Best character in each category?

[=)@MePlz]

Updates:
3-20-09: Start of thread
3-20-09: Revamp of Categories (Ussi)
3-22-09: Newly added categories (Counter, Power)

Hello everyone.
To help many people (including myself), I have made a list of catagories for characters such as...

Combos:
Shiek :shiek:
Diddy
Peach
ZSS

Grab (non-tether; range):
Olimar
DDD
Charizard

Camper:
Olimar
Snake
Toon link

General Attack Range:
DDD
ZSS

Aerial Range:
Ike

Ground Range:
DK
Ike

Zair:
Samus
Link

Planking:
MK

Comebacks:
Lucario

Being Green:
Luigi (and only him)

Recovery:
MK
Jigglypuff
ROB

Ground Speed:
Sonic
Captain Falcon

Air Speed:
Yoshi
Jigglypuff

Air acceleration:
Wario

Air Dodge:
MK

Gimping:

Roll:
Lucario

Counter (power):
Lucario
Ike

Power:
Ike
Ganondorf
Bowser
Snake

Comedic/Lulz:
Captain Falcon


Remember that this thread is changing, including characters and categories. If need of more categories, just reply.

 

[OFY]

Combos: Diddy

Camping: Snake

Defensive: DDD i think?

Offensive: MK

Range: Range in attacks or in like grabs and such?

i would say marth in attacks and ddd in grab range

Overall: Mk

 

[A N D R E]

Offensive: Metaknight - For obvious reasons! I don't really need to mention his lagless attacks, numerous unpunishable approaches, and other cheesy tactics. (But I did anyway.)

Defensive: Snake - Lots of shield and nade tricksies.

Campy: Snake

Combos: Sheik baby. YAYUHZZZZ

Range: Umm... there are many ways for characters to utilize their range, but I'm going to say Olimar since his grab range is too good lol.

Overall: Metaknight. He's #1 for a reason

 

[=)@MePlz]

Combos: Diddy

Camping: Snake

Defensive: DDD i think?

Offensive: MK

Range: Range in attacks or in like grabs and such?

i would say marth in attacks and ddd in grab range

Overall: Mk

For combos, Lucario and Sheik. Diddy NEEDS naners, which can be used against him.

Camping: ROB

 

[=)@MePlz]

Offensive: Metaknight - For obvious reasons! I don't really need to mention his lagless attacks, numerous unpunishable approaches, and other cheesy tactics. (But I did anyway.)

Defensive: Snake - Lots of shield and nade tricksies.

Campy: Snake

Combos: Sheik baby. YAYUHZZZZ

Range: Umm... there are many ways for characters to utilize their range, but I'm going to say Olimar since his grab range is too good lol.

Overall: Metaknight. He's #1 for a reason

ROB for campy as well. Gyro+Laser=Win.

Lucario with Sheik for combos

 

[Jaigoda]

Offensive: MK, hands down.

Defensive: Marth

Campy: Olimar, Snake, D3,

Combos: Shiek, Diddy, maybe Lucario

Range: Ike, D3 (Ftilt and grab)

Overall: MK, hands down.

EDIT:

For combos, Lucario and Sheik. Diddy NEEDS naners, which can be used against him.

Camping: ROB

Shiek NEEDS to get an ftilt off, which can be used against her. Lucario NEEDS Fair/Force Palm, which can be used against him. Just because you rely on something doesn't mean it's not good.

And Snake/Olimar is generally a better camper than ROB.

 

[ndayday]

I honestly think that you can't divide characters into categories, it is the playstyle a person plays the character like that determines that. For example, Bob could play a really 'agressive' Diddy. John plays a really campy Diddy. It doesn't make sense now does it? You can't say, "Oh, Diddy is campy." You make the character that way, they aren't made that way.

So, you can't categorize characters like this. Maybe playstyles, but not characters.

 

[Jaigoda]

I honestly think that you can't divide characters into categories, it is the playstyle a person plays the character like that determines that. For example, Bob could play a really 'agressive' Diddy. John plays a really campy Diddy. It doesn't make sense now does it? You can't say, "Oh, Diddy is campy." You make the character that way, they aren't made that way.

So, you can't categorize characters this way. Maybe playstyles, but not characters.

Obviously this is talking about which characters are the most inclined to a specific playstyle. Marth plays best when defensive, Olimar pretty much HAS to camp, MK generally needs to stay aggressive to maintain pressure since he has no projectile, etc.

 

[A N D R E]

Hahah, yeah, campy ROBS are too good. The sidestep-dsmash spamming along with gyro/laser camping is STILL viable even after a year of Brawl being out.

Diddy's combos are good too, Lucario's are alright, but not on par with Diddy's. Sheik's are too hot to ignore (even though they're not as good as diddy's, I still consider them better than Lucario's xD)

 

[Jaigoda]

Umm, Shiek can combo Fox from like 30% to death (tipper Usmash at around 90%). How is that not better than Diddy's combos?

EDIT: I also think a balanced category would do well, since a lot of characters can play both defensive and offensive depending on the situation.

 

[Ussi]

Combos: ZSS (stun)

Grab: Olimar

Camper: Olimar

General Attack range: DDD

Aerial Range: Ike

Ground Range: DK

Zair: Samus

Planking: MK

Comebacks: Lucario

Being Green: Luigi

Recovery: MK

ground speed: Sonic

Air Speed: Yoshi

Air acceleration: Wario

Air dodge: MK

 

[A N D R E]

Umm, Shiek can combo Fox from like 30% to death (tipper Usmash at around 90%). How is that not better than Diddy's combos?

That's just Fox. (She can do it to Wolf, Falcon, and Falco too lol, to a degree.) Diddy's combos can be used on pretty much any character as long as they are on the ground. When I talk about Sheik's combos, I mean cooler stuff like soft nair -> ftilt -> hard nair. Or double jab -> grab options. Watching a Sheik with a good flow of attacks is beautiful. (aka watching my own sheik, YAYUHZZ)

Combos: ZSS (stun)

Grab: Olimar

Camper: Olimar

Attack range: DDD

Aerial Range: Ike

Ground Range: DK

Zair: Samus

Planking: MK

Comebacks: Lucario

Being Green: Luigi

Recovery: MK

Fastest ground speed: Jiggs (rollout)

Fastest Air Speed: Yoshi

Fastest Air acceleration: Wario

Air dodge: MK

lol @ creating new topics

 

[Jaigoda]

If I knew you were Choknater, I totally would have taken your word for it. <3's your Shiek.

 

[A N D R E]

Hahah, I guess I'm flattered. Even though my videos are many months old, they are still okay. (I am WAY faster and better now.)

 

[=)@MePlz]

I honestly think that you can't divide characters into categories, it is the playstyle a person plays the character like that determines that. For example, Bob could play a really 'agressive' Diddy. John plays a really campy Diddy. It doesn't make sense now does it? You can't say, "Oh, Diddy is campy." You make the character that way, they aren't made that way.

So, you can't categorize characters like this. Maybe playstyles, but not characters.

Can you calm down? It's generalizing.

For example...

Have you seen a defensive MK?

 

[=)@MePlz]

Combos: ZSS (stun)

Grab: Olimar

Camper: Olimar

General Attack range: DDD

Aerial Range: Ike

Ground Range: DK

Zair: Samus

Planking: MK

Comebacks: Lucario

Being Green: Luigi

Recovery: MK

ground speed: Sonic

Air Speed: Yoshi

Air acceleration: Wario

Air dodge: MK

Thanks for the new topics.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

Wario's Air Dodge is the stuff of Legends.

You should add Gimping as a section.

And I'm unsure what you mena by Grabs. If you mean how good the throws are once you've grabbed someone, then Ice Climbers duh. If you mean how good the grab is, then Charizard duh.

Zair IS Aerial range it shouldn't be an extra category.

Luigi's recovery is only that good distance wise. People like Jigglypuff and R.O.B are better candidates.

If Air Dodge is a category why not rolls. If you add rolls then obviously Lucario is the first one to come to mind.

 

[Lemonwater]

Combos:
MK

Grab:
Dedede

Camper:
Snake

General Attack Range:
Ike

Aerial Range:
Ike

Ground Range:
DK

Zair:
Samus

Planking:
MK

Comebacks:
Lucario

Being Green:
Link

Recovery:
MK

Ground Speed:
Sonic

Air Speed:
Yoshi

Air acceleration:
Wario

Air Dodge:
Wario

 

[ShinyMewtwo]

I think Ike should have ground range, but that's all I disagree on. Ike sword is HUGE!

 

[=)@MePlz]

Wario's Air Dodge is the stuff of Legends.

You should add Gimping as a section.

And I'm unsure what you mena by Grabs. If you mean how good the throws are once you've grabbed someone, then Ice Climbers duh. If you mean how good the grab is, then Charizard duh.

Zair IS Aerial range it shouldn't be an extra category.

Luigi's recovery is only that good distance wise. People like Jigglypuff and R.O.B are better candidates.

If Air Dodge is a category why not rolls. If you add rolls then obviously Lucario is the first one to come to mind.

*adds gimping as section*

By grabs, I mean range. I'll clarify.

Luigi has a better vertical distance than Jiggly anyway.

I will add rolls.

Thanks.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

*adds gimping as section*

By grabs, I mean range. I'll clarify.

Luigi has a better vertical distance than Jiggly anyway.

I will add rolls.

Thanks.

Then add Charizard to Grab Range no question it's bigger then DeDeDe's for example and add Captain Falcon to Ground Speed. Is there a limit to people per category? Top 3? Top 5?

 

[Freezewish]

Camp=Falco, Snake, Olimar

 

[AranOcean]

Combos:
MK

Grab:
Dedede

Camper:
Snake

General Attack Range:
Ike

Aerial Range:
Ike

Ground Range:
DK

Zair:
Samus

Planking:
MK

Comebacks:
Lucario

Being Green:
LUIGI

Recovery:
MK

Ground Speed:
Sonic

Air Speed:
Yoshi

Air acceleration:
Wario

Air Dodge:
Wario

fixed for ya.

 

[GwJ]

I'm pretty sure Charizard's grab range is larger than DDD's.

 

[=)@MePlz]

Then add Charizard to Grab Range no question it's bigger then DeDeDe's for example and add Captain Falcon to Ground Speed. Is there a limit to people per category? Top 3? Top 5?

wait...D3 DOES have the largest...

then Charizard...

then Marth (she-male)


No, there's not a limit per se, but I'll limit to 5.

 

[=)@MePlz]

I'm pretty sure Charizard's grab range is larger than DDD's.

No...

Charizard's the second-largest

then Marth

Talk to the D3 boards about that.

 

[ExCeL 52]

This is blasphamy.
Peach doesn't get the combo section?
Are you ****ing ****ting me?

 

[=)@MePlz]

Being Green:
Link

Umm... Only Mr. L can be green.

It's Murphy's Law.

 

[=)@MePlz]

This is blasphamy.
Peach doesn't get the combo section?
Are you ****ing ****ting me?

Calm down. I'll find space.

A lot of people complain who does/doesn't deserve the "combo" section.

 

[Kitamerby]

Hello everyone.
To help many people (including myself), I have made a list of catagories for characters such as...

Combos:
Meta Knight

Kill Potential:
Meta Knight

Grab (range):
Meta Knight

Camper:
Meta Knight

General Attack Range:
Meta Knight

Aerial Range:
Meta Knight

Ground Range:
Meta Knight

Zair:
Samus
Meta Knight

Planking:
Meta Knight

Comebacks:
Meta Knight

Being Green:
Green Meta Knight

Recovery:
Meta Knight

Ground Speed:
Meta Knight

Air Speed:
Meta Knight

Air acceleration:
Meta Knight

Air Dodge:
Meta Knight

Gimping:
Meta Knight

Roll:
Lucario
Meta Knight

Comedic/Lulz:
Meta Knight
Captain Falcon

If need of more categories, just reply.

I fixed it for you.


Prove me wrong if you dare.

 

[Ussi]

Remove Wario from AD, ONLY MK has should be on the AD list. ALL NEWCOMERS (but Sonic and Lucas) HAVE THE BEST AD but MK has ONE MORE FRAME of invincibility than everyone else. AD would be too long of a list otherwise. If anything, put MK then under him ALL newcomers minus Lucas and Sonic.


Oh and how is Lucario and DDD not being considered in Ground range?? DDD has longer than Ike and Lucario is as long as Ike.

How is ZSS NOT on Combos? Dsmash combos into EVERYTHING.

Luigi's recovery is not the BEST. MK, Jiggs, ROB are enough.

Charizard's grab range is longer than DDD's

 

[Fire!]

Add gimping.

 

[Plum]

Captain Falcon actually has INSANE amounts of combos.
He can combo into an inescapable Falcon Punch even
Mario is also a combo *****. Just watch anything Boss related (And the comboing isn't just because it is Boss... He just takes it to a new level).

How about adding juggling?
Being a bit biased I would then put G&W there... Nair on its own would be enough, and then give him Uair and he literally decides when you land on the ground.

 

[ellelaby]

Most obesed: Bowser

Cutest: Jigglypuff

Most unworthy of being in the game: Snake... Sonic.

 

[Bluebottel]

Combos:
MK

Grab:
MK

Camper:
MK

General Attack Range:
MK

Aerial Range:
MK

Ground Range:
MK

Zair:
MK

Planking:
MK

Comebacks:
MK

Being Green:
MK

Recovery:
MK

Ground Speed:
MK

Air Speed:
MK

Air acceleration:
MK

Air Dodge:
MK


There, i said it. Now kill this thread before it hurts someone else.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

wait...D3 DOES have the largest...

then Charizard...

Nope. Other way round.

If it's top 5 then there's no point in having Zair as a category, there's only 3 characters with one...Like I said Zair just means they have long aerial range.

 

[Browny]

Falco easily has the best combos.
and luigis recovery isnt good enough to be near the top.

 

[KRiMz0N]

Prove me wrong if you dare.

mk is srs bsnss

 

[brinboy789]

Remove Wario from AD, ONLY MK has should be on the AD list. ALL NEWCOMERS (but Sonic and Lucas) HAVE THE BEST AD but MK has ONE MORE FRAME of invincibility than everyone else. AD would be too long of a list otherwise. If anything, put MK then under him ALL newcomers minus Lucas and Sonic.

i am 99.99% sure that wario and ike have the best AD's, not MK

 

[Ussi]

Most obesed: Bowser

Cutest: Jigglypuff

Most unworthy of being in the game: Snake... Sonic.

NEVER! ITS PIKACHU!

i am 99.99% sure that wario and ike have the best AD's, not MK

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=225510

Look for yourself.