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Mew2King

King of the Mews
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Cinnaminson (southwest NJ 5 min drive from Philly)
all you have to do is jump and nair right away.

even if you fast fall ASAP, it will still autocancel, and you can do a rising first hit of nair and a falling 2nd hit of nair if you time it right. It's far better than what ken does w/ nair. In fact, it's not even comparable, it's INFINITELY better than what he does.
 

SHDW23

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jul 17, 2008
Messages
214
i think the only difference is that autocanceled is 4 frames lag, while l-canceled is 7 frames of lag (no canceling produces 15 frames lag i think). objectively quantified that makes it exactly 7/4 times better or 75% better. what you do with the extra 3 frames (1/20 of a second) could increase that percentage though, i guess.
 

KirbyKaze

Smash Legend
Joined
Nov 18, 2007
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17,679
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Spiral Mountain
m2k, if i do a rising weak nair hit and fast falled strong nair hit (with autocancel) on someone's shield is there enough time to dash behind them before they try to grab me?
 

Havokbringer

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
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1,328
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El Sobrante,CA
I think if you 're pratically inside thier shield, the stun from Nair should have enough stun to run behind them without getting grabbed.

So I would think yes.(even though you asked M2K.)
 

elvenarrow3000

Smash Master
Joined
Jul 22, 2007
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3,308
Basically after a certain frame, most aerial moves will autocancel... automatically. You can look up the specifics from SuperDoodleMan's frame data. Marth's nair autocancels a tiny bit after the second slash finishes. Pretty good.
 

DoH

meleeitonme.tumblr.com
Joined
Jul 1, 2004
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7,618
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Washington, DC
dear cactus

i'm trying to get xelic to go to the next big GA melee tournament; he countered with "do you remember how hot that was?" and told him it would be during the winter, and he complained about the cold, and i told him it would be a good opportunity for you and he to cuddle. factual, yes?
 

Cactuar

El Fuego
BRoomer
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Mar 10, 2006
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4,820
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Philadephia, PA
dear cactus

i'm trying to get xelic to go to the next big GA melee tournament; he countered with "do you remember how hot that was?" and told him it would be during the winter, and he complained about the cold, and i told him it would be a good opportunity for you and he to cuddle. factual, yes?
Haha wow yes.
 

Velox

Smash Ace
Joined
Feb 14, 2007
Messages
866
Location
Texas (UoH)
randy jumped all over that immunity idol n-air with his greedy little fox gloves

it's cool that that kind of stuff is being talked about now though (with the n-air..), for so long I thought I was halucinating (sp..) with how the game really worked. how far things have come.
 

MexicanBJ

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Nov 24, 2008
Messages
211
yea i think raynex might be onto something here.

well at least if you're not actually black, you better main a black char (dont worry m2k, i got you)
 

Vist

Smash Champion
Joined
Jan 13, 2003
Messages
2,059
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Pasadena, Maryland
VIST BEAT MANGO!

AT POUND 3...

IN POOLS.

AND LOST TO MILKTEA!

IN THE SAME POOL!

fo real vist is good though dood.
lol i just randomly saw this

yeah milktea beat me one match and i think the set was pretty close overall, she was playing really well. On a side note oorah-kabra ***** my **** w/ ganon
 
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