Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[chocolatejr9]

Some exciting recruitment news.

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So Metroid Prime 4 will be one of those blockbuster games?

 

[N3ON]

One can only hope that Nintendo will see fit to use MP4 as an example of what the Switch Pro (temp.) would be capable of rendering, given it's a first-person, non-cartoony, hardcore-skewing game and thus would benefit more than others from looking especially spiffy.

 

[Mamboo07]

I find it bit funny that fans were expecting Zelda and Metroid as well another Smash reveal in a direct of indie games.

 

[kylexv]

New Sakurai Post:

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Kirby and the Amazing Mirror turns 17 today.

 

[cashregister9]

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Amazing Mirror Anniversary

EDIT:

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I find it bit funny that fans were expecting Zelda and Metroid as well another Smash reveal in a direct of indie games.

I think nobody were expecting those unironically.

 

[AreJay25]

New Sakurai Post:

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Kirby and the Amazing Mirror turns 17 today.

Haha, that can't be correct. Surely you mean it turns 7 today, right?

... right?

Sakurai I don't want to feel old anymore please stop doing this to me

 

[Merengue]

I do think there's a possibility that CP11 could be revealed first before CP10.

If they decide to Reveal both characters at E3, If CP11 is not set to come out sometime after the Direct and CP10 is the bigger character of the two, I could see CP11 being revealed first. It would also make sense for the bigger character to have the Last trailer in the lore, but they might have made them CP10 because reasons and such

With that being said, I do think that Both characters could release sometime in June or before. that might be a bit optimistic, but I Imagine they at least have made great progress on Both characters. CP10 is very likely already in presentable state and might be in the balancing stage (and probably already has Sakurai presents flimed)

If CP11 is going to be revealed first, I feel like CP10 could be another villain that is also behind the strings in World of Light and become the next major antagonist in WoL part 2/prequel. The next villain wouldn't have a spirit already in the base game like Sephiroth. The only villain who doesn't have a spirit which could play a big part in the Smash lore so far that comes to my mind is Porky Minch from MOTHER(His complete omission is one of the strangest things in the game). Making other people fight each other is kinda Porky's thing. I could think of a scenario when Sephiroth is about to release Supernova, but somehow a "ball" rolls toward him and it somehows locks him inside. Sephiroth tries to get out, but if only he knew that he's inside something that is "absolutely safe."

 

[BlondeLombax]

I think nobody were expecting those unironically.

It's the Nintendo fanbase, it's impossible to tell if people are being ironic or not.

 

[DarthEnderX]

Wow, wicked slow night.

 

[Gengar84]

Do you think there’s any chance we could get a Disgaea character as one of the last two? I’ve always enjoyed those games and I think a character from it could be a fun choice for Smash. The series is pretty niche so I’m not really sure how likely it is. Ideally I would want Etna, Rozalin, or Valvatorez if we did get a character but I think Laharl is probably the most likely since he’s essentially the Marth of Disgaea.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you think there’s any chance we could get a Disgaea character as one of the last two? I’ve always enjoyed those games and I think a character from it could be a fun choice for Smash. The series is pretty niche so I’m not really sure how likely it is. Ideally I would want Etna, Rozalin, or Valvatorez if we did get a character but I think Laharl is probably the most likely since he’s essentially the Marth of Disgaea.

Prinny tho. Cute penguin mascot gets my vote any day of the week. But yeah it would be Laharl.

 

[Gengar84]

Prinny tho. Cute penguin mascot gets my vote any day of the week. But yeah it would be Laharl.

A prinny would be a great choice too dood. They were always pretty funny and memorable. That’s one reason I want Etna because she would use prinnies in her moveset dood.

 

[Cyberfire]

Some exciting recruitment news.

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This game is so far away its ridiculous.

I really hope it's good!

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

I’m going to share an unpopular and controversial opinion...Unless there is another Fighter’s Pass in the works that we just don’t know about, I really don’t see Crash Bandicoot being one of the final two (potentially 3, if that one leak ends up being true.) That’s not the controversial part though...I don’t know if it’s just because I don’t have a huge attachment to the character or what, but when he is referred to as a gaming icon...I just don’t agree. I grew up in the 90’s too, when Crash was huge.

I don’t know. I mean if he gets in, that’s jolly good, and I won’t be mad or upset. I just think there are more interesting options.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I really don’t see Crash Bandicoot being one of the final two

You're among friends on this site. It seems to be a pretty popular opinion here. Not me though, I think Crash is Fighter 10.

 

[Gengar84]

I’m going to share an unpopular and controversial opinion...Unless there is another Fighter’s Pass in the works that we just don’t know about, I really don’t see Crash Bandicoot being one of the final two (potentially 3, if that one leak ends up being true.) That’s not the controversial part though...I don’t know if it’s just because I don’t have a huge attachment to the character or what, but when he is referred to as a gaming icon...I just don’t agree. I grew up in the 90’s too, when Crash was huge.

I don’t know. I mean if he gets in, that’s jolly good, and I won’t be mad or upset. I just think there are more interesting options.

That’s fine with me. I’m not really opposed to Crash getting in and I think it would be kind of cool just for his history as PlayStation’s mascot and Mario’s rival but I have no real attachment to the character either. I would much rather have a Warcraft, Starcraft, or Diablo character from Activision/Blizzard even though that is also a very unpopular opinion.

 

[Will]

This game is so far away its ridiculous.

I really hope it's good!

Better drop with Trilogy HD on Switch too smh

 

[Ayumi Tachibana]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

 

[Gengar84]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Poor Diddy Kong. At least my two favorites are pretty high (Ganondorf and Sephiroth). I’m a little surprised to see Mewtwo that low. I think it’s one of the coolest characters.

 

[Deleted member]

Do you think there’s any chance we could get a Disgaea character as one of the last two? I’ve always enjoyed those games and I think a character from it could be a fun choice for Smash. The series is pretty niche so I’m not really sure how likely it is. Ideally I would want Etna, Rozalin, or Valvatorez if we did get a character but I think Laharl is probably the most likely since he’s essentially the Marth of Disgaea.

Laharl is the most likely, followed by either Etna or Flonne, but altogether I'd say the chances are minimal. I love the series (I've sunken hundreds of hours into each of them) but Disgaea is really niche and the company was struggling a bit financially a couple years ago before the pandemic was a threat to companies.

Disgaea 6 is going to be Switch Exclusive...and Disgaea 5 was brought to Switch a few years back as NIS themselves said they'd like to work with Nintendo more, so maybe its not super close to zero, but it still feels like an incredible longshot. Like we've got a better chance of a Wild ARMs character than Disgaea.

 

[Gengar84]

Laharl is the most likely, followed by either Etna or Flonne, but altogether I'd say the chances are minimal. I love the series (I've sunken hundreds of hours into each of them) but Disgaea is really niche and the company was struggling a bit financially a couple years ago before the pandemic was a threat to companies.

Disgaea 6 is going to be Switch Exclusive...and Disgaea 5 was brought to Switch a few years back as NIS themselves said they'd like to work with Nintendo more, so maybe its not super close to zero, but it still feels like an incredible longshot. Like we've got a better chance of a Wild ARMs character than Disgaea.

Yeah it’s a shame the series wasn’t more successful than it was. I remember waiting at GameStop for a midnight release of Disgaea 4 and another game (I think it was Dead Island?). There seemed to be around 100 people in line and I think I was the only one picking up Disgaea lol.

It’s also sad how disappointing Disgaea 6 is looking. I’ve bought every game until now and put hundreds of hours into each but this might be the first one I pass on. I’m not sure what it is with my favorite series being so disappointing with the most recent game. I had also bought every Dynasty Warriors until 9 and ended up passing on that one too.

 

[osby]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Byleth and Joker in top 5

You love to see it.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah it’s a shame the series wasn’t more successful than it was. I remember waiting at GameStop for a midnight release of Disgaea 4 and another game (I think it was Dead Island?). There seemed to be around 100 people in line and I think I was the only one picking up Disgaea lol.

It’s also sad how disappointing Disgaea 6 is looking. I’ve bought every game until now and put hundreds of hours into each but this might be the first one I pass on. I’m not sure what it is with my favorite series being so disappointing with the most recent game. I had also bought every Dynasty Warriors until 9 and ended up passing on that one too.

I'm seriously considering passing too....but at the same time I don't think there's anything else near the summer worth playing, so I'll probably end up picking it up to give it a try. Chances are it'll be one of the rare $40 releases instead of standard new game price. Even then, I don't understand what made them think that 3D look was good. Sure, you wanted to change the style, I get it, but how could you look at it and not gag a little?

 

[Gengar84]

Byleth and Joker in top 5

You love to see it.

I loved both games and Joker is cool. I have no problems with Byleth but I still wish it had been Dimitri or Edelgard personally.

 

[Faso115]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Recency bias too strong in this one i see

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Byleth in top 5

Im so proud of Japan

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

Recency bias too strong in this one i see

Also just Japan loves Xenoblade 2 and Pyra/Mythra.

 

[SKX31]

New Sakurai Post:

Kirby and the Amazing Mirror turns 17 today.

Ah, the time when kids / teens were ****ing stoked over getting a flip phone and send SMSes to each other. It's one of those things where it might seem completely banal to a lot of younger people now. Still, a lot of the appeal was that the phones themselves, and that's what Amazing Mirror (+ other media released at the time, such as Advent Children) tried to capitalize on.

If Amazing Mirror ever gets a future remake there's a decent chance that the phone functionality will be much more expanded upon. And honestly, that could be a very interesting thing to do.

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

There are quite a few things that correlate well with Ultimate's playerbase at large:

• Some of the more popular characters seem to be of the "simple but explosive" variety. is a great example of this. He, alongside and appear to be some of the more popular characters to pick according to Ultimategamedata.

• Characters people are attached to play a major part, obviously, but it's especially noticeable with the non-DLC characters that are on top here.

• DLC characters tend to be favored, although that's not always the case. 's 57th here, and I have to presume that's partly because he's technical and complicated to get a grip on. is the new kid on the block, we'll have to see if her / Mythra continue to be popular. Given that they're talked about a lot, and [EDIT] I'm trusting Ramen Tengoku when he says that Xenoblade 2 is popular to begin with, I could see them staying pretty popular.

• Several more technical characters are on the low end of the popularity scale. , and stand out, and all three of them are also on the lower half on Ultimategamedata's popularity scale. Although the three aren't as low on UGD's popularity metrics as here. Worth noting is that all three characters are way more used in competitive circles: Diddy was 23rd in PGStats' recently released Placement %, a far, far cry from dead last here.

• It doesn't look like Japan's competitive scene has a major impact on which characters casuals favor. Partly because there's probably a significant subset of casuals who don't give a **** about competitive games. Otherwise several characters like and would be higher here. Still, competitive players can signal boost a character's popularity because matches are being streamed and uploaded to sites like Youtube or in Japan's case Nico Nico. You wanna know why of all characters is 24th here? Part of the reason might be Zackray, a famous top-level player using him and Joker. Now, the primary reasons Joker and ROB are up there are probably that they're relatively simple to use and have some flashy yet easy to understand stuff, but the signal boost helps push them higher nevertheless.

 

[Gengar84]

Also just Japan loves Xenoblade 2 and Pyra/Mythra.

Xenoblade is one of my favorite series ever. Xenoblade 2 was amazing even if I wasn’t a fan of everything about it (mostly the fan service and Tora/Poppy). My favorite character was Nia and she could have been really cool in Smash with Dromarch but that was never going to happen. Pyra and Mythra are cool too.

 

[3BitSaurus]

There are quite a few things that correlate well with Ultimate's playerbase at large:

• Some of the more popular characters seem to be of the "simple but explosive" variety. is a great example of this. He, alongside and appear to be some of the more popular characters to pick according to Ultimategamedata.
• Characters people are attached to play a major part, obviously, but it's especially noticeable with the non-DLC characters that are on top here.
• DLC characters tend to be favored, although that's not always the case. 's 57th here, and I have to presume that's partly because he's technical and complicated to get a grip on. is the new kid on the block, we'll have to see if her / Mythra continue to be popular. Given that they're talked about a lot, I could see them staying pretty popular.
• Several more technical characters are on the low end of the popularity scale. , and stand out, and all three of them are also on the lower half on Ultimategamedata's popularity scale. Although the three aren't as low on UGD's popularity metrics as here. Worth noting is that all three characters are way more used in competitive circles: Diddy was 23rd in PGStats' recently released Placement %, a far, far cry from dead last here.
• It doesn't look like Japan's competitive scene has a major impact on which characters casuals favor. Partly because there's probably a significant subset of casuals who don't give a **** about competitive games. Otherwise several characters like and would be higher here. Still, competitive players can signal boost a character's popularity because matches are being streamed and uploaded to sites like Youtube or in Japan's case Nico Nico. You wanna know why of all characters is 24th here? Part of the reason might be Zackray, a famous top-level player using him and Joker. Now, the primary reasons Joker and ROB are up there are probably that they're relatively simple to use and have some flashy yet easy to understand stuff, but the signal boost helps push them higher nevertheless.

Yeah, the list pretty much reflects several things that were reported about Japan's playerbase. For example, almost all of the DLC picks from recent games are in the top 5... except for Min Min, who seems to be hated there.

Meanwhile, the third parties seem to almost be ranked according to how you'd see them in a tier list, with characters like , and close to the top, , and in the middle and and closer to the bottom. There are a few oddities here and there, like being closer to the top than the middle, but I'd wager these can be attributed to the games' specific popularity in Japan.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Corrin at 15, ya love to see it

Anyways, on the topic of Pyra/Mythra, Japan loooooves Xenoblade 2, and Rex always ranked high on polls and stuff there, so I don't really think it's a recency bias thing regarding their top spot.

 

[Gengar84]

Corrin at 15, ya love to see it

Anyways, on the topic of Pyra/Mythra, Japan loooooves Xenoblade 2, and Rex always ranked high on polls and stuff there, so I don't really think it's a recency bias thing regarding their top spot.

Not going to lie, Corrin’s moveset in Smash is really cool and he/she is a lot of fun to use. There are tons of Fire Emblem characters I personally prefer as characters but I do enjoy Corrin in Smash.

 

[TwiceEXE]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

3 DLC in the top 5? 6 in the top 10? Min Min as the worst DLC character?

These people are so smart, you love to see it.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Netolabo did a survey asks for your most favorite character from Smash Ultimate.
There was a total of 19,757 participations from March 27th to April 10th.
https://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/research/articles/172655/

Spoiler: Here's the result.

1. Pyra/Mythra - 1318
2. Ganondorf - 982
3. Joker - 963
4. Kirby - 839
5. Byleth - 590
6. Cloud - 554
7. Terry - 495
8. Sephiroth - 459
9. Captain Falcon - 456
10. Hero - 404
11. Ness - 373
12. King K. Rool - 328
13. Ike - 327
14. Snake - 323
15. Corrin - 320
16. Mr. Game & Watch - 315
17. Zelda - 311
18. Pikachu - 303
19. Jigglypuff - 300
20. Lucas - 297
21. Lucina - 295
22. Link - 292
23. Robin - 289
24. R.O.B. - 272
25. King Dedede - 269
26. Greninja - 264
27. Yoshi - 254
28. Sonic - 251
29. Bowser - 243
30. Marth - 228
31. Incineroar - 223
32. Inkling - 218
33. Donkey Kong - 216
34. Mario - 211
35. Bayonetta - 210
35. Roy - 210
35. Meta Knight - 210
38. Dark Pit - 203
39. Wolf - 192
40. Ridley - 183
41. Banjo & Kazooie - 167
42. Shulk - 164
42. Little Mac - 164
44. Mewtwo - 163
45. Wii Fit Trainer - 162
46. Palutena - 161
47. Lucario - 153
48. Piranha Plant - 151
49. Samus - 147
50. Zero Suit Samus - 145
51. Pac-Man - 139
52. Mega Man - 135
53. Isabella 134
54. Pokemon Trainer - 131
55. Ice Climbers - 128
56. Pit - 127
57. Villager - 124
57. Steve - 124
59. Luigi - 121
59. Ken - 121
61. Chrom - 116
62. Pichu - 114
63. Falco - 110
64. Mii Gunner - 109
65. Toon Link - 105
66. Richter - 104
66. Bowser Jr. - 104
68. Fox - 102
69. Min Min - 101
70. Sheik - 97
71. Ryu - 96
72. Rosalina & Luma - 81
73. Young Link - 76
74. Duck Hunt - 72
75. Simon - 65
76. Wario - 62
77. Dark Samus - 57
77. Mii Brawler - 57
79. Dr. Mario - 55
80. Peach - 52
81. Olimar - 49
82. Daisy - 48
83. Mii Swordfighter - 43
84. Diddy Kong - 28

Yay Banjo & Kazooie beat Steve.

 

[Gengar84]

Yay Banjo & Kazooie beat Steve.

You love to see it.

Now we need the Battletoads and Fulgore to celebrate!

 

[Firox]

One can only hope that Nintendo will see fit to use MP4 as an example of what the Switch Pro (temp.) would be capable of rendering, given it's a first-person, non-cartoony, hardcore-skewing game and thus would benefit more than others from looking especially spiffy.

Seriously. Watch them go the typical Nintendo route and try to be "artsy" with a bunch of cheap cell shading and polygons. I could just imagine the salt...

"Yarn Metroid Prime 4"

(trailer shows a "crafted" Meta Ridley made from tin cans with buttons for eyes)

Then again, that was probably the dumpster fire that Nintendo walked in on before and demanded a total re-do of development.

 

[Gengar84]

Seriously. Watch them go the typical Nintendo route and try to be "artsy" with a bunch of cheap cell shading and polygons. I could just imagine the salt...

"Yarn Metroid Prime 4"

(trailer shows a "crafted" Meta Ridley made from tin cans with buttons for eyes)

Then again, that was probably the dumpster fire that Nintendo walked in on before and demanded a total re-do of development.

I still have no idea why they didn’t just go with Retro from the beginning. It makes me wonder if Retro had another project that got cancelled to work on Metroid.

 

[Firox]

I still have no idea why they didn’t just go with Retro from the beginning. It makes me wonder if Retro had another project that got cancelled to work on Metroid.

I always wondered the same thing. Retro did some great work before. Why not keep the awesome train going, ya know?

 

[Inue Houji]

Yeah, the list pretty much reflects several things that were reported about Japan's playerbase. For example, almost all of the DLC picks from recent games are in the top 5... except for Min Min, who seems to be hated there.

Meanwhile, the third parties seem to almost be ranked according to how you'd see them in a tier list, with characters like , and close to the top, , and in the middle and and closer to the bottom.

Yep, Pac-Man is mid tier. Please buff him Sakurai