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BBR Game: Final Fantasy 6 Mafia

Omni

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While I appreciate the attempt to get something going, I'm not about to just be random for no reason. It's day 1. If you know a way for me to be helpful at the moment then please enlighten me. I will certainly pounce on anything I see suspicious but right now nothing strikes me as bad.

By the way I don't think Chibo has a posting restriction, unless it's some odd thing where he has to post "kupo" occasionally. He certainly doesn't have to do it in every post.
If everyone were to sit back and wait for something to happen, nothing would happen.

How many times have you played mafia, Scamp? It's Day 1. Go scumhunt. Help scumhunt. Hell, do anything and you'll be more useful than you have been this entire game. Having you "pounce" on other people's actions removes your own actions from play giving the notion you are cleared when you can be just as mafia as anyone else.

Pretty sure Chibo has a posting restriction to say "Kupo" but let's just leave that alone.

Scamp, figure out a way to contribute or die. You should know better.
 

Scamp

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There isn't only one right way to play this game. All I can do right now is try to get people to talk, and you're already doing that in spades. You want me to repeat what you've been saying? Be serious.

I also don't really see how "pouncing" removes my own actions from play.

Anyway, don't worry, I will find a way to contribute. But it's not going to be the same thing you're already doing.
 

Omni

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Well then how about commenting on ideas that have been mentioned or points that have been made?

A lot has been said up to this point. The fact that you have nothing to say about these past 3 pages makes me think that you're not reading or you refuse to commit to some kind of real input.

Saying that "you will contribute" only to go back to observing won't cut it. Again, if everyone else did the same there would be no action. What do you think about the game so far and what, if anything, do you want to comment and/or add on?
 

swordgard

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Kupo for Kupo Puffs?! He must be town aligned!
****it, now the mafia knows! Omg.


People knowing your town aligned doesn't change that much tbh. Its more like trying to prove that you are.

I vote bardull btw now.

Vote: Bardull
 

swordgard

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EBWOP(edit by way of post): Unvote: Dastrn
Vote: Bardull

I forgot to vote and provide reasonning. That MK hat scares me :S.
 

BarDulL

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****it, now the mafia knows! Omg.


People knowing your town aligned doesn't change that much tbh. Its more like trying to prove that you are.

I vote bardull btw now.

Vote: Bardull
You have to say Unvote before voting again...or is that some kind of character restriction of yours? :psycho:

In any case, if we could effectively rely on the flavor to deduce that the character Mog is town aligned, that would be great for Town, I would think. That's one less suspect on the list for Town, right?
 

Omni

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^Yeah, but let's not rely on flavor. Given I don't think Overswarm is trying to trick us with Chibo's post restriction, clearing him on the basis that we think he could be a Moogle doesn't confirm him being town-aligned. Take it as it is and continue to hunt for scum.

@Sword: Are you sure you're not lying about being experienced Swordgard? Bold your votes and make sure you bold your unvotes as well.

We have until next Monday. Can you people start a bandwagon with me so we can start pressuring some scum? Everyone's hogging their votes like Halloween candy.
 

Marc

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Clearing Chibo based on just his post restriction is premature, although a post restriction is rare for Mafia. I support Omni's movement for more activity, although I don't have a clear lynch candidate yet. Scamp is being difficult, but that's the way he always is. He's deserving of pressure, but I'm not so sure he's the play toDay.

I like to see more out of people like Hilt, I know he can do better than this.
 

Scamp

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Well then how about commenting on ideas that have been mentioned or points that have been made?

A lot has been said up to this point. The fact that you have nothing to say about these past 3 pages makes me think that you're not reading or you refuse to commit to some kind of real input.

Saying that "you will contribute" only to go back to observing won't cut it. Again, if everyone else did the same there would be no action. What do you think about the game so far and what, if anything, do you want to comment and/or add on?

You want comments right now? Fine.

Both you and Bardull were idiots and the whole conversation between you two provided no good information. That actually makes me suspicious of Adumbrodeus because he mentioned all the great information that the conversation between you two provided. I'd like him to explain that if he ever posts again.

And just to be clear I don't actually mean that either of you are idiots. Just that I feel that the exchange was idiotic. Don't want to start a flame war.


Also swordgard is scum.

vote: swordgard


Finally, the least helpful person that's posted more than once or twice? Clearly Edrees.

FOS: Edrees

And there you go.
 

BarDulL

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Yeah, I figured as much.

...I wouldn't be surprised if Chibo actually turned out to be a human, to be honest.

...

It sounds like something OS would do, anyway. *facepalm*
 

BarDulL

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Also, I'm curious how everyone feels about the Swordgard bandwagon. He seems a little...suspicious, especially with that OMGUS vote a little while back on .joel. Thoughts?
 

BarDulL

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Hmm...for some reason I thought there was a bandwagon on Sword. Well, let me rephrase my question then: how does everyone feel about a bandwagon on Sword?
 

Omni

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Unvote
Vote: Swordgard

I feel the same with adumbrodeous as well, Scamp. Ditto on Edreess. See? Now we can hold hands for a while.
 

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Care to break down your reasoning for us?
Nope. Makes his next post that much more interesting. Besides, you've started to figure it out a little on your own, anyway.


If anyone needs me for something, I'll be holding hands.
 

BarDulL

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I'm going to pass on ring around the rosie until I hear what he has to say.

For now, Unvote, FoS: Swordgard
 

adumbrodeus

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That was more a numbers thing as opposed to a specific piece of information, their exchange was long enough that with somethinjg else I think it will give enough info to make concrete analysis on one or two of them in the future. Also, suspicious of me for what? But if the information isn't relevant that doesn't tend towards a specific side.




Also guys, keep in mind, just because somebody's a moogle doesn't mean they're good, we don't know which chars are town aligned, also he could be faking it.

Yellow = edited in.
 

swordgard

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Finger of suspicion.

To all the people hopping on the lynch swordgard bandwagon because I voted for a couple of neutral people, I suggest you reread my posts and try to understand better why I voted everyone I did so far. It should be fairly obvious(and no I ain't mafia D : ). I hope this makes it even easier to understand.

Unvote
Vote: Chibosempai
 

Overswarm

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As stated earlier in the rules and mentioned by other players:

There is NO editing allowed of ANY KIND. The next person to edit their post will be modkilled instantly.


Do not edit your posts. It is against the rules. Just double post if you have something to add.
 

Crow!

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Moogles aren't humans. In fact, they have demonic looking bat wings. And they don't live in the same towns the people do.

Just throwing that out there.
 

Overswarm

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Moogles aren't humans. In fact, they have demonic looking bat wings. And they don't live in the same towns the people do.

Just throwing that out there.
Don't post if you aren't playing in the game =P

BBR has much to learn about Mafia!
 

Omni

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If you rely on flavor, you might get burned. Try to focus on information and player actions if you want to succeed. Trust no one and make no assumptions.
From the introduction post.

Kinda makes me want to lynch Chibo out of principle. =P
 

Omni

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To all the people hopping on the lynch swordgard bandwagon because I voted for a couple of neutral people, I suggest you reread my posts and try to understand better why I voted everyone I did so far. It should be fairly obvious(and no I ain't mafia D : ). I hope this makes it even easier to understand.
unvote

oic

@Adumbrodeus: How do you feel about my idea of lynching Chibo?
 

CT Chia

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Doesn't seem like you've got much of an idea at all there, it seems more like you were just joking.
Since when did posting restriction = get lynched?
kupo!
 

Omni

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Quiet scum.

Edrees, you can answer the above question, too.
 

Omni

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Relax, Chibo. Why are you so uptight? I asked two people a single question for a specific reason. I'm obviously more interested in them than you.

If I have nothing on you than you have nothing to worry about, right?
 

adumbrodeus

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@ Everyone, I just confirmed with OS, Mafia already knows other Mafia


Overswarm:


Sorry, I actually remembered the "no edits" rule... right after I edited, was actually gonna ask if the "double-post" restriction could be lifted for this thread, but since you already said it... I assume the mods have no issue with this?







Omni you're acting out of line with 0 basis on why I should be lynched.
kupo!
Honestly, random lynching is common, you get better odds with random lynching then letting the Mafia just kill, so it's to the town's advantage to lynch always or just skip the first day (depending on how many Mafia there are).

@Adumbrodeus: How do you feel about my idea of lynching Chibo?
I think Chibo's seeming roll makes him less likely to be Mafia then other potentials and he hasn't done anything suspicious really. I'd pick somebody else.

You want comments right now? Fine.

Both you and Bardull were idiots and the whole conversation between you two provided no good information. That actually makes me suspicious of Adumbrodeus because he mentioned all the great information that the conversation between you two provided. I'd like him to explain that if he ever posts again.
I believe I explained before, they may not have said anything outwardly suspicious, but they gave a context for their future actions.


Basically, I THINK you're painting it in too broad strokes, you gotta think about actions in terms of their potential benefit for one side or the other, assuming Omni was an innocent, who could benefit? How about Mafia, who could benefit?


Furthermore, any substantial paper trail WILL yield information that can be analyzed in conjunction with later intell, which was more what I was referencing to as opposed to actually getting a concrete answer about anything.
 

EdreesesPieces

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You want comments right now? Fine.

Finally, the least helpful person that's posted more than once or twice? Clearly Edrees.

FOS: Edrees

And there you go.
Can you explain why I'm suspicious because I post a lot without being "helpful?" It's not like you were very heplful up until Omni called you out on it. But because I posted more I'm suspicious? I do not understand the reasoning, care to explain? I have taken an opinion on a lot of stuff - the Bardull vs Omni scuffle, and Omni's intention to do a bandwagon vote for you, and I explained myself that I just want more information before I do anything. When I play mafia IRL it's in your best interest to feel everyone out before you make any sudden decisions. I'm just posting a lot to see how everyone reacts to what I'm saying to gauge it. Everyone was being ALL quiet, I felt like I had to do something.

unvote

oic

@Adumbrodeus: How do you feel about my idea of lynching Chibo?
Honestly, a lot better than you wanting to lynch Scamp just because he wasn't participating. But I understand there being a base for wanting to lunch Chibo- I also disagree with the theory that Moogles are automatically town aligned, but it's clear to me that he's a moogle. Moogles might be independent (are there independent parties?)

Personally, I think I'm suspicious of anyone that is so willing to vote people out so fast. Yeah, it's true that the town should lynch someone before the Mafia starts killing the town off, but we have til Monday, for crying out loud, and you want to just start bandwagons on randomly lynching people? Isn't that something Mafia would do - have absolutely no problem with anyone being lynched?

I'll continue to reserve my vote until Saturday or Sunday when I have the most information possible.

Personally, I'm going to throw out a suggestion to everyone playing the game - shouldn't anyone wanting to lynch someone have a good reason to do it and have the burden to EXPLAIN why? Seems reasonable to me.

Yellow = material not in original post
 

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I'm pretty sure there are parties that can be in the game but neither for the town nor mafia. They just have their own agenda.
 

BarDulL

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Can you explain why I'm suspicious because I post a lot without being "helpful?" It's not like you were very heplful up until Omni called you out on it. But because I posted more I'm suspicious? I do not understand the reasoning, care to explain? I have taken an opinion on a lot of stuff - the Bardull vs Omni scuffle, and Omni's intention to do a bandwagon vote for you, and I explained myself that I just want more information before I do anything. When I play mafia IRL it's in your best interest to feel everyone out before you make any sudden decisions. I'm just posting a lot to see how everyone reacts to what I'm saying to gauge it. Everyone was being ALL quiet, I felt like I had to do something.



Honestly, a lot better than you wanting to lynch Scamp just because he wasn't participating. But I understand there being a base for wanting to lunch Chibo- I also disagree with the theory that Moogles are automatically town aligned, but it's clear to me that he's a moogle. Moogles might be independent (are there independent parties?)

Personally, I think I'm suspicious of anyone that is so willing to vote people out so fast. Yeah, it's true that the town should lynch someone before the Mafia starts killing the town off, but we have til Monday, for crying out loud, and you want to just start bandwagons on randomly lynching people? Isn't that something Mafia would do - have absolutely no problem with anyone being lynched?

I'll continue to reserve my vote until Saturday or Sunday when I have the most information possible.

Personally, I'm going to throw out a suggestion to everyone playing the game - shouldn't anyone wanting to lynch someone have a good reason to do it and have the burden to EXPLAIN why? Seems reasonable to me.
Oh jeez, another edit. Get your shield ready, Edrees. >_>

Darkmusician, independents haven't been confirmed as of yet, they are only a possibility at this point.

What makes you so sure they exist?
 

Darkmusician

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Yea I'm not sure if there are independents either. I was speaking in terms of it being possible. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 

Omni

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Hm...

Honestly, a lot better than you wanting to lynch Scamp just because he wasn't participating. But I understand there being a base for wanting to lunch Chibo- I also disagree with the theory that Moogles are automatically town aligned, but it's clear to me that he's a moogle. Moogles might be independent (are there independent parties?)
Since you seemed to add that yellow part to your statement do you mind clarifying what that base was? It seems as if you want to discourage the Chibo lynch, but at the same time not completely discredit it. It would look suspicious for a mafia member to fully cover for his partner so a neutral stance on it would be safest.

For all intents and purposes the idea of lynching Chibo based off Overswarm's quote is ********. So I'm extra curious as to why you think there was a base.

Also find it interesting that you threw out the idea that moogles could be independents. Independents need to die just as much as mafia. Any role that is not town aligned is scum.

Personally, I think I'm suspicious of anyone that is so willing to vote people out so fast. Yeah, it's true that the town should lynch someone before the Mafia starts killing the town off, but we have til Monday, for crying out loud, and you want to just start bandwagons on randomly lynching people? Isn't that something Mafia would do - have absolutely no problem with anyone being lynched?
Wrong.

Bandwagons do not necessarily mean lynching a person. Bandwagons are pressure votes buildton a person that usually causes them (and if they're mafia their teammates) to act in a certain way. Bandwagons are excellent tools for breaking down mafia, and unfortunately, breaking down town but the one thing you'll always receive from bandwagons are reactions, responses, and information.

If we wait until deadline to finally decide on a person and that person claims DOC and there's no CC's (counter claims) then obviously we have to move elsewhere. However, because we waited until the last day to bandwagon pressure to the point of them name/role claiming we run out of time to add pressure to the next most suspicious person. This is the scenario that occurs when people wait last minute to cast their votes and do not bandwagon pressure early on in the Day.

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So I'm getting annoyed but you people need to join a bandwagon with me and stop being so reserved. If no one votes no one feels pressured and no information gets distributed. Just, "Hey, why are you voting me?" 's every other post.

unvote (if i have a vote one someone just in case)

gonna do a small review then decide on my top 2 candidates based on weakest link/scummy/useless credentials
 
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