P.c. Chris
Smash Lord
cort's friend has the best mario. i forget his name. LOL
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I beat DJNintendo 2-0 at MM11. I don't doubt that Boss is good, but I'm not expecting to have my mind blown or anything. Doesn't he play Brawl now anyway?I'd say it's between him, Boss, Green Mario, and Eggz![]()
You of all people should know I'm an ******* on boards.Dude.
You couldn't possibly be more patronizing.
meh. when i played him at pound 3 he wasnt anything special, unless he got better since then, which i hope he has cuz i have tooHave you ever played Boss? He'll make you think Mario is top tier.
yup, hands downDJnintendo the best mario son.
yup, hands downwell said dave
I could not have said it better myself
hm... i should... isnt there a tsa meeting this weekend as well?Trademark should bring CT and whoever else dwn to Alukards tournament this Saturday. North NJ son, lol no car johns like at Smashtality. Nah but really you should come dwn. Its less of a drive than the Tunes biweeklys
if your going somewhere smash related and wouldnt mind giving a lift let me know! ill (of course) come to you as close as i can so u dont have to go to Eh to get me >.< (also ill help the gas yay)hm... i should... isnt there a tsa meeting this weekend as well?
something like that..umm maybe sunday? Too much power rangers in that thread, I cnt keep up let alone figure out whats happeninghm... i should... isnt there a tsa meeting this weekend as well?
What.What.Too much power rangers in that thread
haha yea its a lil confusing, however, after being in this thread for so long, u get used to itsomething like that..umm maybe sunday? Too much power rangers in that thread, I cnt keep up let alone figure out whats happening
Woo! ZoSo feelin' the love!I haven't written any non-serious posts in awhile. Here goes:
I'm never eating at Burger King ever again. Somebody please hit me if I even think about it.
On a related note, I went to T.G.I. Fridays the other night and had the best burger I've ever eaten.
I'm going to Six Flags tomorrow. Any rides I can't afford to miss? Speaking of which, KevinM is too tall for the Superman, but snuck on and rode it anyway.
I didn't get to play Smash today, but my girlfriend told me she loves me for the first time, so I guess that'll do. I want to play with some people next week. Any takers?
And yeah, good **** @ EVO.
I like to spam sometimes.I think it would be incredibly interesting if the Smash community started to resemble the Street Fighter community as time wears on. Honestly, I don't think it would take much more than a few of the old schoolers actually stepping up to the plate and hosting tournaments. Melee has a lot of life left in it, and even though I'm not crazy about Brawl, it's not going anywhere any time soon.
The post got entirely messed up Gizmo.....It wasnt all towards Marth. In fact, most of it was pretty equal...it just got messed up. I'll send you my chart if youd like...smashboards is just....gay.your post doesn't look right when displayed in thread.
Also, you overrate marth by like, a lot (neutral on ftilt, marth advantage on jab, marth advantage on neutral air, marth advantage on recovery, wtf...). And also rating like, spikes over something actually useful like dash speed or dash dancing ability is pointles... Not that I agree with the methodology, but if you're going to use a chart like that to rate stuff, you need to make it better.
You're incredible my friend and a great writer. What you are saying is pretty much true. To tell you the truth I have taken the initiative to host Melee tournaments because I love the game. I dont want Melee to die. I kick myself in the head every time I play Melee because I stopped playing for a good 3-4 months to prepare for "Brawl" which made me lose time that I could use to be better than I am now. I know that I have not been in the Smash community for long but I WAS here long enough to know what the Melee scene was like VS the Brawl scene. It was a much more friendly environment, people didnt get pissed off when they lost in Melee....it was all in good fun. I was happy to get owned in Melee because I lost when I deserved to and I still do to this day. In Melee you know when you should have won....and when you should have lost and 9 times out of 10...its YOUR FAULT that you did not lose. With Brawl you lose to people who simply just camp, shield or aggressively camp. Thats why i cant stand Brawl because I lose to people who I should be beating. In Melee if you are TRULY smarter than the other person, you will win. In Brawl, too much bull crap happens that saves you and is associated with luck.The End
I was talking to my friend Rich today (he goes by The Dragon on the boards), and we were discussing what has been going on in the CT thread the last few days: the talks about power rankings and tier lists and all the other fun stuff that we do from time to time between our usual spasms of spam. But while I was talking to him, I came to a disturbing but unavoidable conclusion. I believe that competitive Smash in CT is dead. That's a pretty bold statement, and not one that I take any pleasure in making, but I will try to outline my reasoning for believing this.
To understand the death of competitive Smash in CT, one must first understand its life. CT Smash is a unique creature. Unlike the more competitive tournament communities in New York and New Jersey, CT Smash has always been more about friends getting together to play a game together that they enjoy. This is evidenced by the lack of any formal competitive structure. Both NY and NJ have weekly or bi-weekly events where money is paid and brackets are created. CT's closest analogous events (both Vernon, Capital and other attempts) have neither charged money nor produced brackets, and attendance to both has been underwhelming.
This is because of the nature of the CT Smasher. While everyone in CT wants to win, we're not necessarily competitive enough to charge money for what could easily be a free event. Our biggest meet-ups occur in each other's homes, as opposed to some third-party venue. We are all friends, but our friendship often transcends our competitive nature, and sandbagging in friendlies is almost expected. Smash itself tends to lend itself to a friendlier, more easy-going community, and this attitude is magnified in CT. We all know that there are several CT Smashers who could easily attain prominence on a regional, if not national, level, if only they'd "take the game more seriously". Well, they just don't want to. We compete because it's fun, not necessarily to be able to point at power rankings or tournament result and say that Player A is better than Player B. In my opinion, that decision to put friendship over competition has led to the best Smash community in the entire country (as evidenced by the involvement of people far and wide in our thread), but it has cost us in the competitive sense of the game.
Speaking of our thread, just look at it. The discussion over the last few days has been an anomaly, not the norm. We have over 1000 pages, and I'd say it's fair to say that less than 10% of it is actually dedicated to Smash tactics and strategy. While New York and New Jersey are planning a crew battle against Maryland and Virginia, we CTers pore over the daily happenings of each other's lives. That's what makes CT so great, but just not in Smash.
It's no wonder that in the last few pages of discussion, the power rankings that have been suggested are dominated by those that are willing to travel out of state. The CT competitive Smash scene is in limbo right now. Melee tournaments are non-existent, and Brawl tournaments suffer from fitful attendance. In the last four Brawl tournaments listed on SWF, the five best Brawl players have not been at the same tournament at the same time (for argument's sake, I'd consider Cort, Catfight, Noodles, Prince of Fire and Solid Jake the best). In fact, OmegaBlackMage, a player from Massachusetts, has entered more of the last four Brawl tournaments in CT than all of these people combined (OBM has been to all four, the five people I listed combine for only three). There wasn't a single person from CT that placed in the top 25 at XIIesticle. This is not my opinion, these are facts.
So what conclusion can we draw from this data? It's pretty simple. As far as Melee is concerned, there cannot be a tournament scene where no tournaments exist. And for Brawl, the best people aren't attending tournaments; in fact, almost no one from CT is attending CT tournaments on a regular basis. Smash is alive and well in CT, as evidenced by the spirited discussion in the last few pages. Smash competitively, on the other hand, is looking pretty grim.
The trend is not limited to only CT though, although I think it's most prevalent here. OBM made the comment that the Northeast in general is lagging far behind the rest of the country in Smash, and I think he's right. Take a look at NE tournaments lately. Mass Madness had average attendance. Participation in CT Brawl tournaments has been sporadic. The Northeast has two tournaments on the East Coast Regional Circuit, while Maryland and Virginia have three between them. Our best and brightest Smashers are either in semi-retirement, are boycotting Brawl or just don't care. Part of this is due to the awkward transition from Melee to Brawl, but that doesn't account for all of it. We're also all growing up, taking on greater challenges and responsibilities in our lives, and don't particularly have the motivation to spend an entire day at a tournament, or to drive for hours to reach one. There's nothing wrong with that, but of course, it leads to the decline of the tournament aspect of the community.
So what do we do about this? Frankly, who says we have to do anything? Part of the conclusion I came to today is that Smash is different than it was in 2007. I now believe that year was not only the peak for Melee, but the peak for the entire Smash community, at least in the Northeast. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. Some would argue that the center of Smash has always been either the West Coast or MD/VA, but I don't buy that. I do think that they are becoming so, as tournaments shift south, such as Critical Hit, FAST 1 and The Greatest Melee Tournament Since Brawl. It may be gravity, it may be a dedication to Smash down there that doesn't exist here anymore, it may be the warmer weather. Who knows? All I know is that there are no Melee tournaments in CT anymore.
And that's not necessarily bad, just different. I'm not going to try to fight the tides, or try to convince people to spend their day in a stinky, smelly, overcrowded lan center, because I'm sure that everyone has their reasons for not attending or hosting tournaments anymore, just as I do. This is not only the evolution of the community, but the people within it as well. I'll always love Smash, but I already have my eye on another game that I'm much more interested in pursuing competitively. As long as cool people want to get together and play Smash and have a good time, I'll be there.
Which, ironically, is how we got where we are today.
Johns.good post jam. my reason for not attending many tournaments is lack of money/rides
The Best Post Ever. My respect for you just went up 10 notches. I feel the EXACT SAME WAY. You just posted what i've been trying to say for like 3 months. I Love You hahaI loved MD/VA in the Melee days. Now, not so much. Now it's the region with the most MK and Snake users, every tourny I have been to I have been knocked out by one or two MKs I'm not even kidding. I've seen more rivalries than friendships form here since Brawl came out, and it's because people get far more upset when they lose in Brawl than when they did in Melee.
In Melee, when you lost, you knew it was because you're opponent outsmarted and outplayed you. They either surpassed you in technical skill or mindgames or both. But in Brawl, you can lose to people worse than you due to the amount of luck and bs that takes place during a Brawl match. Not to mention the broken nature of defending in this game gives a huge advantage to the person running away, and not the one attacking.
So when you lose to someone you knew you should not have, you get very angry. Angry that you tripped into an f smash, angry that they camped the entire match, angry that you know you would easily four stock them in Melee. Such things go through people's minds when they lose a match.
I know I get this way when I lose to a random scrub in Brawl. I get very angry when it's tourny and their gay, pathetic playstyle payed off. I never felt this way about Melee. No matter how many matches I lost, no matter how many times I was gimped at 0%, I always walked away from a match with a smile on my face for the experience. I have more fun getting 4 stocked by M2k than playing Brawl. That says something.
Jam is one of my favorite smashers as well and a great friend too.I love Jam's writing. It is also very true, I love CT and wouldn't want it any other way. >_<
Thanks man, that means a lot to me.Uhh...
Well, my most discouraging Brawl moment...
was when I got gayed out of a set against PoF at RG3.
<_< I just floated into the loser's bracket and sandbagged into some stupid KOs from a 9 year old GaW player.
:3 Not gonna lie, I love playing the likes of Wes/Noodles/PoF/Cort/Jam/JV/Aesir/Modest/etc. in both melee and Brawl. They're my friends and stuff, and it really rocks.
XD I've never been a really competitive person, its not in my nature. I can't even trash talk. :3.
XD If I have friends, that's what'll keep me happy with this game.
Wow, are you kidding me? Do you have a problem with me or something? Every time you mention me all you do is talk crap about me.that evo link was the scrubbiest thing i've seen since POFs post about melee teams not requiring skill
i have no problem with you or anyone else.Wow, are you kidding me? Do you have a problem with me or something? Every time you mention me all you do is talk crap about me.
In Melee, why does Peach's bair beat Samus's Power Missles? Why does it take one of Shiek's needles to stop Samus's fully charged shot? Why can Sheik jab Link's Bombs?Dazwa-You told me the other day that when I missed my Marth f smash the Pit Dsmash was a good choice for my opponent, correct? Please explain how a CAPTAIN FALCON JAB clinks with a Pit fsmash or how a Kirby Fair stops a TOON LINK BOMB AND THEN FALLS STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. (Ask Dr. Super about that if you do not believe me.)
i'm definitely not the best melee sheik in new england, but considering how late you came into the community im not surprised you don't know the two people above me...Dazwa and Darc-The best Sheik and jigs that I can think of in the area goes to you too. I'm happy to know Darc that you use Marth in Brawl at least.Make my name proud! You're both really cool and I wish I knew you both a little better. Maybe next time?
You were in the finals with PC at one of the last Melee tournaments (if not, the last) at Digital Mayhem. Your Sheik was sick.i'm definitely not the best melee sheik in new england, but considering how late you came into the community im not surprised you don't know the two people above me...
Being in the winners finals against PC because of an easy bracket and Cort having an off day doesn't change the fact KDJ and Hayato both have better Melee sheiks than I do.You were in the finals with PC at one of the last Melee tournaments (if not, the last) at Digital Mayhem. Your Sheik was sick.
Gawd, Dylan is way too modest.Being in the winners finals against PC because of an easy bracket and Cort having an off day doesn't change the fact KDJ and Hayato both have better Melee sheiks than I do.
Yeah they really were. Weird.Those matches were so much better, Cog. Off to work.
I beat Elen on Japes and he is alot better than me. So yeah.any tournament that has jaaaaaapes on is a joooooooke
TRUTHThe scene isn't dying. The five best players from CT don't represent the entire state. How many Brawl tournaments have there been in CT over the last two months? Five or six? It's not uncommon to have multiple tournaments happening in CT on the same weekend. That's more than we ever had in the past by a longshot, even when Melee was in full swing. The second to last Mass Madness had over 100 entrants for Brawl. The fact of the matter is that Brawl IS immensely popular. It's no secret that a lot of old school players don't like it, but it is undoubtedly attracting new players en masse.
Also, I think it's worth pointing out that New England never had a regular tournament series resembling New York and MD/VA's biweeklies. The closest we ever had was the San brothers' tournaments at their house, which averaged like 15 people. Honestly, Melee isn't any more in decline here than it is anywhere else. I acknowledged that months ago.
Personally, I don't have any plans of "quitting" Smash anytime in the immediate future, but I will say that it really sucks to prefer Melee with the way things are going.
I think it would be incredibly interesting if the Smash community started to resemble the Street Fighter community as time wears on. Honestly, I don't think it would take much more than a few of the old schoolers actually stepping up to the plate and hosting tournaments. Melee has a lot of life left in it, and even though I'm not crazy about Brawl, it's not going anywhere any time soon.
WTF I am so jealous... a free Hammond... wtfGG's Jam nice IC's and your TL got better since I last played it.
So the best thing happened today. I was driving and saw a free working hammond organ on the side of the road with reverb vibrato...everything it's a wiltz. I called my uncle to bring his truck I'm so excited I wanted to buy one badly but I'm too broke.
I hate college. I'm going to Porter and Chester this october instead. Pretty excited.
Good thing those 2 don't play anymore.Being in the winners finals against PC because of an easy bracket and Cort having an off day doesn't change the fact KDJ and Hayato both have better Melee sheiks than I do.
dazwa is too friggin' goot. also so is iron chef LOL i've been watching it all day x_x the old school japanese ones though :D *fat*
speaking of iron chef
iron chief
speaking of iron chief
**** hard
speaking of **** hard
the MMMHMMMHMMMHMMHMMM guy from that video plays brawl, and wants to attend the next maine tournament we run
MMMMHMMMHMMHM
I totally read it as Iron Chief too. Speaking of Iron Chief, he's too good.*Dazwa noise*
Iron Chief is 3 good.
You take that back! There can never be too much power rangers.{words} Too much power rangers in that thread {other words}
CongratsI didn't get to play Smash today, but my girlfriend told me she loves me for the first time, so I guess that'll do.
Yes, preferably not Monday or Tuesday, but any other day is good.I want to play with some people next week. Any takers?
This.Also, the scene isn't dying, milktea. You just grew out of it, I guess.
It's the same thing in Melee, whether you realize it or not.With Brawl you lose to people who simply just camp, shield or aggressively camp.
No johns.Thats why i cant stand Brawl because I lose to people who I should be beating. In Melee if you are TRULY smarter than the other person, you will win. In Brawl, too much bull crap happens that saves you and is associated with luck.
Any ground attack will clink with any ground attack. This has ALWAYS been the case, save maybe a few exceptions like Fox's usmash in Melee, which will often clink and then connect anyway (that makes a TON of sense).Dazwa-You told me the other day that when I missed my Marth f smash the Pit Dsmash was a good choice for my opponent, correct? Please explain how a CAPTAIN FALCON JAB clinks with a Pit fsmash or how a Kirby Fair stops a TOON LINK BOMB AND THEN FALLS STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND. (Ask Dr. Super about that if you do not believe me.)
Don't you just agree with me. Don't you EVER agree with me.TRUTH
I know I'll be free on Wednesday, but other than that, I have no clue.Yes, preferably not Monday or Tuesday, but any other day is good.
I need to play Trademark and Mike Money, too, so let me know the next time yall are playing so that I can get in on that.
lol is it because of the awful commentary or ken getting killed by a ROB final smash in a championship match?These Evo vids are hurting my mind.