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Chainchoking
- Thread starter TP
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.Kiyo
Smash Cadet
I gotta practice this really hard now, and see the opponents movements. Hopefully I'll be able to do this when I get good enough!
Copy cats, are lurking:
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=_OrT5udcgAU&feature=channel_page
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=_OrT5udcgAU&feature=channel_page
stRIP
Smash Ace
Thats just Staco from gsb, i dont like him
he johhns aaaaaall the day
I dont think good snakes need this
So, I just finished reading this ENTIRE topic and I got to say that it was a nice read. When it actually discussed chainchoking that is. <.<
Anyway, I came here to bring something up. What if we b-sticked? Would it be more practical? I'm just wondering.
Anyway, I came here to bring something up. What if we b-sticked? Would it be more practical? I'm just wondering.
PK-ow!
Smash Lord
There is a *slight*, *slight*, and by that I mean SLIIIIIIIIIIIGHHT chance, that learning to do this with the B-stick, may SLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHTLY help with learning it, by muscle memory. That is, it may be easier to learn to associate [such and such a character reaction] with [such and such a thumb flick], as oppose to combining a thumb flick with a button/trigger input, which must be co-ordinated temporally, but also is split to two points in your body (two fingers).
But it's a slight chance. I don't have any specific reason to believe it is the case, and don't actually know anything about that kind of learning.
Meanwhile, Cstick lets us do Salmon Smash, and for tap jumpers, we get easy uairs. Either one alone is pretty valuable.
Anyway, for me, I think Chainchoking is how I will break out in my region (I really think I can do this), but first I want to do the air dodge FoG on command. It shouldn't be too hard - it should be just like SJR for Wolf's fair, except a different time.
Kishin
Smash Ace
Did anyone realize the opponent could possibly decide to do NOTHING until they are forced to stand up?
Then you just wait until they decide to move ^^
Squirrely
Smash Journeyman
If the opponent doesn't immediately do something I instinctively do a d-tilt. It will always hit.
Chainchoking works very good!
I had my friend over for a few just-4-fun-games.
As soon as I Gerudo'd him I peeked at his controller, just like this " >_> "
Then I saw what input he did and followed up with either a Gerudo or Shield>Gerudo.
When he rolled towards the ledge (trying to break the chainchoke) I simply Fsmashed him.
But soon he realized that I was peeking and he was like "WTF? Stop staring at my controller!" while laughing.
Peeking at the opponents controller can't be banned in a offline tournament. lulz
Ganon + peeking = WIN !
I had my friend over for a few just-4-fun-games.
As soon as I Gerudo'd him I peeked at his controller, just like this " >_> "
Then I saw what input he did and followed up with either a Gerudo or Shield>Gerudo.
When he rolled towards the ledge (trying to break the chainchoke) I simply Fsmashed him.
But soon he realized that I was peeking and he was like "WTF? Stop staring at my controller!" while laughing.
Peeking at the opponents controller can't be banned in a offline tournament. lulz
Ganon + peeking = WIN !
stRIP
Smash Ace
RL mindgames ololol
Im learning Chainchoking vs ROB atm...than Metaknight
KOSKINATOR! Learn chainchoking vs Mk, so you can chainchoke M2k to death ;D
TP
Smash Master
I'm glad to see that people are finally starting to use this.
The easiest characters are Pikachu and Kirby, if you want to see fast results.
The easiest characters are Pikachu and Kirby, if you want to see fast results.
hyperstation
Smash Lord
Because of your post, you've earned yourself a new signature move in the Friend Finder thread, Z1gma.
LAWLZ
LAWLZ
Ray_Kalm
Smash Master
10characters.
Lol.. good one
WhatIsRaizen?
Smash Ace
sorry for the bump
but, has anyone actually mastered this after all these months?
but, has anyone actually mastered this after all these months?
smashkng
Smash Lord
Chain Choke is similar to Snake's dthrow, but instead of doing a bit less damage and having more start-up lag, it allows tech-chase into earlier kill moves and optionally guaranteed moves against most characters.
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Superspright
Smash Lord
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We should be able to in theory 0-death quite a few people, or at least put them into kill range if someone perfected it. MK can be chain-choked indefinitely.
Its just not humanly possible to reach to every possible situation, I would MUCH rather get 1 - 3 chokes in and end with a Fsmash or stomp... most the time I don't even go for the second choke, I'd rather jab them off the ground or punish a roll, hard.
Hobs
Smash Journeyman
I thought ledges prevent infinites...
What I'm confused by is that is says that for certain options, (eg. in roll, or out roll etc.) you have to take a step in a certain direction first, but then doesn't that require prediction? Or is the idea that you can take that step and still cover all the options.
TP
Smash Master
Taking the step still lets you cover all options.
Noobicidal
Smash Master
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I'd like to say that my chain choke game is pretty impressive, but it's often overshadowed due to me usually just going for whatever is guaranteed out of choke or predicting correctly and dairing.
DLA
"Their anguish was my nourishment."
I'm going to be doing a LOT of experimenting with chain choking while looking at my opponent's controller. I'll let you guys know the results this saturday 
Sunglasses FTW
Sunglasses FTW
Bahamut777
Smash Ace
You don't need to hide that, since there are no rules against it.
Maybe I'll try it too, tomorow.
Maybe I'll try it too, tomorow.
But if they saw you looking at their controller, i dont think they would have it right out in the open for you to look at....You don't need to hide that, since there are no rules against it.
Maybe I'll try it too, tomorow.
Yeah, most of the time I step away from my opponent, just barely out of getup attack range. It helps me to not be as predictable by standing there and shielding. The only problem with it is if they have a nice backroll, away from me. >.>
DLA
"Their anguish was my nourishment."
This.
Plus my shades are sexy.
(I think we already had this conversation - nubile young women and whatnot)
Kishin
Smash Ace
I tried the looking at the controller tech against my friend one time and he started to fake inputs.
Superspright
Smash Lord
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To truly chain-choke we need someone on meth who has practiced it flawlessly off meth, then give them meth. Their reaction time will increase and their focus...so then MAYBE we can watch a Ganon choke M2K non-stop into a predicted backroll fsmash, or if he lays there, fsmash his ***.
DLA
"Their anguish was my nourishment."
He probably saw you then XD
Besides, I'm planning on watching the controller nearly the entire time. I don't really need to watch the game if I know that I correctly tech chased my opponent. I'm actually going to experiment with both Gerudo and Aerudo... because if I keep Aerudoing, then they can't hit me with a getup attack.
I'm pretty excited to test this, in case you couldn't tell
Breezy
Smash Ace
The best is when you know where they're gunna roll and tell them where they are going while you're punishing it.
Superspright
Smash Lord
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Breezy, you so cocky.