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BrawlLover
Smash Champion
crap, i just lost
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
Quoted from other Marth thread
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
wow how do you quote from another thread?
marth doesn't approach falcon, when he does, he loses, when he doesn't, he wins
marth doesn't approach falcon, when he does, he loses, when he doesn't, he wins
copy and paste for the kill
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
Well, I wanted to post the same thing at the same time, so I just copied it to show that I asked the same question somewhere else as well
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
man i wish there was a secret button or somn fur that
I.B
Smash Lord
hit him before he hits you
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
hey, that's a great ideaargh!
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Ideally you'd approach Falcon with fairs, because those'll beat out pretty much anything he can throw at you. Nairs could work, but his nairs or dairs could trump yours. Sometimes uairs are a nice surprise if they try to full jump an aerial to counter your approach.
Doc match up... cancel pills with your sword and gimp him before he gimps you.
Doc match up... cancel pills with your sword and gimp him before he gimps you.
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
What attacks? Jab or fair? (pills)
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
ftilt ***** doc
Mew2King
King of the Mews
lol, just do air attacks vs doc (and CC when he hits you), and he won't hit you with CC down smash and your aerial attacks will just beat pills w/out lagging. Don't listen to what P said, unless your goal is to lose, in which case you should listen to him.
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Why won't he hit you with dsmash...?
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
I'm just assuming that since you will CC his attacks, you will take the initiative and strike before he does (which is one of the purposes of CC)...
Lots of Doc's lead in with jabs to other stuff.
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LOL, I get it now. G-mo was giving you trouble, Tai?
Not to worry. At least you know what to do in general now.
Lots of Doc's lead in with jabs to other stuff.
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LOL, I get it now. G-mo was giving you trouble, Tai?
Not to worry. At least you know what to do in general now.
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
actually ftilt ***** pretty hard, m2k is just trying too hard cuz i've pissed him off before =)
Tee ay eye
Smash Hero
YesI'm just assuming that since you will CC his attacks, you will take the initiative and strike before he does (which is one of the purposes of CC)...
Lots of Doc's lead in with jabs to other stuff.
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LOL, I get it now. G-mo was giving you trouble, Tai?
Not to worry. At least you know what to do in general now.
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His doc gives me more trouble than any of his other characters. I can **** his Falcon with my Fox, but I just seem to feel weird using Marth.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Treat him like Samus and just do Fair perfectly.
hi cactus come back to your boards 
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!!!3747373796432
Smash Journeyman
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What do I do when I'm on the ledge and Peach is sitting back spamming turnips? And any tips for avoiding that Dsmash?
I.B
Smash Lord
space aerials and grab
Ndot
Smash Journeyman
Ledgehop to get invincibility frames if the turnips fly at you so you won't get hit away. If peach is close by the ledge where you are, time a ledgehop to waveland onto the stage as she is pulling out a turnip and grab her, aerial w/e. If she is far away doing this, it shouldnt really be a problem as it takes awhile for turnips to fly at you and you can get up really fast.
Ledgehop Nair beats everything
3747373796432
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What counters Doc's drop off bair (from hanging on the ledge) when recovering? Which way to DI when Jiggs Dthrows me?
I.B
Smash Lord
di close enough to recover but far enough that he'd have to go a bit far to hit you, then just fair him or something.
as for jiggs dthrow, i'm pretty sure you just di away
as for jiggs dthrow, i'm pretty sure you just di away
yes you should.
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
why would you not l cancel the last fair? jeez... some of these questions dont really warrant an answer.
NeighborhoodP
Smash Hero
you can't auto cancel the second of a shdf :|
elvenarrow3000
Smash Master
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Dthrow you have to DI in front of Jigglypuff 'cause if you DI behind her, you pop up right over her.
IrArby
Smash Ace
I **** buses . . . that is all.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
when ppl mention shdf they never say that you l cancel so i was thinking it might auto cancel. how would I know?
Basically, that's marth really has to do to beat doc.
Space aerials.
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You start throwing stuff on the ground, you give doc a chance to block and punish and whatnot. You stay spaced with your aerials, he cant CC d.smash (wont reach).
As long as you keep throwing aerials, doc has to carefully jump in through that nonsense.
That's really the nutshell of the matchup.
Fair. XD
Doc can only b.air you if he
1) waits for a fair
2) knows you're not going to f.air
cause your f.air is going to beat him.
So if you wait for him to do it and he doesnt, you recover. If he does, you fair him... then recover. >.>
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
what if he wavedashes in and ccs ur fair at mid-low% what then! i'll tell you what CC DSMASH baby!
ill tell ya what, if ya space it right, bet it still wont be a cc d.smash!
ComboTurtle
Smash Lord
i'll tell you what the super pro mario ruined your spacing with his perfect wavedash to beautifully crouch cancelled dsmash and now you're flying off the side of battlefield with no chance of grabbing the ledge, what do you do?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
There are super pro marios?