At Smash's Gate - The Doom Marine/Doomguy/Doom Slayer Thread

[CharacterCrisisKing]

No, I don't mean to put it down! Perfectly valid. Just needed fine-tuning!

 

[GolisoPower]

No, I don't mean to put it down! Perfectly valid. Just needed fine-tuning!

Perhaps maybe puppet fighters from Galeem and Dharkon, for example?

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yeah, I think I'll just take a break from this thread, the convo stopped making sense hours ago.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

How about this?

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[CharacterCrisisKing]

I love how the gif in your signature is like
"nnnnnnnnnnnnnEUAOAH"

 

[Darkmoone1]

I was thinking about what would Doomguy's victory animations would be and I thought of a cool idea for one of them.

What if one of them was a recreation of the original Doom boxart, but Doomguy is standing on top of a defeated Galeem and fighting off Dharkon. I think it would be pretty hardcore if they do that.

Of course, his victory theme would be Intermission from Doom and it would loop like Cloud's and Joker's.

It could be this. It's also possible they can use the 2016 version for stage completion (31 seconds in):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ4fJBFM4FY

 

[Holphino]

Man, November is taking awhile to get here. I need to know who's #5, after all those insane leaks these last few weeks i'm going crazy! Still holding out hope for our boy.

 

[ActualGarbage]

Man, November is taking awhile to get here. I need to know who's #5, after all those insane leaks these last few weeks i'm going crazy! Still holding out hope for our boy.

I mean if it makes you feel any better, November's only a week away.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

The new ice bomb will let you freeze demons in place in DOOM Eternal. pic.twitter.com/bG9dB9qsL7

— DOOM (@DOOM) October 24, 2019

Japanese detractor: Green Samus can freeze now!

That's actually nice though that Doomslayer kinda took a page from Samus' book there, and I definitely wouldn't complain if that ice bomb were part of his Smash moveset, since we know Samus will never get her ice beam or ice missiles when she has to stick with her Smash 64 kit.

 

[3DSNinja]

I find that Samus doesn't use any of her beams exceedingly dumb.
Same with the speed booster and really, anything from most of her appearances.
I just think that we need a better representation of Samus from Metroid, who has tons of different beams that you can swap out depending on the situation. That sounds awesome. Alas, twas not to be.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I find that Samus doesn't use any of her beams exceedingly dumb.
Same with the speed booster and really, anything from most of her appearances.
I just think that we need a better representation of Samus from Metroid, who has tons of different beams that you can swap out depending on the situation. That sounds awesome. Alas, twas not to be.

The core Smash fanbase cries foul if their precious movesets (at least for people that aren't clones) get any drastic changes, for competition's sake.

Heck, it's a wonder somehow managed to get anything new by Brawl.

 

[3DSNinja]

yeah, it is still dumb tho.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

The core Smash fanbase cries foul if their precious movesets (at least for people that aren't clones) get any drastic changes, for competition's sake.

Heck, it's a wonder somehow managed to get anything new by Brawl.

Ganondorf is the most divisive character or whether or not he should be seen as needing to have more changes, before or after Ultimate. Change my mind.

I like him in Smash more now than I ever did before tbh, despite being a secondary next to Ridley now instead of a main, but having the most sourspot moves out of all of the heavies doesn't help, though I guess there's only so much you can do to improve him without making him broken with how he can kill stupid early otherwise.

I guess to make it more on topic, how early should Doomguy be able to kill compared to Ganondorf or someone? I can see him being a heavy but not like a super heavy.

 

[GolisoPower]

Ganondorf is the most divisive character or whether or not he should be seen as needing to have more changes, before or after Ultimate. Change my mind.

I like him in Smash more now than I ever did before tbh, despite being a secondary next to Ridley now instead of a main, but having the most sourspot moves out of all of the heavies doesn't help, though I guess there's only so much you can do to improve him without making him broken with how he can kill stupid early otherwise.

I guess to make it more on topic, how early should Doomguy be able to kill compared to Ganondorf or someone? I can see him being a heavy but not like a super heavy.

I’d say super early as to go with the “keep moving or die” sort of gameplay that Doom usually has. Like somewhere along the lines of Jigglypuff or Pichu.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Yeah, a glass cannon seems like the most logical course of action. Especially since Doom punishes anyone with poor sense of perspective.

I mean if it makes you feel any better, November's only a week away.

And I got a certain kart game to keep me busy in the meantime. Still no Switch, but I'm coping.

 

[PublicServant]

I’d say super early as to go with the “keep moving or die” sort of gameplay that Doom usually has. Like somewhere along the lines of Jigglypuff or Pichu.

I think of him being a late killer (think 150-200%) but its compensated by him having a massive damage output.
It'd tie in well when incorporated with Glory Kills, where grabbing enemies after softening them to around the above range incurs an on-the-spot KO with a unique animation.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I don’t often post in character support threads but I just popped in here to say I still want to see Doomslayer in Smash. As much as I want to see Dragonborn or Vault-Boy, Doomslayer makes more sense. Everything from his moveset, possible retro Alt, spirits, crazy ass stage, jaw dropping trailer, and obviously the music.

I probably would of scoffed at the idea a year or so ago but I’m really amped to hopefully see him included.

I had a Youtube project of including music I want to see in Smash and I made a leak version back during Erdrick/Steve/Ryu/Doomslayer was a thing. Feel free to scroll down to the Doomslayer section and let me know if you approve of the tracks I selected.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgu3SkCTCd6VNfbIJSX_nh0mP2vOphWrs

 

[TindalosKeeper]

The new ice bomb will let you freeze demons in place in DOOM Eternal. pic.twitter.com/bG9dB9qsL7

— DOOM (@DOOM) October 24, 2019

Japanese detractor: Green Samus can freeze now!

That's actually nice though that Doomslayer kinda took a page from Samus' book there, and I definitely wouldn't complain if that ice bomb were part of his Smash moveset, since we know Samus will never get her ice beam or ice missiles when she has to stick with her Smash 64 kit.

Eh... To my knowledge, Samus uses an Ice Beam.
Unless there's an instance where her bombs can be upgraded to freeze too?
No comparison if that's the case.

 

[3DSNinja]

She also has Ice Missiles

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Yes, I said that, and I was likening the ice bombs more to the ice missiles, since I assume the former will also come in limited supply, to not make the game too easy.

 

[PublicServant]

Yes, I said that, and I was likening the ice bombs more to the ice missiles, since I assume the former will also come in limited supply, to not make the game too easy.

Given how the grenades in 2016 worked via recharge as opposed to supply, the Cryo bombs will probably either have a longer cooldown period or share their cooldown with other equipment cannon functions like the frag grenades and flamethrower. My money's on it being the latter, given how it would likely encourage players to choose wisely with what they use in any given encounter.

 

[Ridley_Prime]

Given how the grenades in 2016 worked via recharge as opposed to supply, the Cryo bombs will probably either have a longer cooldown period or share their cooldown with other equipment cannon functions like the frag grenades and flamethrower. My money's on it being the latter, given how it would likely encourage players to choose wisely with what they use in any given encounter.

Oh yeah, that's true. Speaking of grenades in Doom 2016, the siphon grenade was by far my favorite to use for the multiplayer in most cases, and I think probably single player too; the red one that leeches some health and armor off the enemy target. I don't want to picture how the cryo bombs would be in multiplayer though, with how annoying the freeze tag was in Doom '16. lol

 

[Plank08]

I think doomslayer would be awesome in smash, so he has my support

 

[CharacterCrisisKing]

The new ice bomb will let you freeze demons in place in DOOM Eternal. pic.twitter.com/bG9dB9qsL7

— DOOM (@DOOM) October 24, 2019

Japanese detractor: Green Samus can freeze now!

That's actually nice though that Doomslayer kinda took a page from Samus' book there, and I definitely wouldn't complain if that ice bomb were part of his Smash moveset, since we know Samus will never get her ice beam or ice missiles when she has to stick with her Smash 64 kit.

Eternal's getting cooler and cooler... Be nice to have that in the battle I'm stuck in rn

 

[YsDisciple]

Broke: DOOM Eternal was delayed due to ensure "the best experience" possible.
Woke: DOOM Eternal was delayed due to ensure "the best experience" possible... and because Sakurai asked for part of the DOOM team to input some work on DOOM Slayer's character, stage, music, and spirits for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

 

[Spongeboob]

Add me as a supporter. Doomguy would be a great addition to the roster.

 

[TindalosKeeper]

So, someone figured out how to look for Japanese opinions on Doom for Smash.

I missed the tweet where it is said, but the guy said to input: 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ DOOM

If you want to do your own research, you can do so. I found Japanese people speculating Doom is either next, or a good pick. That's awesome!

Edit: Actually found it super easy, lol.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

 

[Evil Trapezium]

Broke: DOOM Eternal was delayed due to ensure "the best experience" possible.
Woke: DOOM Eternal was delayed due to ensure "the best experience" possible... and because Sakurai asked for part of the DOOM team to input some work on DOOM Slayer's character, stage, music, and spirits for Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.

Oh my goodness! Don't you hype me up like this because it actually sounds like a possible outcome.

 

[UberPyro64]

So, someone figured out how to look for Japanese opinions on Doom for Smash.

I missed the tweet where it is said, but the guy said to input: 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ DOOM

If you want to do your own research, you can do so. I found Japanese people speculating Doom is either next, or a good pick. That's awesome!

Edit: Actually found it super easy, lol.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

When I searched, I only got his Tweet and nothing else.

EDIT: Nevermind, what you put in worked, but what he did didn't.

 

[TindalosKeeper]

When I searched, I only got his Tweet and nothing else.

EDIT: Nevermind, what you put in worked, but what he did didn't.

Make sure you search on Twitter, not Google, lol.

 

[CharacterCrisisKing]

doom fun game

 

[Megadoomer]

doom

You might want to add more detail to that post; having a post that is less than ten characters or makes no sense is considered spam.

 

[CharacterCrisisKing]

am I good now

 

[YsDisciple]

It just dawned upon me that... Kirby copying DOOM Slayer's look (most likely the helmet) would be badass and meme worthy (like gun apprentice Isabelle and gun instructor DOOM Slayer kinda memes). Also, I'm still feeling strongly that DOOM Slayer might be DLC Fighter #5. *metal intensifies*

 

[PublicServant]

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This should be good.

 

[valkiriforce]

I've likely posted it before but I wonder how many of the Japanese fans are aware of Japanese Community Project for Doom II.

 

[CharacterCrisisKing]

I have nothing to add to this thread but I want it to have my support and I'm having fun here so I don't want to leave

 

[tactical_meme]

Been lurking on this thread for a little while, finally got around to making an account just to support this and maybe join in on the discussion. Can I be added to the list of supporters?

 

[Geno Boost]

This is my first time coming to this thread
2 weeks ago was my first time playing a Doom game
which one?
The first one
BUT
its actually a full port to VRChat and its free and multiplayer online and i played it with my VR with my japanese VR friends
ITS GOOD
So I now support Doomguy!

 

[zodipunc]

I created an account just to subscribe to this thread, lol. The original Doom is one of my all-time favorite games and there hasn't been a character I've been more excited for to be in this game than Doomguy. He has my full support.