Cancel Shield Breaker

[BBoyindo]

People, stop saying things like PS, spotdodge, and rolling. NikoK found something to do about it when SB already hit your shield.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

rofl, you guys are cute. Anyway, I **** with Shieldbreaker, it's an awesome move. If you're not getting profit, you're doing it wrong.

Who's cute? Me, or the others posting?

 

[SNRLX]

@everyone confused

pierce shield breakered niko at cot4 where it SHOULD have broken the shield but niko brought his leet canada hacks with him and it didn't do anything.

Perhaps NikoK's shield broke while he was holding it and the animation launching him into the air was stopped by a hit from the Shieldbreaker? This would get him out of the helpless shield-broken state. I'm not sure what is meant by "didn't do anything". Do you mean it hit Niko and sent him a little ways (to say that it didn't put Niko into the shield-broken state) or do you mean that the shieldbreaker did not affect Niko at all?

 

[Schwaumlaut]

This is probably too simple to be what's going on, but my friends let go of the shield button as soon as they hear the "WHOOSH" - even if they're too late, a lot of the time they have juuuust enough shield left to drop it without breaking.

In other words, I've found that a lot of my shield breaks come from people getting hit with it, and forgetting to let go of the shield button before their shield breaks itself.

10noobs

 

[Fatalzyntax]

When you get your shield broken near an edge of something you can actually land sliding off that way when you fall off the edge your brokensheildstun goes away.

Kinda looks like wavelanding.... I'd have to find the vid again... but I think it was recorded by Dphanna

[edit]
I can't find the video =(

 

[AndrewCarlson]

Can you control your movement after your shield breaks? It seems that I always land in the same spot my shield was broken. Even near the edge, I've been unable to move myself to grab the edge to cancel the stunned animation afterwards.

 

[Steel]

god **** it NIKO

YOU ARENT COOL BY KEEPING IT A SECRET UR GONNA GET IN SMASH LAB OK JUST TELL ME WTF UR CANADIAN

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

What did Niko do? Canadian hax?

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

I'm gana go out on a limb here and say .5 damage ratio, based on that 0-death on MK thread.

 

[Shockdrake]

@Steel

I thought he actually didn't know how he did it. Maybe that's why he's asking here.

 

[Niko_K]

Basically you let the shield breaker hit your shield during the last frames of your shield drop, so that your shield doesn't stay out for the entire hit's duration. So you anticipate when the shield breaker is going to happen, and you press shield so that you get hit during its drop, therefore you minimize the amount of time your shield stays out for,and as soon as the drop finishes your shield is regenerating.

All it means is Marth's are going to have to lower your shield even lower to shield break it.

Pretty hard to time but I'll make a video when I can. You can have your shield "Shield Breakerd" with your shield past the halfway mark and still survive. It's pretty sex.

 

[BBoyindo]

Thanks for finally telling us Niko.

 

[Remzi]

Haha, awesome. Thanks for finally telling. You should change the topic title and OP so people can know that it's been revealed.

 

[FatJackieChan]

OH, that makes sense. But how practical of a strategy is this? Do you think with practice this is something we can do 9 out of 10 times? Or will we just get lucky when we pull it off? Thanks for telling us!

 

[AzNsAnTaGiN]

If you have the reflexes to perfectly drop your shield, why not simply PS or roll away? O_o What advantage does this have besides the omgwut factor? (And if I'm not mistaken, it comes at the expense of a weakened shield)

 

[BanjoKazooiePro]

Well. I was excited to hear this until I heard that you have to have reflexes similar to those of Chuck Norris to perform it. Sad face.

 

[Niko_K]

Powershielding when the shield is lower still breaks from shield breaker btw,

 

[Villi]

I don't get it... basically you're saying that if you see Marth going for a shield breaker and you're shielding... let go of the shield button?

I swear, one time Marth broke my shield after I initiated a sidestep.

 

[shadowofchaos725]

Powershielding when the shield is lower still breaks from shield breaker btw,

Say wut? I thought powershielding eliminates basically any shield degredation for that one hit?

I don't get it... basically you're saying that if you see Marth going for a shield breaker and you're shielding... let go of the shield button?

I swear, one time Marth broke my shield after I initiated a sidestep.

Wouldn't that make it a bigger risk? It has the chance of seriously sending you flying if you miss those frames that Niko says...

@Steel: LOL @ "leet Canada hax" accusations... XD

 

[Villi]

I don't think it has much knockback unless it's tippered and/or fully charged? Anyway, now I think I understand. You let him hit your shield, and then let go at some specific frame?

 

[OmegaXF]

When you see shield breaker there's a reason to that.
1. You could be getting predictable with shielding or heavily relying on it. Your opponent has also conditioned you into the situation and then your shield has an orgasm and poof! children!!!!
2. It was just random.
Real fact though....100% of what I just said is truth!
I iz smarter naw! lol.

 

[BBoyindo]

People, when using the shieldbreaker, you should anticipate when the opponent will shield, and SB at the best moment. PS'ing it when you already have your shield up is not an option unless the attack is charged. Shielding it means death, while dropping your shield gives you only a little bit of percent, or it cancels out the effect altogether. So letting go of the shield button IS the best option.

 

[Dynomite]

"Don't get hit"

>_>

isauh!

uh is it get hit with it then dodge? cuz ive seen it be done in tournament play ALOT.

 

[ark-angel]

uhhhh sidestep? roll around? jump? dont shield? lol

 

[BBoyindo]

uhhhh sidestep? roll around? jump? dont shield? lol

Why do people keep saying this stuff...

 

[ark-angel]

Why do people keep saying this stuff...

i guess i am just a smash noob as it says lol