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Boost Walking
- Thread starter saviorslegacy
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CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Oh, not Forward smash, I was talking about the tilts. I can get the forward smash. In fact, I told the Luigi's about it a while back, how if they use Atomsk's WAH! WAH! WAH! WAH! style they should incorporate the slide into it. buuuut, I can't get anyone's tilts to slide :/ Is there a timing I'm doing wrong or something?
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Ah, I asked them about this and they just told me another way to get the momentum slide.
I have barely tested this and IDK if you can tilt slide. It is possible though since the mechanics are there.
Does anyone know how to stop a Smash during it's charge so that it is never performed?
Mclena45
Smash Apprentice
Strange... Even with all your button suggestions, I still can't seem to get it working...
Also, I don't think I'm willing to give up a button, other then Z, for attack or Jump... Shielding is important! I need both L and R buttons or I'll get messed up in a match >.>... I don't think its particularly needed right now if you need to give up one of the two buttons. You mean to shield but attack instead, leaving yourself wide open to an attack, most likely a KOing attack.
Also, I don't think I'm willing to give up a button, other then Z, for attack or Jump... Shielding is important! I need both L and R buttons or I'll get messed up in a match >.>... I don't think its particularly needed right now if you need to give up one of the two buttons. You mean to shield but attack instead, leaving yourself wide open to an attack, most likely a KOing attack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCA5hTvZIYM#t=2m36s
Watch the whole video if you want. This is Marth's dash momentum canceled pivot grab(shown at the end of your video in random, but you don't grab anyone) You might want to take a look at the range on this thing.
Some moves purposely stop all sliding momentum. Make a custom stage of a long ice path, use Falco's firebird horizontally, and then jab. You'll see what I'm talking about.
Watch the whole video if you want. This is Marth's dash momentum canceled pivot grab(shown at the end of your video in random, but you don't grab anyone) You might want to take a look at the range on this thing.
Some moves purposely stop all sliding momentum. Make a custom stage of a long ice path, use Falco's firebird horizontally, and then jab. You'll see what I'm talking about.
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
I only have my L button set to attack. I perform it with default controls.
I actually used a Boost Walk Canceled Pivot Grab.
You however seem to be performing a Moon Walk! O-o
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
That is amazing. does this increase the grab range of all charecters, or just marth for some weird reason?
GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
ive had level 9 cpus do this to me. i always wondered why they moved awkwardly at times and land hits unexpectedly. they must use the dash frames to increase length and momentum
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
That's what it looks like....
To bad I sucketh to much to do anything further than show this vid.....
chaosscizzors
Smash Journeyman
i've done that "moonwalk" a couple of times before from messing up a DD. >_>
it was kinda interesting too, i got dashes and walks to link up seamlessly at least once. i just kinda figured it was a true pivot or w/e they call it, where you cancel the DD with any action, and i just happened to be holding the analog lightly in the opposite direction at the time.
it was kinda interesting too, i got dashes and walks to link up seamlessly at least once. i just kinda figured it was a true pivot or w/e they call it, where you cancel the DD with any action, and i just happened to be holding the analog lightly in the opposite direction at the time.
skstylez
Smash Journeyman
this is brawl+ but a similar walk (stickywalk) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ233C3gJT0&feature=channel_page
I have not tried it in regular Brawl
I have not tried it in regular Brawl
GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
u can definitely do that in brawl, u just dash out of a walk into a slow run
but thats not whats happening in that vid
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
I know it was Brawl+. I figured someone would notice the Ike thing. However, they never hacked the dash animation.
You can perform every dash AT in B+.
I was afraid if I mentioned it was Brawl+ then it would get less attention.
But it is in Brawl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctELDVLn8M
*1:40
BTW, I have performed a sticky walk in slo mo but I still can't get that boost at the end.
:EDIT:
The dyscn'd version of this he runs into a roll dodge.
Probably not helpful, but there it is.
Hmmmm.... we should interview the CPU's and ask them for their secrets.
CPU tech skill > human tech skill
You can perform every dash AT in B+.
I was afraid if I mentioned it was Brawl+ then it would get less attention.
But it is in Brawl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctELDVLn8M
*1:40
BTW, I have performed a sticky walk in slo mo but I still can't get that boost at the end.
:EDIT:
The dyscn'd version of this he runs into a roll dodge.
Probably not helpful, but there it is.
Hmmmm.... we should interview the CPU's and ask them for their secrets.
CPU tech skill > human tech skill
GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
being a jiggz main, my jigglypuff cpu is the hardest of the bunch.I know it was Brawl+. I figured someone would notice the Ike thing. However, they never hacked the dash animation.
You can perform every dash AT in B+.
I was afraid if I mentioned it was Brawl+ then it would get less attention.
But it is in Brawl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kctELDVLn8M
*1:40
BTW, I have performed a sticky walk in slo mo but I still can't get that boost at the end.
:EDIT:
The dyscn'd version of this he runs into a roll dodge.
Probably not helpful, but there it is.
Hmmmm.... we should interview the CPU's and ask them for their secrets.
CPU tech skill > human tech skill
the other day i was messing around against it and it sounded like it was crouch taunting ( i heard a bloop bloop noice), but instead it slid into me and rested, i was like WTF!!!
it was too long to replay tho, damit
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
You can Boost Pivot by ducking.
Anth0ny
Smash Master
This is cool. Moonwalking is too fun.
Both in Smash and in real life.
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Both in Smash and in real life.
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GeneralWoodman
Smash Lord
it wasn't a pivot tho
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
kennypu
Smash Journeyman
I'm not going to read any of the replies, but this is easily done with every character (I've done it with few so I am assuming) . All you have to do is Smash-Tap a direction so your initial running animation starts, then quickly set the stick back to neutral position. If done correctly, this will happen. It is very easy to do once you get the hang of it.
T-block
B2B TST
I'm a little confused... can someone give me every input needed for Falco to do the dash pivot -> u-smash thing?
SuSa
Banned via Administration
Dash, pivot, usmash.
Amazing. Ain't it?
Amazing. Ain't it?
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
*Susa for President
Hey, we voted in the last guy because he could talk fancy so why not Susa?
WoodyWiggins
Smash Journeyman
SuSa = President. Yay!
Nice to see your research coming along, saviorslegacy! First the Pivot Walk, now the Moonwalk, what next?
chaosscizzors
Smash Journeyman
i used to do this all the time, but that's not what i was referring to. i was transitioning between dash dances and boost walking without any lag.
i thought it was odd but i figured it was already known.
WoodyWiggins
Smash Journeyman
*Imitates saviorslegacy
Yes, please go right ahead.
But on serious note PFANT, how much win does this technique have? 'Cause the way the cpu did it, seems way too risky to perform in an actual battle. However if you could use this to evade smash attacks, and even punish them with a smash attack, it would be worth the risk.
This technique=
Walk forward...Smash-tap dash the opposite direction...move the control stick to the original direction as fast as you can without starting a dash.
I'd love to see a good video of every character though
Walk forward...Smash-tap dash the opposite direction...move the control stick to the original direction as fast as you can without starting a dash.
I'd love to see a good video of every character though
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Lemme perfect it and run some more tests.
Notice how quickly the CPU performed? This is a lightning fast approach technique.*Imitates saviorslegacy
Yes, please go right ahead.
But on serious note PFANT, how much win does this technique have? 'Cause the way the cpu did it, seems way too risky to perform in an actual battle. However if you could use this to evade smash attacks, and even punish them with a smash attack, it would be worth the risk.
:EDIT:
I just cracked the puzzle.
Notice how he was walking BEFORE he performed it?
Well, if you walk and then fix trot in the reverse direction it is sticky walk.
When he pivoted he gained momentum from the pivot and still had a little bit of momentum from the walk. This resulted in left of momentum after he stop moving. In other words, momentum while not performing any action is a slide.
:EDIT:
I just noticed this post.This technique=
Walk forward...Smash-tap dash the opposite direction...move the control stick to the original direction as fast as you can without starting a dash.
I'd love to see a good video of every character though
I hate you (j/k)
Well, at least there are two people saying the same thing. I guess that pretty much makes the info legit.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Okay, now why did his grab range become so huge?
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
I am guessing because you have a left, right, left (or switched) momentum shift that it glitch's it and the game doesn't read Marths position correctly. Thus stretching the grab box.
That is my opinion.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Would it do the same for DDD?
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Which is what messed me up the most.
The walking factor makes this soooo hard.
I'll make a video and do some more research. Tommy, Wiggins, if you want to help me with research than it is more than appreciated.
So we don't make fools of ourselves lets give this at least a one week buffer.
I'll make a private social group and invite you two.
If anyone else wants to help just ask.
When we have our sticks and stones all together then we'll make a new thread showing our findings.
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
Just a thought based on what happened with the Marth in that vidoe, if it caused his grab to become so disjointed, could it possibly make all attacks disjointed, giving characters higher 'priority' ?
WoodyWiggins
Smash Journeyman
I actually have a little free time available, so I'm game! What happen to your sheik avatar and sig? I didn't even recognize you.
I don't feel like testing this just now, but I'm pretty sure the range increase on marth's grab is just an illusion. As you know, when marth turns around and does the ZAD (Zero Acceleration Dash, which is the name I learned for it), he isn't simply pivoting, he's dashing. When he grabs out of the ZAD, it's a dash grab, however, unlike a normal dash grab, he actually stand still while doing it. In a normal one, he grabs the character, and simultaneously moves forward. I'm pretty sure that grabbing out of a ZAD doesn't technically increase the dash grab range. On the other hand, it's halfway between a dash grab and a pivot grab, in that you aren't moving towards the opponent while grabbing, nor moving away; but staying perfectly still, while retaining the same grab range (a dash grab's range; significantly more range than if marth stopped, turned around, and performed a standing grab.)
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
I likes the idea.
Not sure if it would work though. Mainly because that was a grabbing frame. Of course, that is just a thought.
Hmmmm.... this would give some people broken walls.
If it would be possible, I wonder he would become broken?
MK wouldn't gain much since his ground attacks are d-tilt (don't think it would work that well since you would have to duck), f-tilt (since it has multiple hits my idea would only say that the first would become disjointed), u-tilt (not much gain) and Dash attack (lol). It might beef his grab rnge though.
I see this helping Sheik though. A disjointed sliding f-tilt sounds really lethal (even though f-tilt is already is disjointed).
cool
lol, I just wanted to get a Wolverine set.
I really like that Sheik avy so I'll use it again. Right now though, Hugh Jackmen is my forum set.
ps Any idea how to make a user group?
@Pleather
good idea
CRASHiC
Smash Hero
I hope it doesn't help anything other than jabs, because then Snake's uptilt is just lol.