BrawlBox v0.63d (bug fixes)

[Kaye Cruiser]

Hmm, I guess your right.

LolGoku XD *SMACKED*

 

[KuroBit]

Better screenshot:

 

[Revven]

Better screenshot:

Looking good.

 

[rjcam10]

Better screenshot:

Is Shadow over an alloy? or just good timining?

 

[KuroBit]

Is Shadow over an alloy? or just good timining?

I'd say good timing, but it's not really... I just set "Wait1" to Shadow's first standing animation frame, and "Wait2" to Sonic's first standing frame. Then I just waited until they where doing the right poses and took a picture.

 

[Grey Belnades]

Is it possible to combine animations? I would like to combine Lyn's 3 animations when she is pick as an AT as her entry, sorry if I can't be more specific since I am very limited with having no internet at home.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I'd say good timing, but it's not really... I just set "Wait1" to Shadow's first standing animation frame, and "Wait2" to Sonic's first standing frame. Then I just waited until they where doing the right poses and took a picture.

Wouldn't it be easier to just place the modified animation data onto the Shadow texture alone?

Then again, that could lead to a freeze, and the texture PAC file will end up using over 3 MB, even when compressed.

Of course, I'm not an animation hacker, so I wouldn't really know the results anyway.

 

[Shadic]

Except you can't do that, because animations are in the Motion file, and independent of the texture/model file.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Better screenshot:

....That's it, I can't take it anymore. I demand a beta download. NOW. XD *BRICKED*

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Except you can't do that, because animations are in the Motion file, and independent of the texture/model file.

That's what's so weird about the fighter animation data. For instance, you see Fox's Blaster model and animations inside his texture files, and yet they're also in FitFoxMotionEtc.pac as well.

Of course, the animations are part of the FitFoxEtc archive, instead of the FitFoxMotion archive.

 

[carlpie]

@carlpie, you can still rotate models. you press control and rightclick to rotate it like the earlier versions. took me forever to figure that out too XD

*shakes head*

CTRL right click makes them rotate on a crazy circle for me, not on their central axis. I believe the rotation point is clipped to the viewpoint rather than the character model x_x
I can rotate the model like .59 when I zoom all the way in, but zooming out just makes the character fly around in a giant circle off the screen... perhaps it works differently with my operating system? *shrugs* I'm sticking to .59 as this doesn't seem any more convenient for .60c
not a big problem since all I do is texturing right now



late reply I know

 

[Plasmakirby1]

i have a request for the bone editor. would it be poissible to have the bones draggable? it seems like it would be easier to move them the way you can see it better rather than putting in numbers and such. it would be much easier imo

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

That's what's so weird about the fighter animation data. For instance, you see Fox's Blaster model and animations inside his texture files, and yet they're also in FitFoxMotionEtc.pac as well.

Of course, the animations are part of the FitFoxEtc archive, instead of the FitFoxMotion archive.

My guess for that is because Falco has the exact same blaster that Fox has, along with his reflector.

This brings up the question of articles.

Another question in relation to the Blaster; I edit the blaster in his texture files, and no effect. I haven't tried the FoxMotion yet.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

*shakes head*

CTRL right click makes them rotate on a crazy circle for me, not on their central axis. I believe the rotation point is clipped to the viewpoint rather than the character model x_x
I can rotate the model like .59 when I zoom all the way in, but zooming out just makes the character fly around in a giant circle off the screen... perhaps it works differently with my operating system? *shrugs* I'm sticking to .59 as this doesn't seem any more convenient for .60c
not a big problem since all I do is texturing right now



late reply I know

shift right click works wonders

 

[superyoshi888]

ASKF I'm trying to replace a model, and I need to change the bones and stuff(like with an assist). How do I go about doing this?

Also, does anyone know which Adventure Stage contains the Meta Ridley battle? I've looked, but I don't feel like digging through 200 not named levels.

 

[KuroBit]

ASKF I'm trying to replace a model, and I need to change the bones and stuff(like with an assist). How do I go about doing this?

Also, does anyone know which Adventure Stage contains the Meta Ridley battle? I've looked, but I don't feel like digging through 200 not named levels.

I'd also like to know this, and the level where regular Ridley is located...

 

[[TSON]]

Also, does anyone know which Adventure Stage contains the Meta Ridley battle? I've looked, but I don't feel like digging through 200 not named levels.

920701.pac

 

[Plasmakirby1]

alright, i'm not messing with this until bones can be edited with the mouse. please do this

 

[fortwaffles]

Hey Kyral, not to bother, but when do you think the model importer will be implemented?

 

[ThatGuyYouMightKnow]

I'd also like to know this, and the level where regular Ridley is located...

Every single boss is in the last page of the All Brawl Files archive.

All ID'd starting with 9.

 

[DevilKiller]

That's what's so weird about the fighter animation data. For instance, you see Fox's Blaster model and animations inside his texture files, and yet they're also in FitFoxMotionEtc.pac as well.

Of course, the animations are part of the FitFoxEtc archive, instead of the FitFoxMotion archive.

From what I've seen so far, a couple other characters like Ike do this as well. I noticed the one thing in common they usually have is that a) they are produced from nowhere, and b) usually get thrown or moved away from the character.

A couple other examples of this funky file formating for fighters are Link, Toon Link (HOARDS of equipment), and Ike's sword (Up-B?).

That being said, I feel like I'm going to eat my words later.

 

[Kryal]

Kryal you never helped me with the freeze >.>

I don't have an answer yet. I haven't had time to loot at the file in detail.

 

[KuroBit]

alright, i'm not messing with this until bones can be edited with the mouse. please do this

He's already said he's doing this. That's why there are no left-click functions right now.

From what I've seen so far, a couple other characters like Ike do this as well. I noticed the one thing in common they usually have is that a) they are produced from nowhere, and b) usually get thrown or moved away from the character.

A couple other examples of this funky file formating for fighters are Link, Toon Link (HOARDS of equipment), and Ike's sword (Up-B?).

That being said, I feel like I'm going to eat my words later.

Are you talking about the animations that are in the FitCharacter or FitCharacter00 files?
Those are just for animating things that AREN'T the actual character. This animates things such as Captain Falcon's Blue Falcon, Link's equipment, Ike's Up+B sword, etc...

 

[Kryal]

*shakes head*

CTRL right click makes them rotate on a crazy circle for me, not on their central axis. I believe the rotation point is clipped to the viewpoint rather than the character model x_x
I can rotate the model like .59 when I zoom all the way in, but zooming out just makes the character fly around in a giant circle off the screen... perhaps it works differently with my operating system? *shrugs* I'm sticking to .59 as this doesn't seem any more convenient for .60c
not a big problem since all I do is texturing right now



late reply I know

The program uses look-at points to determine the camera position. I don't know why that would be happening, unless the framework is calculating the matrices differently than everyone else. I used to get bizarre camera movement when the matrices were bad, but now that they've been fixed it doesn't happen anymore.

Even though the runtime is supposed to be universal, they tend to act slightly differently depending on the system. Make sure you have .NET 3.5 v1 (use the link at the top page, and re-install). Let me know if this works, otherwise there's something else that I can try.

 

[Kryal]

alright, i'm not messing with this until bones can be edited with the mouse. please do this

Yes, keyframe editing is advanced. I plan on implementing drag controls eventually. Keep in mind that the animation previewer hasn't even been out for a month yet.

 

[Kryal]

Hey Kyral, not to bother, but when do you think the model importer will be implemented?

Probably not for a while, sadly. It's a lot of work making the MDL0 rebuilder, and I just haven't gotten around to it.

 

[Kryal]

Quick update: I've been able to successfully create a BRSTM file from scratch with the new audio encoder. No need for any RVL files or special steps for stereo. Just need to fix it up a bit and make the audio previewer.

Of course, the next step after this is BRSAR.

 

[pokelover980]

Quick update: I've been able to successfully create a BRSTM file from scratch with the new audio encoder. No need for any RVL files or special steps for stereo. Just need to fix it up a bit and make the audio previewer.

Of course, the next step after this is BRSAR.

You're making good progress! You happen to know a lot about these files it seems, I hope you can fully implement everything you plan.

 

[brawlshifter]

Probably not for a while, sadly. It's a lot of work making the MDL0 rebuilder, and I just haven't gotten around to it.

I'm glad Pharrox left it to you, I'm sure you'll get it done.

 

[[TSON]]

I don't have an answer yet. I haven't had time to loot at the file in detail.

Ah, alright. Please let me know so I can readd it to the new pac. I had to take it out. D,:

 

[carlpie]

shift right click works wonders

it makes the model fly offscreen even faster <_<


Lemme check my .NET framework

 

[Kyzon Xin]

zoom out then shift right click then normal and ctrl clicks. helps you rotate FAST


also can someone zip me up all the assist/pokemon files??
or tell me what the file names for them are i'd love it

 

[carlpie]

Ok, just reinstalled the .NET framework... it's no better than before '=_= sorry

zoom out then shift right click then normal and ctrl clicks. helps you rotate FAST

again it only rotates as if the character was on the outside of a spinning disk- it flies around an axis with a huge circle

 

[pokelover980]

zoom out then shift right click then normal and ctrl clicks. helps you rotate FAST


also can someone zip me up all the assist/pokemon files??
or tell me what the file names for them are i'd love it

Ok, hold on, it'll take me a few minutes to get them all...

EDIT: Actually, every file in the "item" folder except ItemCommonBrres, ItemCommonParam and ItemParam and any file with Param in its name is what you're looking for.

 

[wilttilt]

KuroBit, if you don't mind, could you check your messages?

 

[Untouch]

yo fighter kirby sup

 

[[TSON]]

That looks like some bad photoshop lmao

 

[Plasmakirby1]

Yes, keyframe editing is advanced. I plan on implementing drag controls eventually. Keep in mind that the animation previewer hasn't even been out for a month yet.

thank you. right now, this is WAY too advanced and time consuming for me.

also, when i model swap to play as celebi, he flies right on the floor. is it possible to raise him a little higher? here is a pic of his wait animation

 

[Untouch]

That looks like some bad photoshop lmao

Saved it as a jpeg accidentally, i'll get an ingame pic if it works lol

YOu;d have to add the headband to all animations which I dont want to do.
So no it doesn't.

 

[Kyzon Xin]

Ok, hold on, it'll take me a few minutes to get them all...

EDIT: Actually, every file in the "item" folder except ItemCommonBrres, ItemCommonParam and ItemParam and any file with Param in its name is what you're looking for.

ahh thx, i just found them... i was looking for models and animation lol