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At Smash's Gate - The Doom Marine/Doomguy/Doom Slayer Thread

ColtonS25

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Hey there peeps, what's up? So I haven't actually played any of the DOOM games (I do have plans to, I just haven't yet!), but I'd say that I support Doomguy for Smash. It's a very iconic series that has a history with Nintendo and (I think, correct me if I'm wrong) was pretty genre defining for FPS games. I understand that there's a pretty solid group who supports Doomguy, so why not? Plus one of my friends is a huge DOOM fan as well. Honestly I support pretty much any character that would make people happy, but Doomguy seems like a really interesting choice for Smash that would differ pretty heavily from everything in the game now.

Here's hoping for a debut in Smash sometime soon! :)
 

TindalosKeeper

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So, let's add something up here. First of all, thank you to the 3 guys that are supporting Doomguy! Their support is always welcome!

Secondly, since we are almost at November's Eve, we should be expecting an announcement from Nintendo on the next Direct today, if the Direct happens to be the 1st.

If not, my next guess would be at mid-November (8-15).

At last we shall know the next fighter (or fighters, if they decide to open up the standalone DLC's after the Fighter Pass concludes... Remember, there was only 1 reveal... I wouldn't be surprised if there are 2 more this Direct).

If Doomguy is not revealed, then we shall play the waiting game! After all, we have became very good at waiting, huh?
 

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Solid chance that Doom Slayer gets announced within the next 48 hours.
 

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Getting close now, isn't it? Way I see it, the worst case scenario is that we get a Mii costume(although if it came with At Doom's Gate, I Sawed the Demons and Running From Evil as tracks, that'd cushion that blow, just a tiny bit), and would essential be the end of our hopes without getting much of value back. If it's not Doomguy, we still have the remaining character slots, and perhaps with Eternal delayed to next year, there's still a decent shot at one of those working out in our favor.

In any case, very much looking forward to Terry Bogard and while I'm trying to squelch my hopes...I'm not entirely succeeding at that task.
 

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Getting close now, isn't it? Way I see it, the worst case scenario is that we get a Mii costume(although if it came with At Doom's Gate, I Sawed the Demons and Running From Evil as tracks, that'd cushion that blow, just a tiny bit), and would essential be the end of our hopes without getting much of value back. If it's not Doomguy, we still have the remaining character slots, and perhaps with Eternal delayed to next year, there's still a decent shot at one of those working out in our favor.
That's definitely something I've worried about. The Sans costume is such an unexpected move that it makes me wonder what exactly Sakurai's qualifications were for such choices. Was it a moveset thing? Did he not want something so new to be playable, or because it's indie? I feel Doom is much safer as a legacy franchise, but anything can happen.
 

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Wasn't Sans' case that Toby Fox had a great time with Sakurai and got to add him because he beat Sakurai in Smash?
He isn't the main character of his game and i'm surprised nobody thought about other Undertale characters ever making other cameos, which makes me wonder if it's Sans memes affecting the game's popularity or something.
Undertale's representation feels weird because it really feels like it has more to do with Sans memes, so i wonder how some fans even feel about this.
It just feels specific in some way because of said memes and i wonder if anyone complained about Frisk or Toriel not being there.

Then again, Doom is kind of affected by fan memes as well, with the jokes about his power level and the "rip and tear" phrase from the comic.

In other news, i'm surprised nobody posted the pre order trailers that stated the Cyberdemon/Tyrant is confirmed to be an enemy type, because honestly, if something makes an evil faction in videogames even better is when bosses become enemy types.
The ice grenade is cool because it reminds me of Duke Nukem 3D's freeze ray and Hexen's frost shards, so Doom gameplay mods have an excuse to use that one ice shatter effect (I also say this becaue Doom Eternal could work as a tribute to FPS).

The reactions from Japanese gamers about Doom are funny with the best one being the Pacific Rim one because Hugo Martin worked on that movie, some even say a design from Pacific Rim inspired the 2016 Cyberdemon (Along with the implication that OverWatch would either get in Smash or even have a lasting pop culture spot).

Probably late on that Nobody Told Me About Id remix but that's another cool thing about Doom fans, where some stuff feels like solutions for questions or suggestions (And James Paddock is a well known Doom related content creator, he even has his works used in Sigil and he's most famous for The Adventures of Square).

I guess i missed the Harada part too but i got nothing to say that probably hasn't already been said.
Someone posted a tweet about Kid Icarus' underworld and it being compared to Hell in Doom, even though (At least to me) the definitive Doom Hell is the classic one because it's pretty much meant to be multiple things at once, so use that as a base then add props from later games like D64 gargoyle statues and all.

In fact, reboot Doom's lore is weird because (Besides the franchise never being about lore) they want you to see Doomguy as having an extremely high power level, then Hell is somehow more "scientific"/less abstract, that UAC was capable of studying most of these creatures and even creating enemy types.
Old Hell in previous games just made them on their own (Some stated to be using stolen UAC tech) and looked like a nightmarish realm and not just a weird wasteland.
 
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One of the first FPS games I played is Doom and it has left quite an impression on me to this very day. Count me in on the support for Doom Slayer. Imagine playing as him and getting to change which weapons he can use, it would literally be a blast. He has a history with Nintendo and the recent game for Doom and the upcoming one has certainly boosted up his status. With the percentages being high and a lot of things working in Doom Slayer’s favor, I really believe that this next direct will announce him as the next playable character in Smash!
 
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Hey guys! I apologise for going off topic for this comment but I don't know any other way to get the attention I need for this obscure character! I was wondering if when Doom Guy gets into Super Smash Bros Ultimate and you all still want to support a character!

Would you like to support my dude Sergeant Cortez for the post fighters pass DLC? It would mean a lot to me to see him get some support and I promise you he would have an amazing moveset to work with! He is a First Person Shooting bro just like Doom Guy so he has that in common!
Link: https://smashboards.com/threads/bec...-today-sergeant-cortez-support-thread.491872/

Thank you very much! Right now, my vote for Fighter Pass 5 is Doom Guy!
 

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really, advertising dude? sorry, but please don't do that. it looks kinda wrong and self-serving.
 

TindalosKeeper

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Ok, let's see... Why a Cacodemon helmet instead of Doomguy's helmet?

If the leak happens to be real, it doesn't mean Doomguy is out. As long as I see Doomguy's helmet or his suit (Is the suit new? Or is part of something else? I don't recall...) or something similar, then I'd say "Well, boys... Time to pack up".

So I say we are still alive and kicking.

Unless they just added only that Cacodemon cosmethic and there's nothing going for Doomguy :p
 
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Ok, let's see... Why a Cacodemon helmet instead of Doomguy's helmet?

If the leak happens to be real, it doesn't mean Doomguy is out. As long as I see Doomguy's helmet or his suit (Is the suit new? Or is part of something else? I don't recall...) or something similar, then I'd say "Well, boys... Time to pack up".

So I say we are still alive and kicking.
It seems like the leak is indicating that either Geno or Doomguy are possibilities since these are characters from there respective franchises.

I'm literally shaking right now...
 

TindalosKeeper

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Why would anyone think this being real means he's out? If anything it means he's in.
Remember, Frisk/Chara is not a playable character, while Sans ended up as a Mii Costume. Sans is a NPC.
The Cacodemon is technically a NPC too, which you can kill.
Please don't impale me or anything, I'm trying to be realistic, so everyone doesn't get ultra-hyped and end up raging if nothing happens other than the Mii Costume.
 

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I don't mean to celebrate prematurely. Lord knows I did as a Ryu Hayabusa supporter.
But I daresay we did it, guys!
 

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Remember, Frisk/Chara is not a playable character, while Sans ended up as a Mii Costume. Sans is a NPC.
The Cacodemon is technically a NPC too, which you can kill.
Please don't impale me or anything, I'm trying to be realistic, so everyone doesn't get ultra-hyped and end up raging if nothing happens other than the Mii Costume.
Because Sans was one of the most requested characters and is the most popular Undertale character. Look at Ridley and Wolf, the main villains of their respective series are Mother Brain and Andross, but they got in due to popularity. A Cacodemon is a generic enemy that no one requested. Either Doomguy and the Cacodemon are Mii costumes or Doomguy is playable (assuming the leak is real).
 

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If this is fake, it is Artsy Omni Rayman and Grinch Leak levels of effort.
Have we ever had a video leak like this? Actual gameplay?
 

TindalosKeeper

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If this is fake, it is Artsy Omni Rayman and Grinch Leak levels of effort.
Have we ever had a video leak like this? Actual gameplay?
There are two videos in Twitter, let me get them for you... Watch the Edit.

There was a problem fetching the tweet


Because Sans was one of the most requested characters and is the most popular Undertale character. Look at Ridley and Wolf, the main villains of their respective series are Mother Brain and Andross, but they got in due to popularity. A Cacodemon is a generic enemy that no one requested. Either Doomguy and the Cacodemon are Mii costumes or Doomguy is playable (assuming the leak is real).
Good point. I guess I'm just being pessimistic, lol. Just trying to not hype too hard, is all.
 
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I don't believe it just yet. It sounds like somebody just making models and modding them in as swapped out Mii hats is possible. Using Ken like with that pre-release debug leak seems too intentional. The two hats happening to point to two popular requests even more so.
 
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I don't believe it just yet. It sounds like somebody just making models and modding them in as swapped out Mii hats is possible. Using Ken like with that pre-release debug leak seems too intentional. The two hats happening to point to two popular requests even more so.
That's 4D chess logic. The Ken part.
But Mallow's Mii Costume was already leaked in the past. It was listed with Team Rocket and Goiemon (probably misspelled), which weren't exactly easy picks.
 

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I don't believe it just yet. It sounds like somebody just making models and modding them in as swapped out Mii hats is possible. Using Ken like with that pre-release debug leak seems too intentional. The two hats happening to point to two popular requests even more so.
There was a problem fetching the tweet
This isn't 100% confirmation that its currently impossible to mod mii costumes, but I think it has some merit.
 

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Oh my god oh my god oh my god I'm actually shaking WHAT

I wish I could unsee if real but I'm so happy regardless, the meatball boy looks so CUTE

also lmao at Ken
 

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There was a problem fetching the tweet
This isn't 100% confirmation that its currently impossible to mod mii costumes, but I think it has some merit.
If it's really that hard and somebody still went through the effort just to screw with people I wouldn't even be mad.
 

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ALL RIGHT GUYS WE'RE POSSIBLY ALMOST FACING AND REACHING THE SUN RIGHT THERE
or I guess Hell would make more sense lmao
 

Davidius

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To stick to the theme of overt pessimism there still remains the possibility of Skyrim getting a character and Doom just getting costumes.
 
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Look,

I'm not here for support.

I just want to let you all know that while you're all celebrating, there is one woman here tearing and crying because she never got what she wanted. Same with others.

That leak didn't just disappoint her. It broke her heart too.

Please know this.

Thank you.
 

Morgana J. Cat

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I know this looks credible (and really cool too), but just remember one thing, the *gulp*... Grinch Leak...
 

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Holy **** if this is real...my two most wanted are getting in which is crazy. What a way to finish the pass if true.

To stick to the theme of overt pessimism there still remains the possibility of Skyrim getting a character and Doom just getting costumes.
I mean, Hero didn’t get any other Square Enix costumes and Banjo didn’t come with any other Microsoft properties.
 
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Holy **** if this is real...my two most wanted are getting in which is crazy. What a way to finish the pass if true..
Right there with you. B&K, Doomslayer, and Geno were my top three I wanted to see in the game when it was announced and now potentially getting all three. Wow.. lol truly the Ultimate version of SSB.
 

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Keep in mind that while character development takes a long time and Doom Guy and Geno could be coming, Banjo & Kazooie proved that the mii costumes might even be there for Terry's release. Whether you guys choose to hype all out or be responsible is up to you but this could very well be bad for us as well.

But if this is real then LETS GO! DOOM GUY FOR SMASH HERE WE GO!
 
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Keep in mind that while character development takes a long time and Doom Guy and Geno could be coming, Banjo & Kazooie proved that the mii costumes might even be there for Terry's release. Whether you guys choose to hype all out or be responsible is up to you but this could very well be bad for us as well.

But if this is real then LETS GO! DOOM GUY FOR SMASH HERE WE GO!
You're all partying.

I'm here contemplating life.
 
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