I love it when my internet cuts out in the middle of a long post. Luckily, I had the foresight (at the last moment) to save it to a text file.
Swiss - Possibly Incom. After looking back at this post I think I'm going to put him back on my suspicion list.
I don't see the point in saying this really. It sounds like he's being overly cautious with his actions. Later below when he does vote him he mentions that no one should hammer. I don't see why he'd put a vote on him for literally hardly any reason (very poor reasons imo) besides opinions of the people that he's replaced and then tells no one to hammer...
Nobody is to hammer because I don't want the day to end early. What is it that people don't understand about that?
Also:
X: The sky is blue!
Incom: Yeah, I can agree with that.
Y: U BANDWAGONING BRO
versus
X: The sky is blue!
Incom: *ignores*
Y: U NONCOMMITTAL BRO
That's hyperbole of course, but basically I'm trying to mock that I have seemingly no way out except to shout "The sky is orange!" or whatever.
I really don't like this post. To me, it looks like a really desperate attempt to look town. I feel as though it's waaayyyy overdoing it.
Being at L-1 is a ton of pressure to be under, town or scum. I had already thought BSL/Xas was scum, therefore GLG by definition could only be scum. When someone replaces in, they're still holding the same slot as the person before them. Usually I give them the benefit of the doubt for a brief time, but you can't really automatically forgive someone for everything as soon as they're replaced. GLG has been playing much better (case against Air).
You and I both know that I'm not saying you aren't allowed to agree with people. I'm saying agreeing with people is all you are doing, ie you don't put any aggresion into any of your own cases, you just try to agree with others as much as possible. It's fine to agree, but to do nothing but agree, is what I find you did most of the game.
Cello says hi. (Okay, I did retreat on that one, but I thought I made it clear why.) This convo says hi.
Also:
http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3995320&pp=40
Searched your posts. Much of your pressure this game has been on me. Not all of it--you've done some things with Swiss and GLG, and assorted single comments towards other players. I count six posts that are pressure on me (out of 27--about one in 4.5), along with some other offhand "X, I agree that Incom is scum" lines. I'd compare with other players, but this post is taking too long already.
http://www.smashboards.com/search.php?searchid=3995357&pp=53
Searched my posts. Up until the last few (realtime) days, you may have had a point. I spent most of my time on the defensive. A lot of that could be explained as some combo of noobcard, trying to deflect early pressure, and reaching into the dark trying to find something.
If you feel like his IRL situation might be different and you don't want to push him if he's busy IRL, I don't understand why you said "Im gonna re read the thread, if I can do it, surely BSL can" Why make that comment if you don't feel he should be pressured for his IRL situation? You are right that this issue isn't a big deal, I'm not gonna say you are scum because of this, it's a really small reason compared to everything else, but as part of my case I wanted to include every little thing that contributed to my read on you, and that did contribute a little. I find that scum often pressure someone but then give them a way out when they do it, ie offer answers or excuses for the person they pressure, so I saw that as a very slight scumtell, as in you wanted to look like you were pressuring his inactivity but at the same time say it was not a big deal, I see it as you wanting to have it both ways. So yes I'm seriously adding this to my pressure on you, I don't see the problem with that.
I see where you're coming from. I do want to point out that Swiss did something early on to DH that was similar to what you are describing (pressure + way out), after luring out DH's QT. See post #46. You did not react to it.
Also, on the Swiss issue, gotcha. That's reasonable enough.
Cool.
While some of your answers are satisfying to me, I don't like that you pass off my case on you as off and then give the reason of me being scum trying to pass it off as pressure. Just seems a bit like you are trying to reflect the pressure I put on you by discrediting/reflecting it back onto me, and for this I feel you to be the play for the day, and a much better play than GLG.
You missed one point re: Cello.
I explained this in the post above. Also, both BSL and SOLID were my scum reads along with Cello, and a scum lynch is a scum lynch (unless you can confirm one has a scum PR). Honestly, if I'd been present when Cello told X1/you to hammer, I'd have unvoted due to the same quicklynch logic from D1 and that I used against Swiss D2.
@Zen: Can I get a quick clarification?
I agree with Incom. I really don't like his last couple of posts.
You agree with Air about me (not liking me) or you agree with me (not liking EP)?
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