So if I'm moving whatsoever, I should never get killed by any melee weapon except the ballistic knife? I'm certainly willing to test that if you'd like.
How did they screw up the melee system again? You don't even have to spend a point on the knife. Comes with free lunges! Oh, and they actually give you two knives if you don't use a secondary. Only two? Tough life.
Same argument as nubs who snipe. "If it's so good, why don't I drop 500 kills with it?" Because that's not the ****ing point for God's sake. The point is that everything else considered, it isn't balanced in terms of everything else in the game. It's too easy and too accessible. Hell, just having a knife renders the shotguns useless in most CoD games.
Just because I say sniping is OP doesn't mean I expect to drop a million kills with it. The point is that it's stupidly easy to use and hilarious to reward people with 1 shot kills to the foot. It can be a balanced weapon if it has a decent amount of short, random idle sway when you pull up the scope and only 1 shots people if you hit them in the head or torso.
Same goes for the knife. If the knife was a one shot to the back and a 2 shot to the front for a knife to kill, it would work fine. Or if it was just a 2 hit in general with very little cooldown time. The point is that it doesn't work with the way the game currently plays out. You shouldn't win a gunfight with a knife when I'm shooting you with a submachine gun from 5 feet away. It makes no sense and defeats the purpose of me using that type of gun.
Obviously I'm exaggerating, the point being made is it dumb trying to knife in this game, it's probably like 3-4 swings average before you actually hit someone with the knife.
What does point spending or amount of knives you get matter? Doesn't change the fact that it's bad. It'd just be nice if knives would actually connect when I'm trying to hit someone
Actually that is the point, when you say "OP" I'm not sure if you know what that actually means but it's an acronym for "overpowered", not "overly easy to use". And what are you talking about the the shotgun nonsense? Shotgun 1 shot kills someone up close 90% of the time...somewhere you have to be to get a knife kill. Yes, I agree quickscoping is too easy for a 1 shot kill in this game, but it's not "OPed" at all, I don't mind playing against 6 people that are running around quickscoping the whole game because it is still bad and it just means I'm about to get an easy win and my KD is going to go up a lot, not something I really mind. It just sucks that they ruined something fun and cool to do like quickscoping that used to actually be challenging back in games like COD4, it's definitely not something that ruins the game.
It's a video game it doesn't have to make sense, if you want stuff to make sense then you probably shouldn't be playing video games in general and lol at "defeats the purpose of using that type of gun". No you probably shouldn't be losing a gun fight like that so maybe you should try putting rapid fire on it or try to aim for the upper body? That might help instead of blaming the game, if he's actually that up close to you to actually hit the knife before you can literally not kill him, then good on him for getting that close to you on the first place. You got outplayed get over it.
I'm not really sure on how else to relate this to anything but smash (brawl), but that's kind of my expertise so I will even though I know most of you guys don't play smash, but Game and Watch is generally considered an easy character to play, not a lot of tech skill involved, uses very basic stuff to get the job done, can be annoying because of his smash attacks are disjointed, lots of shield stun and shield push back, kills very easy, basically hard to punish them with little risk-reward to worry about so they can kind of be thrown out there, but damn is he bad gets countered by so many other things that doesn't make him very viable.
Stop the reflex ****, please. It has nothing to do with that. If you aren't aware, EVERY SINGLE GAME will have lag. EVERY one. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Doesn't matter if you're host or not, you'll have some amount of lag whether it's a large amount or a very small amount. That's part of what makes it stupid. Knifing through bullets is all thanks to lag, which is completely unavoidable.
That being said, my reflexes in those situations mean nothing. I can 100% guarantee you that no one I play in pubs has better reflexes than I do. Guarantee it. You'd puke if you saw the amount of times I've shot someone and wrongfully died to the knife because none of my bullets connected. Again, that will happen in _every_ game.
What's the problem with the knife being a 2 hit kill with cooldown? I don't get it.
Actually, nope you're wrong, reflexes is most of it. Yes, you will always have lag since you are playing an online game, usually it's insignificant enough to ignore (or at least for the better part of the majority of the lobby). I doubt you're losing knife battles just because the other guy has a slightly better internet connection to the host than you, if it's a lot better then sure I can understand that, but not by just a bit. Just suck it up, you lost the reflex better, better luck next time. I mean, maybe you're just getting into lobbies with people from South America every game so IDK.
Oh man, if you are 100% your reflexes are so godly compared to everyone else's, people that you have never met and know nothing about, then damn you're either a psychic or you're in the world record books for fastest reflex's alive, excuse me for not knowing such things /sarcasm.
I was just literally laughing that you can guarantee me you're reflex's are just so much more off the charts than people you have absolutely 0 idea who they are.
I'd probably be puking about how much you're raging over it actually.
Like I said, the only bad thing about knifing is just the fact that there is host advantage in the game, but that affects guns also. A lot of it would just be fixed if they put up dedicated servers since there is no "host advantage". If you're actually getting consistently knifed (ESPECIALLY in this game) by someone in a somewhat decent connection then there is something wrong with the way you're playing, not the game. Just man up and take the fault, no johns. You have NO idea how dumb knifing is on the knifers side in this game if you even think it's remotely too good. I mean, I find knifers annoying too, but I can at least say that I'm getting outplayed if I'm constantly dieing to them. I went for the diamond camo on the special weapons and that requires me going for challenges for both the ballistic knife and the combat knife (and riot shield, I think riot shield meleeing is probably even worse since you have to be able to hit them 2 times and you're going as slow as a turtle). Challenges like getting 5 blood thirsty medals with the combat knife is one of the stupidest things ever and I don't really think you have much credibility in saying how "OP" the knife is in this game until you try going for stuff like that.
edit: and I actually wouldn't mind too much if they made knife 2 hit kill, as long as they put it back so knifing actually worked instead of people going at the speed of crouching dodged knives just because they were moving. Meleeing's hit detection in this game is just too bad, if my knife is sticking in someone's body they should be dead. They literally made the hitbox of the knife like...just the knife. It's a lot worse than any other COD game.