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Congratulations, Min Min! ARMS character(s) for Smash discussion

Which character do think will be revealed in June?

  • Spring Man

    Votes: 54 16.3%
  • Ribbon Girl

    Votes: 12 3.6%
  • Ninjara

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Mechanica

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Master Mummy

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Min Min

    Votes: 104 31.4%
  • Helix

    Votes: 7 2.1%
  • Kid Cobra

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Byte & Barq

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Twintelle

    Votes: 25 7.6%
  • Max Brass

    Votes: 18 5.4%
  • Lola Pop

    Votes: 7 2.1%
  • Spring Tron

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Misango

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dr. Coyle

    Votes: 19 5.7%
  • Biff

    Votes: 8 2.4%
  • Combination of 2 or more interchangeable characters

    Votes: 66 19.9%
  • Other (specify in thread)

    Votes: 3 0.9%

  • Total voters
    331
  • Poll closed .

Guynamednelson

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I still think Spring Man is a very strong candidate.
But there is a 0.00001 percent chance that disabling the Spring Man AT while someone is playing as him will take more work than all of FP1 plus Piranha Plant combined! We can't risk it!
 

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The thing about Spring Man is that if he's the pick, he'll break a bunch of fan rules all in one fell swoop. Which would be so wild for speculation, I both do and do not want it to happen.
 

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Right. They definitely have to be similar enough proportions, and for it to make sense at least.

I really wonder what they went with.
Well, we'll find out within the next 24 days.
 

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It's likely we'll be seeing which ARMS character will make it to Smash Ultimate in, at least, a few days or, at most, a couple of weeks!
I'm curious which character you think it will be, and of the remaining slots for Fighter Pass 2, who do you want in?



For the ARMS rep, I'm tied with 3 choices:
- Min Min
- Twintelle
- A :ulthero: or :ultbowserjr: scenario where one is the main choice & the other 3 or 7 are alternates.



As for the remaining 5 characters in FP2, here's who I want:
- Crash Bandicoot
- Rillaboom
- Tifa
- Geno
- Doomguy



Feel free to discuss who you hope will be in.
 

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The thing about Spring Man is that if he's the pick, he'll break a bunch of fan rules all in one fell swoop. Which would be so wild for speculation, I both do and do not want it to happen.
Regardless who it is, a fan rule or more being broken is pretty much inevitable at this point. The announcement itself was the start, proving that a property released in 2017 could still get playable representation despite suffering from bad timing for the base roster.

It's saying something when a character that's not the main, with no existing spirit, would be the possibility that breaks the least amount of fan rules.
 
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It's likely we'll be seeing which ARMS character will make it to Smash Ultimate in, at least, a few days or, at most, a couple of weeks!
I'm curious which character you think it will be, and of the remaining slots for Fighter Pass 2, who do you want in?



For the ARMS rep, I'm tied with 3 choices:
- Min Min
- Twintelle
- A :ulthero: or :ultbowserjr: scenario where one is the main choice & the other 3 or 7 are alternates.



As for the remaining 5 characters in FP2, here's who I want:
- Crash Bandicoot
- Rillaboom
- Tifa
- Geno
- Doomguy



Feel free to discuss who you hope will be in.
I'm thinking it's Min Min but this thread really isn't necessary.
 

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Dr. Coyle would break the "villain/antagonist can't be in before the hero" rule so that would be fun to see if it happens.
 

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Regardless who it is, a fan rule or more being broken is pretty much inevitable at this point. The announcement itself was the start, proving that a property released in 2017 could still get playable representation despite suffering from bad timing for the base roster.

It's saying something when a character that's not the main, with no existing spirit, would be the possibility that breaks the least amount of fan rules.
Tbh I don't really think that are any other characters who comply to the 2017 properly getting playable representation due to how specific it is aside from Rex. BotW has a sequel so they may as well pick someone from that if so and Snipperclips is the only NEW one which could happen even though it probably won't
 

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Yeah it goes without saying that "rules" will be broken no matter what. However, if it ends up being Ribbon Girl the least amount of fan rules will be broken. Why?

1. She's still technically the mascot. Both Spring Man AND Ribbon Girl are presented as the mascot with Spring Man having a bit more of mascot power than her. But she's definitely there beside him a lot of the time. So the "Mascot/ Protagonist First" rule will still sorta apply.

2. She's only a costume/spirit and not an Assist. So the "No Assist Trophies" rule will still apply.

The only "rule" she would break is the "Spirits Can't Be Fighters" rule which many people didn't follow anyway.
 
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The thing about Spring Man is that if he's the pick, he'll break a bunch of fan rules all in one fell swoop. Which would be so wild for speculation, I both do and do not want it to happen.
Spring Man would break the most rules but all other characters would break at least one. That's what makes this character speculation particularly spicey

Damn you almost gave me a heart attack. I misread your post at first and thought you said "within the next 24 hours." instead of "24 days."
Sorry about that.
 

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Dr. Coyle would break the "villain/antagonist can't be in before the hero" rule so that would be fun to see if it happens.
And come on, they said we will get an Arms representative. The director of the ARMS lab is obviously the best for this!

:p

I really want to see Coyle with Dr. Doom's footdive. From a green doctor to another. I want to see more traditional fighting game inspirations in moveset in general in fact. Seeing Ken's MvsC Shinryuken being referenced by Sakurai, Incineroar's neutral and Up Special or Dhalsim being mentionned when talking about Corrin... I really want to see Sakurai going for more fighting game inspiration.
 

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I can't believe I haven't thought about it that much before but Ribbon Girl might be the safest choice (as listed above). They could even imitate the ARMS boxart in the trailer where she knocks Spring Man out and takes his spot in Smash.

They really might go with her if they think Spring Man is a problem. Not because they can't make Spring Man a fighter (because they easily could) but maybe they're worried about the can of worms it might open. Sakurai is always dealing with horrible people on Twitter, and in most recent times, people upset over Waluigi were the worse. It's possible he doesn't want to summon another flood of people begging to have their AT of choice get the same treatment as Spring Man.

In my opinion, if they don't go with Spring Man it's going to be Ribbon Girl.
 

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And come on, they said we will get an Arms representative. The director of the ARMS lab is obviously the best for this!

:p

I really want to see Coyle with Dr. Doom's footdive. From a green doctor to another. I want to see more traditional fighting game inspirations in moveset in general in fact. Seeing Ken's MvsC Shinryuken being referenced by Sakurai, Incineroar's neutral and Up Special or Dhalsim being mentionned when talking about Corrin... I really want to see Sakurai going for more fighting game inspiration.
Wouldn't it be inevitable that the ARMS fighter would be somewhat similar to Dhalsim?
 

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Wouldn't it be inevitable that the ARMS fighter would be somewhat similar to Dhalsim?
Yeah, there will be some "Dhalsim" involved for sure. That's part of why I want Coyle even: she can get his floatiness, teleport, yoga fire through Lokjaw projectiles and even yoga flame, if you look at the energy ball Coyle makes during her grab. And as an extra, she would probably be light, like Mewtwo and Rosalina, to balance the character considering the range, like Dhalsim who have low health.

Of course, we don't need to just make Dhalsim and copy him, but Coyle have the perfect ingredients to make a true Dhalsim archetype in Smash.
 

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It's likely we'll be seeing which ARMS character will make it to Smash Ultimate in, at least, a few days or, at most, a couple of weeks!
I'm curious which character you think it will be, and of the remaining slots for Fighter Pass 2, who do you want in?



For the ARMS rep, I'm tied with 3 choices:
- Min Min
- Twintelle
- A :ulthero: or :ultbowserjr: scenario where one is the main choice & the other 3 or 7 are alternates.



As for the remaining 5 characters in FP2, here's who I want:
- Crash Bandicoot
- Rillaboom
- Tifa
- Geno
- Doomguy



Feel free to discuss who you hope will be in.
TTF, your thread to discuss which ARMS characters who will be making an appearance was moved into the general ARMS newcomer thread. If you wish to discuss your other wanted characters, please use the Newcomer Discussion thread.
https://smashboards.com/threads/newcomer-dlc-speculation-discussion.453424/latest
 
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Tbh I don't really think that are any other characters who comply to the 2017 properly getting playable representation due to how specific it is aside from Rex. BotW has a sequel so they may as well pick someone from that if so and Snipperclips is the only NEW one which could happen even though it probably won't
In before it's Zelda, after she's fully transitioned from being a researcher into a bona fide adventurer. :4pacman:

I can't believe I haven't thought about it that much before but Ribbon Girl might be the safest choice (as listed above). They could even imitate the ARMS boxart in the trailer where she knocks Spring Man out and takes his spot in Smash.

They really might go with her if they think Spring Man is a problem. Not because they can't make Spring Man a fighter (because they easily could) but maybe they're worried about the can of worms it might open. Sakurai is always dealing with horrible people on Twitter, and in most recent times, people upset over Waluigi were the worse. It's possible he doesn't want to summon another flood of people begging to have their AT of choice get the same treatment as Spring Man.

In my opinion, if they don't go with Spring Man it's going to be Ribbon Girl.
Considering how he said he won't talk about what games he's recently playing anymore, for the third time, I think he's clearly used to that sort of thing by now. At worst, he'd just laugh it off or go "now don't expect every AT to get an upgrade", I mean we recently joked about how unreasonable that would be.

I mean, Sak isn't a teenager that easily gets bullied by words, he can take the heat. If anything, it's NOA that keeps getting the brunt of flaming from what's likely to actually be a few loud individuals that make most of the supporters look bad.
 
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I can't believe I haven't thought about it that much before but Ribbon Girl might be the safest choice (as listed above). They could even imitate the ARMS boxart in the trailer where she knocks Spring Man out and takes his spot in Smash.

They really might go with her if they think Spring Man is a problem. Not because they can't make Spring Man a fighter (because they easily could) but maybe they're worried about the can of worms it might open. Sakurai is always dealing with horrible people on Twitter, and in most recent times, people upset over Waluigi were the worse. It's possible he doesn't want to summon another flood of people begging to have their AT of choice get the same treatment as Spring Man.

In my opinion, if they don't go with Spring Man it's going to be Ribbon Girl.
The poor guy has to even hide what games he plays now so it'll be interesting to see what he plans here.
 

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I'm fairly certain we'll get the reveals sometime in the next 5 days, but if not, worst case scenario is probably the third week of June, which isn't bad at all
 
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And come on, they said we will get an Arms representative. The director of the ARMS lab is obviously the best for this!

:p

I really want to see Coyle with Dr. Doom's footdive. From a green doctor to another. I want to see more traditional fighting game inspirations in moveset in general in fact. Seeing Ken's MvsC Shinryuken being referenced by Sakurai, Incineroar's neutral and Up Special or Dhalsim being mentionned when talking about Corrin... I really want to see Sakurai going for more fighting game inspiration.
I'd honestly like to see how Sakurai tackles a traditional fighting game at this point.
 

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I'd honestly like to see how Sakurai tackles a traditional fighting game at this point.
I figure that the difficulty would still be affected by how well you're doing. That'd throw off anyone expecting to muscle through the hardest modes.

I'm fairly certain we'll get the reveals we'll get the reveal(s) sometime in the next 5 days, but if not, worst case scenario is probably the third week of June, which isn't bad at all
Any time between now and the 1st of July seems like fair game to me.
 
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There was a problem fetching the tweet

Speaking of release dates, PushDustIn gave his two cents on what's goin' on right now.
 

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There was a problem fetching the tweet

Speaking of release dates, PushDustIn gave his two cents on what's goin' on right now.
Uh no, Sakurai didn't mention Covid-19 regarding the delay for the ARMS fighter, it was technical issues. The fighter will be released when they feel ready
 

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Don't personally know what would stop them from revealing it from home especially an trailer? I could see FP7 being delayed but definitely not the ARMS rep.
 
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He said "the next character". Meaning the fighter after ARMS. I can believe that. If the ARMS character was delayed they would have told us by now. I think the ARMS fighter will be on schedule. But the other guys might take a little longer.
 

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Hey, you know how they said it was a "Special Request"?

Well, what if the reason they call it a special request is that this is actually a tribute to the late Etika, who was no doubt one of the biggest figures of the Smash community, and, if memory serves correctly, a big Min Min fan. Sakurai is no doubt aware of the activities of this community, for better or worse, and what was one of the most noteworthy Etika-related things that he's done? Retweet his reaction to Mewtwo back in the Smash 4 days. I have the feeling that if this was an ARMS character that was a special request, then it being Min Min as a tribute to one of the biggest hype-men of the Smash community would be a no-brainer.

Now I'm not saying that this is true, just throwing around a possibility.
 

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Besides, it would get hard to make any new FE main character inclusions stand out after a while, when they don't get gimmicks like Corrin or Robin.

At the very least, any other additional ARMS characters would get the :ultisabelle: treatment if they're noteworthy enough.



And THAT is the only thing I'll agree with. I'm looking forward to the day when the reveal gets everyone to shut up about this.
Who said I was wanting a FE swordfighter? Well, okay, I could think of one, but I wasn't referring to one. Course, the thing for me, is so long as they have unique moves, why does it matter? People don't complain about too many melee fighters. Let's be honest though, most of the time they probably really mean too many FE fighters cause who's complaining about Cloud? Or unironically requesting Sora and/or Dante.
The biggest brain move would be to have the fighter turn into Springtron whenever a Springman Assist Trophy spawns. Clearly that would be easier than disabling Springman's AT.
Or just change the assist into Springtron all the time.
 

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Rosalina wasn't leaked either, IIRC, unless you count people being able to skip forward in the Direct she was revealed in about ~30 seconds or so somehow as the trailer was beginning and saw her in the video preview right before she was revealed. I don't think I'm remembering that exactly right, but that was a fun wild experience here on Smashboards at the time
To be fair, I was speaking in the context of the ESRB leak. Out of everyone that wasn't officially revealed by Nintendo themselves (i.e post-Lucina/Robin/Captain Falcon), I'm pretty sure that Alph was the one character that Nintendo themselves were able to formally reveal via Sakurai's PotD on Miiverse around that time period.

That said, you're right that Rosalina was pretty much the only other character who wasn't leaked in any manner. Actually, I'm pretty sure we can also add Lucina and Robin to that list too.
 

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What if it's two ARMS reps coming to Smash, explaining the fighter pack having 6 slots? Since she created the Party Crash in-lore, what if we still get Dr. Coyle but the winner of the crash (MinMin) also, revealing a smash invite to hang with the rad scientist herself was the prize all along? And that way too the hero/villain schtick will even out.
 

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What if it's two ARMS reps coming to Smash, explaining the fighter pack having 6 slots? Since she created the Party Crash in-lore, what if we still get Dr. Coyle but the winner of the crash (MinMin) also, revealing a smash invite to hang with the rad scientist herself was the prize all along? And that way too the hero/villain schtick will even out.
Nintendo doesn't need to "even out" heroes and villains. The first pass had no antagonists whatsoever.
 

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Nintendo doesn't need to "even out" heroes and villains. The first pass had no antagonists whatsoever.
With Smash, it's always the heroes making their debut first. The unnatural position ARMS is in having it's top stars already in trophy/spirit form requires unnatural talk of unnatural suggestions. Were this third party, it wouldn't come to mind but because it's a Nintendo IP so late to the party here, what if they wanted this process sped up not wanting to wait 'til next Smash (if there will be another one)? Ya never know.
 

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He said "the next character". Meaning the fighter after ARMS. I can believe that. If the ARMS character was delayed they would have told us by now. I think the ARMS fighter will be on schedule. But the other guys might take a little longer.
While this is just speculating, I wonder if a planned Third-Party character will be pushed further back into the pass due to delay issues and someone else will be brought forward? It's interesting to think about.
 

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"Unnatural?" Unusual might be more accurate, but, come on, a PNG should mean even less than the assist which we have discussed should be more than doable. For stuff like that, it's clearly not undoable. The intent behind them may be key. However, the intent behind much of that may very well be obsolete now as pass 2 may have not been planned at the time. So, Spring Man being added as an assist due to scheduling may not apply anymore, and it certainly shouldn't be beyond their technical ability to work around it. And let's face it, if the assist did not exist, would there be any serious doubt as to who the fighter was going to be?
 
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