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COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda
- Thread starter kupo15
- Start date
kupo15
Smash Hero
well, its not the camera codes that's for sure. It might be the deadlands code. I'm not sure though
Revven
FrankerZ
I haven't had any issues either, I played online with the set just fine yesterday sooo... maybe it's your Wii? >_>
grim mouser
Smash Journeyman
I used Brawl Gecko without incident. I wasn't using Deadlands.
Could someone link to the set? I haven't even seen the Deadlands code around.
Could someone link to the set? I haven't even seen the Deadlands code around.
wazgood
Smash Ace
IM_A_HUSTLA
Smash Journeyman
i need 4.0 thats not all jumbled like the one above
Yeah, same here.
I can't read either TXT file.
kupo15
Smash Hero
New code, we can change electric hitlag. I also moved the 1 line tech code to beta section
I'm confused as to what we can do with it, kupo. The hitlag mod is affecting electric hitlag at the moment, isn't it? I mean, I figured it is since we don't have that Lucas Dsmash problem any more. But then what would we do with this electric hitlag code? Modify electric hitlag independently of the universal hitlag? And if so, for what?
kupo15
Smash Hero
I feel that the electric attacks are still a little too long and disrupts the flow of the game slightly. If you look at the knee and zelda's kicks they still seem a bit too long so this code will allow us to make these attacks smoother and improve the pace of the game without affecting the normal attacks hitlag AND keeping the uniqueness of electrical attacks dealing slightly more hitlag. When I mean slight, I mean that if 3F800000 will make electric hitlag like normal hitlag, then I propose we try 3FA00000 unless this completely overrides the other hitlag code for electrical attacks only in which case we would cut it in half and split the difference between normal and electrical hitlag.
NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT
Smash Journeyman
thats great kupo :D, gonna love that code
also I was wondering if you could seggusted an update version fo that code that has the ID for each element for new hitlag
example
Element Hitlag Modifier
XXNUMBER ZZZZZZZZ
Z = Floating point Value for hitlag
XX = Element to mod hitlag
00 hit
01 none
02 slash
03 electricity
04 Ice
05 Flame
06 Coin
07 Cape
08 Slip
09 Sleep
0A none
0B impale
0C Stun
0E Flower
0F none
10 none
11 slash 2
12 hit 2
13 Darkness
14 Stun
15 Aura
16 Impale 2
17 Down
18 No Flinch
it can have more codes of line, but, I just need/want and I beg for a code like that to be made
Clever_Sleazoid
Smash Apprentice
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Hmm, I liked how whenever you pulled off a knee or Zelda's upskirt the game would basically direct all attention towards that, but it is a bit over the top. I just hope it still keeps that feeling of impact.
kupo15
Smash Hero
The sound effects and such will and it will still have more emphasis than normal attacks, but it won't be as dramatic. Scenic fluff like that doesn't add competitiveness to the game and it detracts from the flow and makes DIing easier to do.
My only fear is Zelda's Usmash. It relies on hitlag in order to land all the hits. The hitlag keeps the opponent in place and thus the next hit of her Usmash hits the opponent before they are sent upwards, and then refreshes the hitlag. This happens up to the last hit of the Usmash, which is the KB hit. It already happens at 50% hitlag that Zelda's Usmash has too little hitlag to keep certain opponents in it for the entire duration. If they leave hitlag before the next hit lands, then they get sent upwards before the next hit lands and thus leave the attack before it's complete, always avoiding the final hit, which is the only hit that can KO. It's an electric attack, and I don't want to see it get worse just because Knees and LK's do a quick freeze frame.
grim mouser
Smash Journeyman
Didn't think of that. I was using Notepad.
Death Boundary mod? Hitbox mods?
This is godly. But why the CSS Fix for Giga and Company?
The Fix for Giga and Company is for Independent Pokemon (Correct me if Im wrongDidn't think of that. I was using Notepad.
Death Boundary mod? Hitbox mods?
This is godly. But why the CSS Fix for Giga and Company?
).Actually WordPad works fine too, and it comes standard with Windows iirc.Didn't think of that. I was using Notepad.
Death Boundary mod? Hitbox mods?
This is godly. But why the CSS Fix for Giga and Company?
Apparently Notepad is just the finicky one.
Revven
FrankerZ
Her Usmash is already good enough as it is, she can link THREE of them on most characters in the game, giving a total of 45% (discarding DI, I'm sure if you DI, you can get 30%, which is still a hefty amount to deal). Her Usmash, if anything, deserves the nerf. >_>
She can only link 3 of them like that at the low percentages. When the percentages get higher, if the characters don't get hit by final hit, then the move is made useless, because it'll never kill.
Her linking her 3 Usmashes as an early combo does not warrant the nerf of the move, especially when an even lower than 50% hitlag will cause the move to never kill. The latter is far more problematic than the first.
goodoldganon
Smash Champion
Why not buff the U-smash not only to avoid itself linking into itself but also to give her another vertical KO option.
Revven
FrankerZ
That's the plan, I was just saying that the electric hitlag would be just another nerf to it (doesn't mean it's something we WANT to happen) for the reason I mentioned earlier.
I don't see the need to decrease electric hitlag unless you wanna decrease char specifically (Falcon's knee, Zelda's Bair/Fair) because I don't think ALL electric moves need it (like Ganon's Dair and Ness' Bair for example).
wazgood
Smash Ace
ganon's aerial sideB should have a grounded effect, just long enough to jab. im pretty sure get-up attacks make this useless atm.
Revven
FrankerZ
Once the one liner teching code is fixed, his murder choke will have ALL the options it had before the teching code.
SPUNIT FIX IT PLZ!!! D:
grim mouser
Smash Journeyman
What is different in the one line tech code vs. the Tech Window v 0.5 code?
Hmm...
I remembered I teched a footstool using the longer Tech Fix v0.4. o_O
Also in case Spunit needs to know anything else.
The one liner set to 15 frames allowed me to tech after an airdodge. Which is pretty gay lol.
Magus420
Smash Master
U-Smash doesn't keep them in hitlag the entire time normally.
It hits on 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 23, 25, 27, 29, and 31. The first 10 hits have 4 frames of not SDI-able hitlag and it's an equal amount for both characters, so they move for at least 1 frame between all hits (which allows ASDI because of it). The final hit has 10 frames of hitlag for both characters but is SDI-able unlike the other hits.
The first 10 hits send either up or down depending on where they are, which does a good job of trapping them in it. When they are lower they get sent upwards and when hit higher up they are sent downward.
The pause between the 1st and 2nd wave of hits (the 6th hit->7th hit) is where people normally escape since they get to move for 6 frames of the knockback off of the 6th hit instead of moving for only 1 frame of knockback like on the others. If they get hit high up on that 6th hit but low enough to get the upwards hit on it (ASDIing up on the 6th hit also helps to get a little higher off it) they can get knocked high enough out of range to avoid the 7th hit (and with it the others as well), which would normally pull them back down into the remaining hits. Some characters have a much easier time avoiding the 7th hit and doing this than others. *cough*Marth*cough*
..... 6th hit sends Up ............. 6th hit sends Down
. 6th hit sends Up + Escape
I don't know why the hitlag code would make it easier to escape unless it's only reducing hitlag for the person getting hit or by a larger amount on them for some reason, since normally they both have the same amount and are always stopped at the same times.
Btw, does the hitstun code add enough stun to cause a knockdown on the initial 10 hits (making them DIable)?
leafgreen386
Dirty camper
@SMK: I thought the newest teching code uses brawl's regular teching system? You shouldn't be able to tech his sideB anymore. >_>
@GPDP: The reason the move is worthless in the air right now is actually because of its landlag, I find. You can hit with it and because of that, you'll get hit, yourself, before you can even shield. It's actually a decent option for getting foes off of you when you're being pursued high in the air, and actually, if they're chasing you up there, you usually want the upward hit, which will kill them if they're at a high enough percent. I also actually do use this move as a recovery tool right now, despite not getting the second jump back. So it isn't totally worthless like you put it, but it is true that it's only useful when you're really high up.
@Magus: Unless the weaker hits of zelda's usmash have more than 2096 launch speed, then they shouldn't be sending into the tumble in brawl+.
@GPDP: The reason the move is worthless in the air right now is actually because of its landlag, I find. You can hit with it and because of that, you'll get hit, yourself, before you can even shield. It's actually a decent option for getting foes off of you when you're being pursued high in the air, and actually, if they're chasing you up there, you usually want the upward hit, which will kill them if they're at a high enough percent. I also actually do use this move as a recovery tool right now, despite not getting the second jump back. So it isn't totally worthless like you put it, but it is true that it's only useful when you're really high up.
@Magus: Unless the weaker hits of zelda's usmash have more than 2096 launch speed, then they shouldn't be sending into the tumble in brawl+.
CloneHat
Smash Champion
It's only worthless in the air IMO.
Eh, I just miss mixing it up and spiking people with the down B rather than the dair. Plus, it lasts longer, so you have a much greater margin of error to spike with than with the dair. But I dare not try to spike with it from the ledge, because you most likely won't make it back if you do.
Revven
FrankerZ
The one liner does that, not the one we're CURRENTLY using... The one liner has not been fixed at all yet (can't tech on floors I hear or some other bugs with it).
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
I've been asking for a code that give you your DJ back after an aerial downB, I've been waiting, I hope it gets made. Also, is it possible to make the downB spike for the whole time the hitbox is out and not just in the beginning frames of the move?
Clever_Sleazoid
Smash Apprentice
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Guys, Lucas's PK Freeze is just about worthless. As an edgeguard, PK thunder or even just trying a spike does a better job. So I have a proposition to make the move worth it.
Instead of having PK Freeze hit upward, just have it freeze them on the spot. Imagine how much better that would be! It would actually make more sense as well. Is this possible, and does anyone else like this idea? In essence, all that has to be done is set the knockback to very low, right?
Instead of having PK Freeze hit upward, just have it freeze them on the spot. Imagine how much better that would be! It would actually make more sense as well. Is this possible, and does anyone else like this idea? In essence, all that has to be done is set the knockback to very low, right?
CloneHat
Smash Champion
Speaking of Ganon's useless moves, what about the uptilt?
:034:
Smash Hero
We of the Ganondorf boards have been discussing utilt's qualities - and we all decided that being able to cancel utilt mid-way would ****. Sucking your opponents in and hitting them with a tilt or a jab would be rather orgasmic.
We actually spent a lot of time trying to find a tech like that in vBrawl, but alas, no go.
We actually spent a lot of time trying to find a tech like that in vBrawl, but alas, no go.
That'd be breaking tradition imo. Giving ganon massive IASA frames on his utilt. :/
Utilt is not a useless move, especially with NASL. There is a time and a place for every move (except Marth's back throw. Now there's your useless move.)
Don't touch the utilt. .__.
Utilt is not a useless move, especially with NASL. There is a time and a place for every move (except Marth's back throw. Now there's your useless move.)
Don't touch the utilt. .__.
Yea.... -___-