Aura Malarkey in 3D .:. Lsgd

[phi1ny3]

Z went both pika and fox on Trela and I feel bad since I played Z's pika in friendlies and he got training from stauffy for the MU. Also he got Fox training from TKD I think.

Did he beat him with Pika, or fox?

Also, Trela has some Pika exp too, so the former would be surprising tbh

 

[AlexoftheAura]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7auQNexGEMk&feature=player_embedded

:>

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Trela is doing a lot of what I've talked about in that video... Shield DI to FAir punish FTilt, Rolling behind FTilt for frame shinanegans, and more...

Edit: Steam, do you think Snake v. Lucario is still -2?

 

[RT]

Uh ...

 

[hichez50]

Myth when have you said any of that myth

 

[Zucco]

dat blurrr

 

[Tony T]

Did he beat him with Pika, or fox?

Also, Trela has some Pika exp too, so the former would be surprising tbh

He beat trela with both of them.

Game 1 Fox
Game 2 Pika

 

[phi1ny3]

Oh,

that's too bad

I really wanted to see Japanese MKs v. Lucario, and see how well they would catch on.

 

[D. Disciple]

ASC > Falco's phantasm

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Take a picture of yourself.

Find Flamey.

Have him Photoshop you in the picture.

???

Profit.

(Hasn't he done something like this before anyway?)

I think I'll take up this offer if he does, lol.

~

I drowned in R1 pools at APEX, :<.

Only thing I did was take a game off Coney, otherwise nothing special.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Cause lucario is free.

 

[AlexoftheAura]

In that pool he was the freest of frees

 

[D. Disciple]

Serious question, why am I over pitbull for top 5 Lucario, that man has been putting in work.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/12/12/circle-pad-pro-unboxing

When I was looking at this I was like... "Hey we can probably SDI on the 3DS in the next Smash now!"

Now if only if the Wii U had controller ports...

 

[Mr. game and watch]

I think that's an old video. Like, I saw the pro at GameStop last week.

 

[phi1ny3]

Serious question, why am I over pitbull for top 5 Lucario, that man has been putting in work.

On that list? It never seems to get updated, I and several WC players have said he should be higher (especially after beating Havoc)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yeah Pitbull is putting in serious work, he defiantly is top 5 over DD, no offense DD.

 

[D. Disciple]

None taken, I havent done **** yet tbh.

 

[Raziek]

Hey Lucarios. I'm seriously considering picking him up as a secondary and I'm wondering where I can find the most current information on his playstyle, etc. I already pored over the frame data and such, but I'm looking for general tips and advice, I suppose.

Hey Red Ruy!

 

[phi1ny3]

Watching Trela/Junebug is probably your best bet. Old zucco vids aren't too bad either, although you'll want to watch the first.

The guide Steam's working on isn't too shabby actually, you might want to check there. The cool thing about the char is that he's been shown to be fairly successful with different approaches to his gameplay, so you can more or less be flexible in how you play, as long as you switch it up for certain MUs lol.

 

[Raziek]

What matchups might those be?

 

[Steam]

well it depends on the matchup really. and even then there are many ways to tackle some. but certain ones have to be played in a certain way... like fox for example. you can't just passive aggressively zone him because of his speed. he's a character that forces lucario to commit to approaches

or like how against kirby or pikachu lucario needs to just retreat and outspace and camp and stay at mid range. and against marth for example mid range is where he really doesn't want to be.

basically lucario is a jack of all trades... so to be as successful as possible you need to be able to use him in a number of different ways. his versatility is pretty much all that keeps him from being middle of mid tier.

my explanations suck.

edit: though I will say that pretty much all of his matchups against high tiers force him to play in a different way... because high tiers just tend to control game flow like that :/

 

[phi1ny3]

Wario and Sonic for example, you have to wall out w/ your aerials a lot, even to the point of it being counter-intuitive at times, because it's much harder for them to get inside or to punish your whiffs if done properly. Marth, you want to stay planted on the ground at almost all times. Ground games like D3/Snake you have to do a lot of cross up work and make them guess where you're going to be, and using frame 1 FP is really good on them for this reason, since their biggest option is shield naturally.

v. Fox, I actually have to say Steam that a good tactic to mix in is a lot of full hop or really long distance baiting with laggy looking moves. Foxes are usually used to getting to punish everything, you can often make them commit to predictable/laggy stuff (most ones that don't use fox consistently anyways, good dedicated fox mains sometimes know better and will do more creative punishes like nair or whatnot). If you can do that with your close cross up game, you can keep him really guessing on what's punishable and what isn't (although he's going to stuff you a lot up close too).

 

[Raziek]

Well, I won't have to worry about it too much, since I'm mainly picking Lucario up as a playstyle supplement. He doesn't really cover any matchups Marth can't already cover, so he's kinda here as my "This isn't working" backup, since I can play a completely different style, namely more defensive.

 

[Steam]

Well, I won't have to worry about it too much, since I'm mainly picking Lucario up as a playstyle supplement. He doesn't really cover any matchups Marth can't already cover, so he's kinda here as my "This isn't working" backup, since I can play a completely different style, namely more defensive.

yeah it's pretty rare to see anyone second lucario... he takes a lot of work and doesn't cover any worthwhile matchups other than maybe pikachu. He's a solid main though.

 

[RT]

Eh, you can always try him in teams...he can be pretty godly.

 

[Geoberos]

Nike's Birthday Stream -- Shots Money Match
(Loser takes two shots)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/geoberos
Currently LoKo vs Espy
(2-1 Espy, best of 5)
Edit: Espy won. LoKo taking his shots.

 

[hichez50]

my explanations suck.

edit: though I will say that pretty much all of his matchups against high tiers force him to play in a different way... because high tiers just tend to control game flow like that :/

They represent lucario's match-up's well. I would personally like a olimar sentence or two.

I actually thing we should summarize every match-up into a paragraph a less. I think It will be helpful for use and to newcomers to the game. A lot of our match-up threads are out of date and a single( or two) respected member(s) of the Lucario boards can throw them them up. It it can be quite intimidating and misleading going though old threads. Plus I am starting to hear a lot of the same things about match-up said over and over again.

 

[Steam]

I just got a crazy idea...

on lylat could we footstool someone in the air close to the ground, platform cancel drop through and then jab reset them with a sourspot nair > ****? it would be sexy if it we could.

 

[D. Disciple]

Gonna try right now

 

[~automatic]

I'm winning Winter Game Fest this weekend with that.

 

[D. Disciple]

2 days have passed and no posting? Disgust

 

[Mr. game and watch]

You guys are usually mad active

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Disciple, your concepts of time continue to confuse me!

 

[D. Disciple]

Then my job is done

 

[hichez50]

Well what do you guys want to talk about?

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Puppies and kittens!

 

[RT]

I hate em.

 

[AlexoftheAura]

What is wrong with you RT? D:

 

[RT]

Boredom .