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Ninka_kiwi

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A boss for the boss pack ehh?
I think armored mewtwo would be better then regular mewtwo just cause he looked cooler in that form and seems more bossly.
Lavos is a bamf though and me and my friend just finished chrono trigger so I'm kinda torn between the two...
Depending on lavos though he'd be using mostly projectiles namely destruction rains from the heavens.
Just a question but who would lavos be made put of anyways?
At this point I think armor mewtwo is my suggestion but you make the final call raz.
 

Razanak7

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So.... as the Boss Pack stands currently... who's in it?
List + Pics pl0x?
I'll put together a list with pictures tomorrow if I remember to.

A boss for the boss pack ehh?
I think armored mewtwo would be better then regular mewtwo just cause he looked cooler in that form and seems more bossly.
Lavos is a bamf though and me and my friend just finished chrono trigger so I'm kinda torn between the two...
Depending on lavos though he'd be using mostly projectiles namely destruction rains from the heavens.
Just a question but who would lavos be made put of anyways?
At this point I think armor mewtwo is my suggestion but you make the final call raz.
Well, it kind of depends on how the projectiles work. I really meant if the attack would be fired and detonated on contact, it would prove to be difficult, if possible at all. But things like piercing beams and whatnot may still be workable.

Armoured Mewtwo is a good idea, but I think I would stick with the normal one. After all, judging on his reaction to it in the movie, he wouldn't be a big fan of keeping it on. I don't know, it's a consistency thing.

Lavos would probably be over Captain Falcon, unless someone better comes to mind. I'll be able to make a more educated decision after I reach him in CT.

In the meantime, I'm open to suggestions of others. I'm also considering Smithy and K. Rool, if I can get my hands on a good model. But the problem with them is that I want to avoid characters with multiple phases.
 

kangaroogreen

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Egh, I say no to K. rool or Smithy.
My suggestion would have to be an earthbound / mother 3 boss.

Woah! You should totally do the masked man. :bee:
The model could maybe be made over lucas or ness.
 

Razanak7

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How about Andross over DK? or Nightmare from Kirby over somebody?
Already considered, and DK is already being used. Nightmare could work, but Kirby bosses are pretty focused on projectiles. I actually like that boss too, so we'll have to see what we have to work with.

Egh, I say no to K. rool or Smithy.
My suggestion would have to be an earthbound / mother 3 boss.

Woah! You should totally do the masked man. :bee:
The model could maybe be made over lucas or ness.
There's a Masked Man texture for Ness already, so it's a start. Except Ness is already being used too, and I know even less about him than Lavos.

But, the ideas are coming, so we're making progress.

I'm also writing up the list right now, which I'll put into this post when it's done to avoid double posting. I'm putting it in a spoiler to save space.

EDIT: Apparently the spoiler thing didn't work, so prepare for a wall-o-text-and-pictures....

EDIT AGAIN: finally got what I was looking for, no more wasting space!

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Alright, that covers the current roster. And just for kicks, below is a list of those being considered for addition.

Mewtwo - Lucario
Lavos - Captain Falcon
Nightmare (Kirby) - Unsure
Defense Turret R7-Class (replacement for ROB Rocket)

Giygas: I doubt that one would work. From what I understand, it was defeated by praying and didn't really take a physical form. I'm probably wrong though, but I'm still not sold on it.

Dimentio: Super Dimentio is already in, so it would be kind of redundant.

Also keep in mind that those Final Smashes will probably change later on.
 

JediKnightTemplar

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Giygas; all you can do is taunt spam and hope that Captain Falcon comes to save you (one of his moves, a very unlikely one, would be a self destruct involving Captain Falcon).
 

Photos

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How about Dimentio from the Super Paper Mario series? He was pretty wicked when it came to explosions and head flowers and boxes.

EDIT: woops! didn't see that.
 

Roo525

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In the meantime, I'm open to suggestions of others. I'm also considering Smithy and K. Rool, if I can get my hands on a good model. But the problem with them is that I want to avoid characters with multiple phases.
You might be putting Smithy in the boss pack Razanak? I'd be honoured if you used my model. :3
Gamewatching is helping me export it at the moment, so I'mma gonna texture it, possibly give it some custom anim's, and release it.
 

Razanak7

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You'd Be willing to put Smithy in the boss pack Razanak? I'd be honoured if you used my model. :3
Gamewatching is helping me export the model, so I'mma gonna texture it, possibly give it some custom anim's, and release it.
Possibly. Everything is still open to see what everyone would like to see.

Smithy is awesome for sure, but he doesn't have very much potential for a moveset. Although I could probably do something interesting with Dedede's minions, other than that, his moves will all pretty much be basic hammer attacks. So other than his size, he would pretty much be an overpowered regular character with an HP bar.

Still, it's probably between him, Mewtwo and Nightmare. Possibly Lavos too, but I still don't know much about him. If I do go with Smithy, I'll use your model. But for now, we'll wait and see what people come up with.
 

n64billy

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I vote for Dimentio instead of Super Dimentio! Seriously, you can't help but love that smile he has... plus he's way cooler than some mutant fusion with Luigi...
 

TommoPuppy

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I'm also writing up the list right now, which I'll put into this post when it's done to avoid double posting. I'm putting it in a spoiler to save space.

EDIT: Apparently the spoiler thing didn't work, so prepare for a wall-o-text-and-pictures....
Try collapse tags.
 

RandomTBush

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Don't mind the eyebrows, I have to fix up the UV mapping again since I basically re-made the vertex hack from scratch.

I'm almost finished with the Bandage Girl vertex hack (jeez, either I really am rusty with vertex hacking, or Jigglypuff is frustrating to hack properly). Everything else is now fine (ears and curl are completely gone), but her left arm is more twisted than it was beforehand. I'll try manually repairing it later tonight, but if that doesn't work, I might need some help getting it working properly from someone who knows what they're doing with vertex hacks.

But anyway, my brother's also working on porting a stage, which you can see part of in the background. I'm just trying to set up appropriate lighting for it (which I also kinda don't know how to do properly).
 

RandomTBush

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Something that RTB doesn't understand?!

We're screwed, you hear?! WE'RE ALL SCREWED!!
Er, completely disregard what I said earlier. Turns out I had to quadruple-patch it. Of course, it doesn't help that I haven't done anything related to Brawl hacking in about half a year. :dizzy:

Anyway, I just have to do some dinking around with the normals, and then it's ready for release... and then I'll start working on Dr. Fetus directly afterwards.

And as for the lighting, I'm gonna see if I can get it as closely to the original stage as possible. But copying the original lights value for value causes the game to crash. Odd.
 

TCRhade

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Razanak, I really look forward to controlling Golem Bowser and Razanak. They both reek of bad@ssery.
 

RandomTBush

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RTB.... I am LOVING the amount of detail that the stage in your screenshot has!!!!

What's it from?!
It's a port of the Manhattan stage from TMNT: Smash-Up. ApocHedgie (my brother) is working on it, and I'm gonna help by updating the lighting and adding shadows to it.
 

TommoPuppy

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Why exactly do Meat Boy and Bandage Girl need to be perfect cubes? We have the spare vertices anyway. Why not give them softer edges?
 

RandomTBush

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Why exactly do Meat Boy and Bandage Girl need to be perfect cubes? We have the spare vertices anyway. Why not give them softer edges?
Well, their in-game sprites and cutscene art depicts them as cubes, but now that you mention it, I should probably re-do the vertex hack one last time, and make it rounded at the edges. Either that, or save that for a potential revamp once I have a better idea how to completely remove Jigglypuff's ears and curl without leaving a stupidly-shaded spot where they used to be.

(That, and my idea of covering up the top of her head won't work with rounded edges...)
 

TommoPuppy

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Was just a thought, anyway. Your Bandage Girl looks great!

EDIT: Here's a little something something I'm working on. All I did was take the existing May vertex hack's head and combine it with the Female PT's body with a few adjustments.
BUT IT WON'T FREAKING PATCH AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!

Besides that obvious obstacle, I also gotta do the bag, as well as the collar and fixing some little details with the head, but that'll all be in vain if I can't even export it.
 

dark sonic 15

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Was just a thought, anyway. Your Bandage Girl looks great!

EDIT: Here's a little something something I'm working on. All I did was take the existing May vertex hack's head and combine it with the Female PT's body with a few adjustments.
BUT IT WON'T FREAKING PATCH AND I DON'T KNOW WHY!

Besides that obvious obstacle, I also gotta do the bag, as well as the collar and fixing some little details with the head, but that'll all be in vain if I can't even export it.
same here Tommo http://i53.tinypic.com/fqgjs.jpg
 

n64billy

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I'm so thankful that BrawlBox has a feature to export out .dae files.... :)
(FYI: This is just a test render from Maya, to see if I rigged him well enough... I'd say so. I'll be making a full animation with him in it, along with the Blazekin I rigged last year)

 

MonkUnit

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I'm so thankful that BrawlBox has a feature to export out .dae files.... :)
Whaaaaaaat.
(FYI: This is just a test render from Maya, to see if I rigged him well enough... I'd say so. I'll be making a full animation with him in it, along with the Blazekin I rigged last year)

O_____O
What character is that over? Toon Link?
EDIT: Or is that just a model not for brawl hacks? lol
 

GameWatching

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GET HYPE !
The Morton model can be exported :bee:
he just need moar than a 'double patch'.

as for FD, M0nk, i m gonna have some issues, cause school's back...
i can rarely use the PC...
but i'll try to finish it as soon as possible !
 

meleemaster500

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What character is that over? Toon Link?
EDIT: Or is that just a model not for brawl hacks? lol
ness
http://forums.kc-mm.com/Gallery/BrawlView.php?Number=15251

i use ais for all my exporting, it works fine with any brres, and I have it shortcutted on double click, so its pretty convienient. I'm not sure exactly the easiest way to do so, but brawl models can be exported with their bones and rigging, letting you use them automatically in 3ds
 

br3compactor

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It doesn't look like the Ness hack. Looks like it's the actual Sableye model. And it's not meant for Brawl hacking, it's for animation purposes.
 

meleemaster500

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yeah upon closer look, it's at least not that ness model. I mistoke it for the coincidence that that vertexture was made recently too. I couldn't care less about that texture, but I could imagine that detail's possible on a ness vertex.
 
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