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I have it in training now.
I am not exaggerating when I say Mac is all or nothing. Predictability is sealing your doom, but a solid read and he's dead. Almost any Little Mac match can turn on a dime, from my experience.
Here's what I'm hoping: it's easier to be good with Diddy/ZSS/etc than it is to be good with characters that are developing slower at this point (Falco, the Pits, Robin, etc).
Roll Cancel Grabs effectively fix his terrible grab range. Perfect Pivots make his defensive game safer, and his punishes much cleaner. Don't even get me started on his Dance Trot, with it being one of the best in the game. It basically allows him to bait anything the opponent can throw at you and then be back in a flash to wreck face with whatever you wish. Mac can also use the downB through a standing ledge getup tech if I'm not mistaken for some surprise counters. The problem with all of this tech is how very easy it is to mess up during the middle of a match. It would take some serious dedication to learn and then apply these techniques, time that many would rather spend on a character with more rounded match-ups and less dependent on stage selection. The potential is there however, that I cannot deny.
Three possible scenarios.
I actually have, and I agree. Between Mario and Pit I played quite a few matches with ZSS and I went back to her recently and found the same problems I had with her before, namely that it was much harder to land kills (and to a degree attacks in general) with ZSS than with Pit. This could be because of how they're designed or my preferred playstyle but at any rate I'm much more comfortable playing as Pit than any other character. A pocket character, if I had one, would be a character that I'm inherently less comfortable with but would have a better match up against another character or player that gives me trouble when I'm playing my main but feels more even when I'm playing the pocket.
When you get good with zss killing is not really a problem. Hitting her moves in general is kind of hard at first. Well some of them.
Tested a lot of F-tilts and Nados, and... yeah, they clash when collide. However, I'm still unsure if the 'barely-above-the-ground' Nado can break through LM's F-tilt. Heck, F-tilt has some lag. Low, but noticeable, especially after some Fireballs spamming. Thing is, the CPUs are just so stubborn, not wanting to use Luigi's Nado or LM's F-tilt when I need them to. And I still have these questions in mind.
I can see Pikachu joining the top 4. At this point, I think we're going to end up with something like the following.
Oh, how the **** did I missed that. My apology are yours, Pazx.
Upperdash Arm requires some good reads though, the end lag is pretty merciless.
Get them in the air.
It kills in 3DS version, so it should kill in Wii U. Just get as high as you can and U-air them.
Losing to Sheik, Ness, and ZSS does not bode well for his competitive future.
Not every character can toss out lagless 5-frame aerials that kill. That's the crux of his gameplay, and won't work for the heavy majority of the cast.
TriTails
it's literally just his uair and how easy it is for him to grab people.
Go to clashtournaments' twitch stream and watch the grand finals. It'll be up on youtube soon too.
I'd tend to agree. ZeRo was able to go full aggro, and it works because he knows how to use Diddy's attacks to constantly pressure everyone else. Nairo, like always, played very intelligently, but him landing a successful read yeilds MUCH less reward and MUCH less kill potential than Diddy. Period. He gets less out of playing smart. There's not much the players could've done, at least that was the overwhelmingly obvious tone of the entire 4 set massacre.I'd like to think Nairo is a better player than Zero but that conflicts with my belief that ZSS and Diddy are at the same level. I think it's unlikely that the matchup would be significantly in Diddy's favour if they were both in a top 4 tier.
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It's not, just like how spindash isn't the only thing that makes Sonic top tier. There's a lot more going on.
TriTails
I rate Toon Link far higher than regular Link in Sm4sh. At first I didn't, I mained Link in Brawl for years and he's undoubtedly better in this iteration and I've enjoyed playing as him but I still think TLink has the edge over him. I initially thought perhaps Link's general buffs in addition to his raw kill power were enough to make him the better character but the more I play and see of both characters the more I'm proven wrong. The difference is not quite as pronounced as in Brawl as Link is definitely a viable character but I think he's certainly a step below TLink who just has an easier time racking up damage in my opinion. His projectiles + mobility are unparalleled in this game and he's certainly not lacking in kill power or safe kill setups. I genuinely think he's at a Ness/Yoshi/etc level of viability in this game.
