Let's be honest. Geno was pretty much a long-shot to begin with.

Both Ridley and K. Rool were long-recurring villains and arch-nemesis' of the protagonists of their franchises and among some of Nintendo's most iconic villains.

Banjo was from one of the best-selling games on the N64 and a popular and iconic game from the N64 games being the protagonist, a well-beloved character from nostalgic fans. He was even on the boxart of N64 with Mario, Link, Donkey Kong, and Pikachu.

Simply put, Geno was a side character whose only appearance was from an almost 25-year-old RPG game and hasn't appeared since. He never really compared to those three.

Geno did get one cameo appearance in another game, but otherwise more or less correct.

 

[chocolatejr9]

It is clearly a fake leak and Cortez has no time for fake leaks as he has Time Travel to tell apart the real from the fake.

How does THAT work?

 

[SNEKeater]

Not that I entertain this "leak" but I'm surprised nobody brought up Soma Cruz for "sorrow".

The Castlevania rep we truly need. Seriously, no joking. He would be super dope. He has a cool design and gameplay wise he could bring interesting ideas, such as the soul system from the Sorrow games.

Also, he

Spoiler: Aria of Sorrow spoilers

would be the closest thing to play as Dracula in Smash, and that's cool

 

[Rie Sonomura]

The Castlevania rep we truly need. Seriously, no joking. He would be super dope. He has a cool design and gameplay wise he could bring interesting ideas, such as the soul system from the Sorrow games.

Also, he

Spoiler: Aria of Sorrow spoilers

would be the closest thing to play as Dracula in Smash, and that's cool

Imagine using Soma against Boss!Dracula

“who are you?”
“I’m you but cooler”

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I'm the maniacal evil villain who would probably unironically enjoy a Mii Brawler costume of the Crash Mascot Suit more than Crash himself if I'm honest

 

[AmphabulouSnake]

Imagine the spirit event announced tonight is about Fortnite lol

 

[Dinoman96]

The only one-off characters that typically get into Smash are like, the main protagonists like Lucas and most of the FE characters.

I think Sheik is probably the closest Smash has to characters like Geno or Midna. A supporting character who really only appeared in one mainline game...but she's more or less excused by the fact that she's just, you know, Zelda in another outfit.

I guess there's also Dark Pit...but he's just a glorified alt costume of Pit with like one or two differences anyways. Unlike Geno who would have to a full blown newcomer.

 

[Faso115]

Sorrow is Geno because that's what his fans are experiencing with the Mii Costume.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Imagine the spirit event announced tonight is about Fortnite lol

10/10 best timeline, so much for insiders making Fortnite in Smash jokes

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Turns out Sorrow is in actuality the new Gen 9 water starter Pokemon. He's just a REALLY REALLY SAD Pokemon that cries ALL THE BLOODY TIME and entire Hydro Pumps full of tears are flying out of this thing's face if someone so much as glances at it. It's a really sad.... I dunno... some sort of aquatic creature that cries all the time.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Fortnite is legitimately the only franchise where I'd be happy it'd at most get spirit'd or Mii'd then a playable character.

Hell, I'll take a 9th Fire Emblem character before we get Jonesy.

 

[Eldrake]

I would laugh for hours if it turned out that the "no comment" was because of a spirit event and not even for a Mii costume.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I would laugh for hours if it turned out that the "no comment" was because of a spirit event and not even for a Mii costume.

I mean anything’s possible right?

 

[DarthEnderX]

Criticizing/Disliking SwSh has become such a norm that it's genuinely surprising for many when they learn that there might be a few users here who are serious when they say they'd be happy with a Gen 8 Pokémon.

I say this as someone with a complete Living Pokedex and who actually likes Sw/Sh...

I have no interest in more Pokemon. It's not AS bad as Fire Emblem, because at least Pokemon's popularity justifies it's level of representation. But don't expect me to be excited about any more of them coming to Smash.

 

[RileyXY1]

I don't know if Epic would want to Fortnite to be represented in Smash with nothing more than a Spirit Event. I also think that the chances of a Gen 8 Pokemon are dead because of the Spirit Event.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

I'd like Ryu Hayabusa in Smash ONLY because then TECHNICALLY Dead or Alive would be repped in Smash and that's just an offer I can't refuse. Gotta stop DOATEC from screwing around with all the things. They already engineered both Alpha-152 and Phase 4 into existence based on Kasumi, don't let them get their hands on Mewtwo, who is already engineered to be "the world's strongest Pokemon" or Sephiroth and his Jenova cells.

Also if some of the DOA girls show up as Spirits in Hayabusa's set then uhhhhh I'm certainly not gonna argue about it.