Castlevania Mafia - Game Over! Mafia and Traitor win!!!

[Swiss]

I think you do.

If you are town, sorry. Blame Das.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Reminder: Deadline has been set to the last minute of Monday, November 15th - CET.

 

[X1-12]

Anyone, just hammer him now.

 

[Swiss]

Hammer right ****ing now.

 

[giraffelasergun]

Vote: GLG

Self hammering is not that much fun anymore.

 

[Swiss]

You need to unvote first.

 

[giraffelasergun]

oh right.

Unvote, Vote: GLG

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Well just in case he can't hammer himself for whatever reason (been awhile since h did and still no mod update), gonna hammer because its better than a no lynch considering the deadline is like in 10 hours and nobody posting or wants to hammer.

Vote: GLG

 

[EdreesesPieces]

forgot to unvote
Unvote
Vote: GLG

 

[Life]

Vote: GLG

Blood's off my hands already, but I might as well.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Day 3 - Final Votecount

giraffelasergun [4] - X1-12, Zen, Swiss, giraffelasergun
InferiorityComplex [1] - EdreesesPieces
EdreesesPieces [1] - InferiorityComplex

Not voting: Airgemini

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giraffelasergun (Soma Cruz, Town Traitor) has been lynched!

Night 3 begins!
Submit all Night actions until the last minute of Wednesday, November 17th!

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Day 4 begins!

Blah, flavor coming later...

X1-12 (Nathan Graves, Vanilla Townie) has been killed during the night!

Day 4 begins!
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!

 

[Swiss]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

I thought we had that nailed as well. Lmao.


So I think we're in LyLo/MyLo - some kind of Lo situation.

No-one should vote. Yet. Especially for me.


Anyone got anything useful to say?

 

[Swiss]

Also - what do people think of GLG's flip?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Don't know what to make of the flip yet, I don't even know what it was. What's a town traitor exactly? Is that like sort of an indie role?

Air - this may be lylo/mylo, please be more active today. Town can't afford sporadic parcipitation this late in the game, and that's kind of what I've seen you been doing all game =/ Your hesitancy to vote anyone towards the end of the Day or work off the cases you made earlier in game is disappoint.

Incom - At the end of the day yesterDay, why so worried about what people think of your moves? I actually liked that you didn't want to end the day so prematurely when you had the opportunity, was a town tell, and made me feel better about you, but I'd like to hear from you in some more detail why you were so worried about your image when it came to hammering him when the deadline DID come close.

Its 3:30am here, need to do a re read of entire game and esp yesterDay and I'll see what I can figure out as to who is the play.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

n/m found it on this page even though its not forum mafia, is this accurate?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_(party_game)

 

[Swiss]

^ It's what I thought, yes.

 

[X1-12]

I'm a cop

Hurr Durr.

Go Town

 

[Swiss]

So I should probably point out that X1 and I knew each other were town. Btw.

The reasons X1 died were:
1) OMG HE HAS A POWAARGH ROLE
2) OMG HE DIES SWISS B FRAMED FO SHIZ
3) Probably another reason?

Terribad NK choice. Why is Zen still alive?

Anyway, we should lynch Air.

 

[Swiss]

I don't want to cheapen my win from a modkill or mod-confirmed information, in case anyone was wondering.

I'm sorry but I laugh every time I read this.

/re-reading

 

[Swiss]

hehehehe

I know who the scum is


now its the hard part..

Hahahahaha

Best crumb EVER.

 

[Swiss]

You state you don't know how many scum are in the game which means you're not for sure if this is LyLo yet seem pretty confident to want to hold hands with glg and lynch me in the above quote agreeing that tomorrow (if there is one) that he can lynch you for bussing. Which, you don't even know if there will be a day tomorrow for sure since you don't know how many scum are in the game and if this is LyLo. Or if you are scum you'd know that so you're trying to go for a quick lynch

You do not consider the possibility of yourself flipping town. Why not?

 

[Xivii]

Why Air, Swiss?

 

[Swiss]

Same reasons as yesterDay.

We should lynch one of Air/EP imo. They're my top two scumspects.

EP did some decent play imo - so lynch Air. Sorted.

'Course it depends on their play toDay.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

So I'm doing a re read on Swiss and Air starting from d1. I admit to somewhat tunneling on Incom through the game, and I'd like to try to avoid doing that, almost cost me a game in bioware, so I'm trying to work on that, so here's fresh perspective to explore every angle at the moment. I esp got kind of a town read on him bcuz of the very final events of yesterDay.

Swiss vs Air Day: Swiss outs DH as having a qt, Air initially goes after Swiss. Then sometime later as Dh wagon gains a bit of popularity Air switches to DH wagon.

This post is something to keep an eye on

Mm. Both went offline.

Unvote Vote Dark Horse

Mason recruiter? Really? Gawd. Guys. Srsly?

X1 is town. Dark got fed by Ryker, Zen or EP - imo he woulda named his scumbuddy as the recuitee. One of them is scum. Air looks town. Zen leans it. Inferiority leans scum. Dislike EP's most recent post.

If you honestly believe he is actually the mason recruiter he can recruit me tonight and doc can protect me.

Swiss calls to be mason recruited and doc protected. Now, if Swiss were scum, he would know DH's mason recruit would cause DH to die, and show that Swiss is indeed scum. Would he make it so obvious and call to be recruited as scum? Would be a risky gambit. Possible that Swiss scum called for the recruit but knew he could get Dh lynched so it wouldn't matter, but from other games I've played with Swiss scum, he wouldn't do something like that as scum just to clear himself. + points of swiss town

I noticed air slowly but easily convinced to join Dh wagon as day goes. Eh kind of null on Air being town/scum, but something to keep in mind as I re read the game.

Swiss can u explain x1's crumb of "best crumb ever"? Not really getting it as obviously as you did.

Anyway gonna continue to re read the whole game. Still waitin on Air and Incom to post.

Zen: who is the play?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

And I'm gonna be doing re reads on all the players throughout the entire game, but im not gonna post it in one big giant post. gonna do it in bits and pieces because i play form work, and i have pockets of time to play,keep adding to it when i have the chance.

 

[Xivii]

Need to review. I'll do so when I get the time.

 

[Swiss]

@ EP he was fake crumbing cop for a lot of posts. That one just made me laugh upon my re-read.

 

[Airgemini]

According to the mafia wiki, a traitor is someone that knows who mafia is but mafia doesn't know who he is. And tries to win with mafia. So perhaps we should look at people that gg thought wasn't suspicious or didn't interact with much??? Or any relationships with him.

Also, looking at the OP and the people still alive, pretty sure there's only two scum in this game. One of which I think is Swiss. His partner could be EP or Incom, not sure. Zen is town.

 

[Life]

Kinda expected X1 to die after Cello's "LOL UR COP" thing.

@EP: I worry about my image because this may or may not be LyLo (one one hand, would there only be one QT'd scum? On the other hand, what kind of balance would 7v1v2+1 be?) and if town is to win we can't lynch town. And I AM town (though I'm aware you technically cannot know that unless your role/alignment says you can).

Zen is town. I'd be surprised if he's not tomorrow's NK.

I'm a little more comfortable with EP based on the beginning of #745 (not because he's more comfortable with me, but that he seems to be ready to watch the whole town and not just me). Not 100% confirmed I'd-mason-him-if-I-could town (I've been explaining the quicklynch thing all game) but closer than before.

Process of elimination says either Air or Swiss is the most likely play toDay, which means I need to reread them to figure which is better.

I am not the cop BTW. Speaking of which, between myself, EP, Swiss, and Gemini, surely the cop has at least one guilty verdict...

Swiss: how are we to know that you and X1 were aware of your mutual townhood? (Horribly worded, but you know what I mean)

 

[Swiss]

Uh. Well the plan was that neither of us would die (I think, lmao).

Crumbed it as much as I could with calling him obv town (which he was) early D2, then we both just suddenly swapped on each other. Uh I told cop NOT to investigate him as he 'was probably Godfather' -> I.e. you'd waste it and get an innocent. Zen realised something was up and said that our interaction was fake ('Cuz it was) and that we have the same alignment (iirc - def. said if one is scum the other is).

^ Off the top of my head.

Directly wrt your question - I can't prove that what I did means I'm town, but I can show (and pretty much did, can pull up the quotes if you want) that X1 wanted me alive in LyLo, and I him.

 

[Swiss]

^ Yeah we both kept saying how we were gonna lynch the other in LyLo. That way we were both gonna survive.

I have more doubt on me so I think killing X1 made more sense, especially 'cuz he was cop. Hurr durr.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

@ EP he was fake crumbing cop for a lot of posts. That one just made me laugh upon my re-read.

Ohh I thought you were saying it was a crumb as to why he really thought you were town. Can you show me any posts/crumbs from X1 that actually suggest you both knew each other were town despite earlier you guys saying you thought the other was scum?? You quoted him suggesting he tried to draw the NK, but I'd like to see you back this up a little by showing us anything that really did suggest you two knew each other were town cuz I'm not seeing it myself as I read through d3's posts right now.

Air - I think we should def look into GLG/Xastrn relationships with players, but be weary of any conclusions you draw of what he thought during d3. Could be a loott of wifom into what he was saying because at that point he knew he'd be lynched, so gotta look hard into the context of everything he said.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Sorry Swiss you just answered me. I had this page open and didn't hit refresh =/ That's decent but the direct quotes would be way more convincing, can you pull those out?

 

[Swiss]

Yeah now I think about it. Not sure why he was wifom'ing cop and doing this with me.

Wtf X1. Maybe he actually did think I was scum. Jesus. Ask him after the game. Would put money on him thinking me town. Knew this was a bad idea D:

Will pull up some quotes tonight/2mo - depends. I'll assume you want quotes from X1's side of the deal - I figure mine are pretty out there already.

 

[Swiss]

/ninja'd.

Yeah go on then. Seeings as it looks like you believe me I'll do it.

 

[Swiss]

Don't think a cop needs to bother with you. You're probably godfather. Look I think you're scum, you're calling me scum. Neither of us are being lynched toDay. We both know you won't scum NK me, and I probably wouldn't scum NK you. So we can face each other 2mo. Or in LyLo if that's what you want. Idc.

just need to make sure, we're in agreement that one of me and you is def scum? important to clarify now I think

I don't think it is.

Shakespeare you ain't mate. You'll confuse people. We think each other are scummy, that's it.

no but I need to know that if I get NK'ed I can trust town to lynch you.

You know I wouldn't NK you anyway.

1) I've never needed to, I can always get you lynched. I mean WIFOM it up here but Jesus man.

2) I'd lose that bet we made. Bad reason but hell yes I'm that arrogant. And I think you are too.

Cbf multi quoting another exchange. #660 to 663 Notice how X1 totally lets me slip away on his 'scummy point' against me when I give no reasoning.

'Course it does.

Anyway, what's important now is the lynch. GLG? Upon his scum flip, who is scum?

Want Incom/Air/EP to be copped. X1's probably godfather knowing his luck.

@zen: I don't remember ever saying I saw connections between them. i said there's 2 scum between Swiss/EP/GLG

Swiss: you know that when you incorrectly call me scum it just makes me know you're scum. Lets make the game a bit even, you tell me who the next 2 lynches are then you can chance it in LYLO with any 2 townies you choose, deal? If you tell me 2 townie names it won't end well for you.

@GLG: If it came down to it I would lynch swiss over anyone thats not you/EP

^ He basically asks me who the scumteam are, imo.

Oh X1, you do twist my arm.

I'll have a pop 'n flop at bussing my 'ol buddies GLG 'n Air. However, allow me to perchance a guess that you won't have been night killed by that time. The shock may just make me self hammer. Lol you are so see through. OMG I MUZT PRWOVE 2 SWISS EYE KAN BEET HIM AS SCUM. I don't even care who the third guy in LyLo. You dead. No-one will choose you over me. Amirite?
Anyway, we should go ahead and play as if we don't already know each others alignments for a day or so. I'm looking forward to your lynch too much. (aaaand don't Nk me [WIFOM WIFOM] - that won't allow you to win that bet we made ^_^ )


Back to the game: Where we @?

Bolded was making it blatant.



Didn't annotate the rest, see forced exchanges and me calling him godfather.

 

[Swiss]

Zen you're with me on the Air wagon yeah? Good.

Let's see what we're working with here:

Swiss
Zen
Incom
EP
Air

K. It takes three to lynch - and with Zen being confirmed town. We just need Incom to agree. Or EP.

I suggest a full claim in this order:

Air
EP
Incom
Zen

Put me in 3rd if you have to.

@ EP - I remember re-reading and not finding anything in Das' posts which crumbed to mafia he was working for them.

 

[Airgemini]

Vanilla townie

 

[Swiss]

Oh. Really?

Can we get a character claim as well?

^ Don't lie.