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LOL, that is so true it's funny. I even rely on this as a kill move against Sheik. if I notice her nair is stale enough, I will take the hit and respond with my own nair as a counter kill. The staleness definitely hurts her against characters like that.Peach and Luigi are also troublesome matchups, as those are the two that involve long-lasting attacks that beat out just about anything Sheik does. It's very annoying. Improper decay will lead to a lot of your "combos" getting mashed out of by nair.
Considering the fact that the Sheik is most likely wearing Leather armor over her chest piece to add to the guise of a male, you could be wrong.It's a magical guise, not a costume, therefore gender change is easily possible, considering eye color also changes and "breast size" is dramatically decreased and outlined as male pectorals as clearly indicated in the above artwork. Also, it is the official opinion of Nintendo that the disguise changes Zelda's body magically (lol don't ask why I know this, but I read it in Nintendo Power many years ago). Also, Sheik has only ever been referred to in-game as a man. >.>
This, one of the main issues with Zelda is that...while she can kill, she sucks overall and is risky to use. Hence even if Zelda is being used for her kill power, it can quickly result in things being reversed.Also, I agree that Zelda may be absolutely necessary to getting kills, but I've seen whole matches turned around when Zelda just got destroyed by the other player who was losing, and her recovery gimped, giving the losing player the sudden lead. Are there any good Sheik mains who have been able to make Zelda work for them well in this capacity? I think the worst thing about Zelda/Sheik is that the game doesn't automatically load both characters when you start a match, making the transformation take so long while it loads the other character each time. Poor planning.
Sheik doesn't really have a problematic map IIRC.What exactly is a problematic "map"?
One should never ever ever spam the dolphin slash OOS. Becomes far too easy to read. yes Sheik can punish with needles if Marth makes an error, the thing is that he stands to gain more than he stands to lose.No seriously, Marth can zone but he has to do it up-close and carefully, 'cause a falling fair on shield can be punished with dash attack and just throwing out aerials from out of range is punishable with needles. I mean, you can throw out up+Bs to catch the shield punishes, but too many of those and you'll just get read and hit hard for something that has you in the air for like two whole seconds.
Same. Sometimes I think Sheik is underrated, othertimes I think she's placed pretty much where she should be. I think she could stand to move up, but it's really a hard call since there are so few Sheik mains.I'm really unsure what to think about Sheik. On paper she seems really good, but I haven't seen many Sheiks doing extremely stellar in American tournaments.
That being said, we have a few Sheiks here in Europe who do surprisingly good usually...
That sums up like... my personal feelings as well...Whenever I play Shiek, I feel like it's such a good character until I make a mistake, then it's gay.
I'd definitely use this character a lot more if I could use the DACUS.
Yes, this. Playing smaller chars can be so annoying sometimes. But the thing is changin to zelda helps kill them so much earlier, especially with having dtilt and SHAD'ing for a crossover.If only her bair was a better aerial zoner against shorter characters -..-
Tournament representation maybe.Considering all these reasonably good high tier match-ups, what are some of the reasons you guys think Sheik is viewed so poorly for?
Sheik indeed has good matchups against some high tiers. I heard she gets destroyed by Ice Climbers though, and doesn't counter important characters besides Fox.Also, what do you all think about these MUs?
She probably could. If she was ever going to have that big of a lead. Which she isn't (let's be honest, if you have that big of a lead on Snake as Sheik, you probably could have already won this match). Also, jumping around feels pretty great until there are explosives on most of the platforms, and Snake is mortar sliding under you every time you try to land. Gets a little hard to keep avoiding that after a while. I've tried this before with some of the faster characters and it's not as easy as it sounds on paper to avoid damage from Snake, since even though he doesn't move as quickly, all of his projectiles are all over the **** place like trash.You don't think Sheik can avoid a kill move from Snake on Battlefield with a stock lead and high percent?