Diablo III: Not even death can save you from me

[Divinokage]

Lmao. Thats like fighting like a WD, so boring!

 

[Player-3]

yeah i hate it too but my gear is so bad and i have no money to afford anything new (i JUST hit inferno lol even though i hit nightmare day 1 of release just havent been playing that much since)

 

[Hylian]

For those having trouble farming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZCweQVAn1M

 

[Ignatius]

Got this just messing around in act 1, about time the game stopped crushing me with terrible loot:

It's unfortunate that its +10 min damage and not some ias or +50% or so, but hey its still an upgrade.

 

[Divinokage]

Id put a crit gem inside that instead of more LoH, it has enough! lol.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Monk is terribly useless at the moment. I've been watching Monks on youtube, due to lackluster Damage reduction (compared to Barb), and Crappy DPS, there is never a reason to pick Monk over WD or Barb. WD Kite better with much better dps, and Barb can just straight up tank.

Monks have to pop their skills and tank for ~15 seconds then run in circles kiting while C/Ds happen. That being said I've seen very few Monks soo Inferno Act3+

In parties, they're still the worse class. Attack Speed hurt them even more..

Why ruin my favorite class Blizzard? I was a Monk/Ninja on FFXI for almost 5 yearrrssss.

Ah Well, I quit Monk for now until they fix it, and I read somewhere they acknowledged the problem. Wizard for now >.>

 

[Divinokage]

They also added a nerf where you cant gain unlimited spirit as you attack faster, I think it was like 6 spirit max per hit.

 

[Ignatius]

That nerf was actually for passive amount of spirit gained, which you could previously hit a large enough number to nearly non-stop use Tempest Rush. Which was silly and it's fine that they reduced that. The real issue from 1.03 is that the ias nerf hit sustainability of monks hard in that you generate a lot less spirit.

I'm not that well geared, and before I had that weapon drop I was still doing well enough in act 2 and 3 for farming, and that's really all you need to be able to do.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

^ It's not just that, but Monk isn't Monk. You're supposed to be able to be on the front lines and beat crap up, not run around for C/Ds. I might aswell play WD or Wizard, lol. Or Barb if I want to be hitting things.

I'm sure it'll get fixed, but it's mad disappoint.

 

[Ignatius]

I am in the front lines, monk is monk. The stats you posted weren't too far off from mine either iirc, so I'm really not sure where you're going wrong.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I am in the front lines, monk is monk. The stats you posted weren't too far off from mine either iirc, so I'm really not sure where you're going wrong.

What build do you use? Also, are you soloing? In groups, my Monk was front line np. It's just not near as good as other options...

I am talking solo, and if you are soloing as Monk without kiting, please post your build.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I got a weird, CD-intensive build for my Monk that's somewhere between tank-y and dps. I've had success with it so far, but I have a feeling that I'm really going to need REAL gear to support it when I start hitting Hell and beyond.

I'll show you guys my build when I get home from work.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Monk was epic for me until Act 2 inferno. I ran Keen Eye for Armor50%, Eva+20% Armor mantra, and used inviciblity/heal/flash to stay alive.

Problem is for once was once things were on C/D it was time to kite.

 

[Ignatius]

Yeah, I solo super easy in act 2.

I run Fist of Thunder+dodge, Deadly Reach+armor, Mystic Ally+water, Serenity+heal, Sweeping wind+either 3 spirt gen or torandos if you have loh, and Mantra of Evasion+20% armor.

Passives are Transcendence, Seize the Initiative, and One with Everything.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Dumb Q, what is LoH?

How did you use Fist of Thunder and Deadly Reach? Just Alternate?

How did that fare in Act3/4?

 

[Infinitysmash]

Yeah, I solo super easy in act 2.

I run Fist of Thunder+dodge, Deadly Reach+armor, Mystic Ally+water, Serenity+heal, Sweeping wind+either 3 spirt gen or torandos if you have loh, and Mantra of Evasion+20% armor.

Passives are Transcendence, Seize the Initiative, and One with Everything.

...are you the dude that was running with me and Tinderbox yesterday?

 

[Hylian]

LOL Monk is fine atm. In fact the game should be pretty easy for monks. Barb is probably a bit better solo but monk is definitely more useful in a group(can keep more survivability while adding pulls in for CC while barb can't really sacrifice anything for act 3/4 for cc). Monks with a barb in the group are unstoppable tanks as well because of impunity lmao.

 

[Kal]

I think they should nerf Barbs, if only because my class of choice has been nerfed like forty times. I know it's irrational, but basically: **** you Hylian.

In all seriousness, let's get some buffs. I think the Barb is a pretty adequate "base line" for how good a class should be.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

I can see how they work well together because you can stack buffs and what not; most of my frustration is off of soloing, which besides what Ignatius said, everyone kites Act3/4 as Monk because alone they're not enough. Iunno, solo wise it seems to break the job, but I can see how as a team they function well.

But it feels like Monk=Barb should be the case, not Monk>Barb, and if you compare them (because they are similar), Barb is better in many ways.

But, I'm still going to make it work, I just had to sell 90% of my stuff because I never thought of LoH/Regen + Defensive stuff, so all my gear was really not too hot. I'm a naked Monk, but I've seen that low investment Wizards can tear Inferno apart haha, so I just got to get there to farm.

 

[Hylian]

I can see how they work well together because you can stack buffs and what not; most of my frustration is off of soloing, which besides what Ignatius said, everyone kites Act3/4 as Monk because alone they're not enough. Iunno, solo wise it seems to break the job, but I can see how as a team they function well.

But it feels like Monk=Barb should be the case, not Monk>Barb, and if you compare them (because they are similar), Barb is better in many ways.

But, I'm still going to make it work, I just had to sell 90% of my stuff because I never thought of LoH/Regen + Defensive stuff, so all my gear was really not too hot. I'm a naked Monk, but I've seen that low investment Wizards can tear Inferno apart haha, so I just got to get there to farm.

This just isn't true in my experience. I play with 3 different monks and all of them farm act 3 inferno perfectly fine without kiting everything around. If anything barbs need to kite way more than monks because they blow two minute cooldowns or 30 second cooldowns depending on their gear. I don't need to kite after the patch but I certainly was before.

 

[Divinokage]

Kal, being a true warrior is always beneficial in every way. They are strong, they can buff parties, they can take hits. That's what you get for not being one.

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

Talking as a team or solo though? As a team I have no doubt, I just mean solo

 

[Divinokage]

I wouldn't see any reason why any class shouldnt be able to solo properly when played right. I mean more like movement wise and using your moves at the right time.

Spec wise, it still sucks you cant do exactly what you want for where you are.

 

[rokimomi]

Everyone is viable with gear, that is simply diablo, no character sucks. Some are more expensive than others though, doesn't make them less viable.

 

[Kal]

Kal, being a true warrior is always beneficial in every way. They are strong, they can buff parties, they can take hits. That's what you get for not being one.

Barbarism is bad, Kage. Let's not kid ourselves.

 

[Divinokage]

Barbarism is bad, Kage. Let's not kid ourselves.

That depends what you do, in battle, it's totally ok.

 

[Ignatius]

Dumb Q, what is LoH?

How did you use Fist of Thunder and Deadly Reach? Just Alternate?

How did that fare in Act3/4?

Life on Hit.

Act 3 its fine, it's just a bit too slow and inefficient for farming. Haven't really tried act 4 yet cause the loot is fine in 2 and 3. Although I probably should try act 4 at some point, I here its much more ideal for melee over act 3, but things are kind of trivial now with the weapon I have.

Mostly use Fist of Thunder, you just need to use the third hit of reach every 3-4 seconds just to keep it up.

...are you the dude that was running with me and Tinderbox yesterday?

Yeah.

 

[Hylian]

Also, sick find iggy.


Edit: Fiery Brimstones recently went from 20k for one to 71k lol. Now is a good time to sell.

 

[Kal]

That depends what you do, in battle, it's totally ok.

I would not expect a savage barbarian who styles himself a "warrior" to understand.

 

[Player-3]

kal i can no longer consider you a man

 

[Kal]

Seems like a somewhat disproportionate response to playful banter, but I understand and accept your opinion.

 

[Matt07]

Recently found Natalaya's Cloak, so I earned 2.4m from that . About time I got a good drop.

Also started playing Hardcore, just beat Normal with a Monk. I really like the class more than my Demon Hunter, I feel like Monk's have more variety with skills, but that might change in Inferno lol.

 

[Kal]

I got Natalya's Redemption. Such a mediocre item.

 

[Sharky]

think it's worth much with the level req. reduction?

 

[Divinokage]

Could be fun to have at low level. =P

Also I have about 22 hours played, just checked now, I'm in the middle of Act 2 Hell HC.

 

[Hylian]

think it's worth much with the level req. reduction?

Worth about 10k.

 

[KarmaJolt]

Does anyone actually even use two-handed weapons? Seems like kind of a punt to me, since one-handers are usually comparable in terms of DPS, and having a shield makes you fancy. Maybe I wouldn't know, since I only really play a wizard.

 

[DallasPhat]

Well due to the attack speed nerf, a lot of wizards are aiming for a slow 2 hander (around 1500-1600 dps) and huge crit damage/crit chance now. I still believe a 1 hander + orb > 2 hander due to the stats you can have on your offhand.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I dont think the market for sub-lvl60 items is doing anything but shrinking.

 

[Deleted member]

Zombie bears is completely glitched now, certain bits of terrain bug them out and they not only freeze, but do no damage when they freeze.

Splinters were nerfed into the ground, my aspd went from 3.0 to 2.0, so blasting minions down before they get to you is a huge problem without lacuni prowlers.

Basically... if you aren't already at end-game with your wd, reroll so you can get in on the farmfest that is inferno right now.

lol

time to never play again or play another ****ing ****ty blizzard game

GGs leaving with the 12 cents i made in ah