Brawl+ Ness (SEVENTEEN ****ETY THREE)

AvariceX · Jul 27, 2009

It can do that in vBrawl actually (though extremely hard to space and time properly, so maybe that is changed).

Also I seem to have misplaced my SD card -_-

Deleted member · Jul 27, 2009

Thesage, I just recorded a few matches between my Ness and Minus's Kirby...I can put the replays on megaupload? Could you upload some?

If anyone wants to see an AMAZING kirby (and my ness)...

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6SOA935Y

Here's some replays. Toss em on your SD, unfortunately I am unable to youtube for you guys

CountKaiser · Jul 27, 2009

Delorted, that's using the 7/21 set, right?

Deleted member · Jul 27, 2009

yes .

CountKaiser · Jul 27, 2009

Well, that's weird, the replay is screwing up for me. Can you send me your gct file?

Lil'E · Jul 27, 2009

Yea, almost all of the replays are broken for me. D:

De-syncs and stuff.

Deleted member · Jul 27, 2009

Hm..sorry, I'm using the 22/07 set, not the 21.

CountKaiser · Jul 27, 2009

22/07? I assume you mean 7/22?

Could you upload your gct please? That way our desyncing woes will end.

PKNintendo · Jul 27, 2009

delorted1 said:
hm..sorry, I'm Using The 22/07 Set, Not The 21.

22/07

???

Deleted member · Jul 27, 2009

yea sorry about that :/ didnt realize therew asn't a 22 nightly, i thought there was. (thought the 22 was the small bug fix)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O9ROFQPS

that's my gct

Lil'E · Jul 27, 2009

Still desync for me. =/

PKNintendo · Jul 30, 2009

So... Anything interesting come up?

I got better at using Psi Magnet to gimp.

thesage · Jul 30, 2009

Well, I'm slowly working on the guide lol. Why don't we discuss matchups?

Go with the first one suggested (that isn't Lucas).

PKNintendo · Jul 30, 2009

Oh yeah Wario.

I'm here are some idea's.
Originally was a difficult opponent. He could gimp you, Fart on your predictable recovery and deal with Ness with relative ease.

In Brawl +, Ness was greatly buffed... But Wario is still a tough opponent.
Wario's not easy to combo either. He's heavy, and has a good recovery, a deadly combo. His aerial mobility is second to none. (overall) And he kills Ness relatively early.

I can't really see this being in Ness' favor or being even.

thesage · Jul 30, 2009

Never played a Wario in brawl+ =/

Deleted member · Jul 30, 2009

PKNintendo said:
So... Anything interesting come up?

I got better at using Psi Magnet to gimp.

There's probably better ways to gimp people :/

CountKaiser · Jul 30, 2009

Speaking of Psi Magnet, what are everyone's thoughts on it? Should it be kept, or swapped out for something else?

Alphatron · Jul 30, 2009

I like it. It's like an aerial way of saying, get the **** back when someone tries to edgeguard you. It's not a great gimper for Ness tho.

Now about the bat...smaller but stronger sweetspot?

PKNintendo · Jul 30, 2009

CountKaiser said:
Speaking of Psi Magnet, what are everyone's thoughts on it? Should it be kept, or swapped out for something else?

I am fan of the new psi magnet.
And smaller hit box for a stronger bat is a huge debate.

Its strong but lacks knockback. But the range makes landing sweet spot (and landing it period)
is much more awesome.

CountKaiser · Jul 30, 2009

Most people never had trouble hitting with the bat before, they just wanted a KB boost.

I support the stronger, yet smaller bat.

Thunderhorse+ · Jul 30, 2009

CountKaiser said:
Speaking of Psi Magnet, what are everyone's thoughts on it? Should it be kept, or swapped out for something else?

It's broken. Ness' best (and only good) move. More attacks need to be like Down B.

Keep it. Or else I lose all reason for playing Ness.

CountKaiser · Jul 30, 2009

Only good move? Surely you jest.

Also, if the psi magnet is what's making you play ness, did you ever play ness before the psi magnet? Just wondering.

Mr. Escalator · Jul 30, 2009

PSI magnet defines Ness. It's his signature move.
If you change it, you are destroying the Ness we all know and love.

p.s. it's by far his most broken move. It may be the MOST broken move in the game.

Thunderhorse+ · Jul 30, 2009

CountKaiser said:
Surely you jest.

I never jest.

No, I have never played Ness before the psi magnet buff except just to humiliate people with. But after the responses I got from HERB 2 about the move, I'm determined to make double Ness down B spam work in doubles :chuckle:

.

*** MrEsc took the words right out of my mouth.

SnowballBob33 · Jul 30, 2009

Sry, im not a nub, i just don't kno what ness Psi moves are called. which is magnet? and how is it broken

Deleted member · Jul 30, 2009

Hahaha man that post was hilarious, I never noticed it =D

PKNintendo · Jul 30, 2009

Yeah Psi magnet is the new Ness fad.

It's broken and can swing matchups around easily.

CountKaiser · Jul 30, 2009

So wait, psi magnet is broken now?

That's hilarious. I need to try it out more.

PKNintendo · Jul 30, 2009

CountKaiser said:
So wait, psi magnet is broken now?

That's hilarious. I need to try it out more.

It's a fad.

But the real question was why wasn't it broken in Brawl?
Sakurai locked it away.

Thunderhorse+ · Jul 30, 2009

PKNintendo said:
It's a fact.

fix'd

InfiniteNessDownBs

CountKaiser · Jul 30, 2009

Why it wasn't broken in vBrawl

Wind effect was largely ineffectual, and the hitbox was smaller.

Also, Ness didn't have SA for the startup of the magnet.

And I'm not fond of the term fad. It implies that while the magnet is useful now, it will eventually be worked around and no longer considered a threat, at least that is what the word implies.

Lil'E · Jul 30, 2009

CountKaiser said:
Why it wasn't broken in vBrawl

Wind effect was largely ineffectual, and the hitbox was smaller.

Also, Ness didn't have SA for the startup of the magnet.

And I'm not fond of the term fad. It implies that while the magnet is useful now, it will eventually be worked around and no longer considered a threat, at least that is what the word implies.

Now that is fact.

thesage · Jul 31, 2009

lolthunderhorse. We need to upload some matches from the brawl+ tournament tomorrow (If I make it)

~tgm_Zeej · Jul 31, 2009

Eating a Snake dash attack and pushing him off the edge with the Magnet into a spike must be how all Smash moves work in heaven. >_>

I love the Magnet.

Thunderhorse+ · Jul 31, 2009

thesage said:
lolthunderhorse. We need to upload some matches from the brawl+ tournament tomorrow (If I make it)

Hellz yeaaaaah.

Also you're making it if I have to make the drive down there and drag you myself.

thesage · Jul 31, 2009

Thunderhorse+ said:
Hellz yeaaaaah.

Also you're making it if I have to make the drive down there and drag you myself.

lolz

In case people are wondering, I'm listening to this while writing the guide... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hmx6dQJf_rk&feature=PlayList&p=81244C4B02EA46CA&index=0&playnext=1

One time I did psi magnet to dair and it was lolz.

Did anybody investigate stagespiking with psi magnet?

PKNintendo · Jul 31, 2009

Hehe sweet. That's a good song.
Can't wait.

(favorited)

thesage · Jul 31, 2009

I'm slowly updating the guide. You can see some progress in the first post. I hope to be finished by next weekend.

PKNintendo · Jul 31, 2009

Sounds awesome.

ace_brawler2 · Aug 2, 2009

I'm using the 7/21 codeset and I noticed that if you double jump close to the ground, ness kindof enters an airdodge state.

If it was there in vbrawl I never noticed it.

So far its cost me two matches.

Have any of you guys heard of it?

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