MarioMariox2
Smash Ace
Give him a chance, guys D: I'll admit that atm, Mario is worse than Doc but more efficient use shows us that Mario's Smashes (coupled with Utilt/air) let Mario at least be Lowest of Non-MBR mid tier.Hbox said:
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Close, Please, and sticky the official tier list.
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DtJ SmithZzz
Happy Birthday Kjell
I definitely thought Mario would get mid tier..and Luigi..
Stevo
Smash Champion
is it really necessary to use
LOW
Mario/Pikachu/DK/Luigi
Link
BOTTOM
Zelda/Mewtwo/Young Link
instead of
LOW
Mario/Pikachu/DK/Luigi
Link
Zelda/Mewtwo/YoungLink
?
Lovage
Smash Hero
hbox's tier list is pretty good
i would switch mewtwo and roy
and put DK below mario/pika/luigi, and have him below or above link in low tier
i would switch mewtwo and roy
and put DK below mario/pika/luigi, and have him below or above link in low tier
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
mewtwo is better than roy 4 sho.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
i'm sure neo would come in here and say the exact opposite
/characterbias'
/characterbias'
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
lol but he hasn't.
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
gave my opinion of it. didn't change much I def agree with you on top tier.
Stevo
Smash Champion
Roy is garbs
should be in garbs tier
that's how it works
should be in garbs tier
that's how it works
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
mostly correct. i think Link and Pika should be higher, other than that its **** near perfect.
oh and luigi is the best character.
oh and luigi is the best character.
BEES
Smash Lord
The only characters that belong in garbs are Pichu/Kirby/Bowser. Every other character has enough strengths to be tournament viable. Those three clearly stand out as being worse.
Stevo
Smash Champion
I personally would rather play Kirby than Roy in most matchups.
Just sayin, not everyone agrees that only Pichu/Kirby/Bowser have no potential iin tournament
Just sayin, not everyone agrees that only Pichu/Kirby/Bowser have no potential iin tournament
trahhSTEEZY
Smash Champion
mm, i agree. changed my tier list since i never did the bottom anyways
Merkuri
Smash Lord
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Picking Kirby over Roy in most match ups is a mistake. Roy is underrated imo, but at the very least he's better than Ness and G&W.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
I would say kirby is better in some match-ups people overrate kirby in the wrong places. kirby has some good things going besides the fact very few people choose to play the match-up so it's impossible for kirby ever land a single hit. kirby isn't bad vs people like roy, falco(like 20x easier if they don't have a clue what to do), and some match-ups for roy I really have no idea what roy could do like vs samus/sheik.
overall kirby has that is a few decent match-ups.
overall kirby has that is a few decent match-ups.
BEES
Smash Lord
Roy can do a number of things that Kirby can't against samus/sheik. For starters, he can actually touch them sometimes. He can also move. It's nice to be able to move.
I mean, do what you want, but if I'm going to fight Fox or Falco I'll take the character with the 60% chainthrow, thanks.
Fletch
Smash Master
You forgot Ness. Other than that I tend to agree.
Stevo
Smash Champion
Roy should be placed above the others IN garbage tier maybe, but I see no reason for him to leave garbs tier though.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Roy's DD grab is better than Kirby.
Stevo
Smash Champion
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
KK has an amazing point. a great DD and good grab game is better than kirby 
BEES
Smash Lord
Roy's dtilt is better than Kirby
Stevo
Smash Champion
so then
CloneHat
Smash Champion
LOL Roy is easily not Bottom Tier.
Good grab game, good mobility, and combos > three-move bottom tiers.
Good grab game, good mobility, and combos > three-move bottom tiers.
Eggz
Smash Hero
its all trueMy Pichu is out of practice and rusty, I can only 4-stock Eggz instead of JV 5-stock him like back when I got Pichu up past Fox on the tier list. I'm bad, you don't want to see videos of a bad Pichu.
I don't like how Pichu was considered the best character in the game back when I'd beat Ken and Isai in 2v1's, he's the worst character and I don't want people getting player skill mixed up with character abilities.
SmasherLink
Smash Apprentice
mother ****er, either put link on top, or i will take this thread away
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Because even if Roy is better than Kirby by a lot, he's still largely useless in competitive play?
I dunno, something like that.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
G&W is clearly bad but not as bad as pichu really that group just needs to be sorted out a bit. very few people are even if anyone at all.
Aegri Somnia
Smash Cadet
looooooool
g&w would be better with a proper shield, and more dedicated players.
these dedicated players need to sh nair more too.
not only that, if g&w could l cancel his dair and such... so ****.
he's a beast with proper spacing. niqqas just don't know
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
G&W can l-cancel his dair.
really if any one had a better sheild it would make them better. same for more players really if we had a few people like me running around as pichu or anyone really we'd just keep studing them looking for new tactics and ideas.
really if any one had a better sheild it would make them better. same for more players really if we had a few people like me running around as pichu or anyone really we'd just keep studing them looking for new tactics and ideas.
Abilities
Smash Rookie
he can't l cancel aerials to the maximum potential that other characters can, from what i've heard.
makes sense too.
makes sense too.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
bair L-cancel would just plain dumb to deal with.
Abilities
Smash Rookie
^ on platforms?
it would **** sooo hard.
bair> l cancel and then throw in a nair or grab. think of the possibilities.
it would **** sooo hard.
bair> l cancel and then throw in a nair or grab. think of the possibilities.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
bair walls all day. worse than puff.
thank god he can't autocancel bair after the hitbox comes out it would ruin this game way worse than m2k and armada says puff did.
thank god he can't autocancel bair after the hitbox comes out it would ruin this game way worse than m2k and armada says puff did.
MarioMariox2
Smash Ace
Trahh, I'm glad you agree. It's not like Doc v Mario is like Everyone vs Kirby.
BEES
Smash Lord
G&W can L-cancel Fair and Dair, and those are really good attacks. He's a combo machine with great mobility and pokes. Totally doesn't belong in garbage tier.
ryuu seika
Smash Master
Better or Worse?
Lovage
Smash Hero
sheik and marth are noticeably worse than puff/fox/falco
how i think the tier list goes
top
fox/puff/falco
high
sheik
marth
upper
peach
falcon
mid
ic's
samus
ganon/doc
mario
low
pikachu
link/luigi/dk
bottom
zelda
roy/y.link
how i think the tier list goes
top
fox/puff/falco
high
sheik
marth
upper
peach
falcon
mid
ic's
samus
ganon/doc
mario
low
pikachu
link/luigi/dk
bottom
zelda
roy/y.link
hungrybox
Smash Legend
very interesting Lovage
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