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At Smash's Gate - The Doom Marine/Doomguy/Doom Slayer Thread

doomguywhen1993

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Oh yeah, that's Kinsie's gif he made, except for the "demons" text added in.
And even thought this isn't very interesting, Doom's official twitter posted a Thanks Giving illustration.
Something i also was thinking about recently is how Eternal came around a time when a lot of people are just discovering these "biblical accurate" angels with the rings with eyes and all.
Althought, from what i recall, there's a hierarchy of angel types, so both the humans with wings and the weird wings coexist (And some more).
Makes me wonder if Eternal would consider that, to spice up the Maykr theme.

Speaking of interesting stuff to bring up:
https://twitter.com/Batandy_/status/1331594680941891587 Balloons as a platforming feature in Golden Souls 3.
https://twitter.com/Combine_Kegan/status/1331929496539185174 Combined Arms update, showcasing a batton melee weapon.
https://twitter.com/twango5map01/status/1331903632162254848 A screenshot of a map, with a green sky and a dark location.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1331776986411380736 Some funny comic inspired by those 2000's rage comics and later parodies.
https://twitter.com/d00d64/status/1133630901403947008 Doomguy in SRB2Kart.
https://twitter.com/DanielWienerson/status/1330358513307185161 Chex guy in voxels, while slimmed.
https://twitter.com/PoptartNoahh/status/1331374478408953860 HD take on Doom's chaingun for Roblox, of all things.
https://twitter.com/legendbelmondo/status/1331376956655296512 Wolfenstein mod, showing a flamethrower.
https://twitter.com/scwiba/status/1330664066516480004 Doom 64 project, starring the Mother Demon.
https://twitter.com/Aquila_Chrystos/status/1331128059181887488 A nighty mapset being made.
https://twitter.com/twango5map01/status/1331150345557344256 A map that seems to be using dev textures.
https://twitter.com/BoJustBo1/status/1331294269877923845 Gladiator pixel art.
https://twitter.com/ActualArborix/status/1330959517807374336 Chainsaw Man crossover art.
https://twitter.com/SuperUltra64/status/1331757637235597312 Sneak peak for Treasure Tech Land with sunset themed map.
https://twitter.com/InTheKeep/status/1330755254099472385 Aubrey Hodges released a new track.
https://twitter.com/RottKing/status/1330713470728351745 Early shots of a deathmatch map.
http://planetdoom.gamespy.com/staticcc5f.html?page=Features Comics This site has some old Doom comics, even some in the "Doom Toons" category.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040716034658/http://www.ua-corp.com/ and http://web.archive.org/web/20051230053734/http://www.doomrpg.com/n.x/UAC/Home just to remind some people of some old UAC sites during the 2000's (Also, Flash will die soon, just saying).
https://wiki.mfgg.net/index.php?title=Cacodemon_Christmas A Cacodemon christmas event (Found this in a Mario fangame wiki of all places... speaking of which, remember Mushroom Kingdom Fusion or something? I think there were some Doom enemies there).
https://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/tehrealsalt/srb2kart-doomguy-pieces Doomguy assets for SRB2Kart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHUraU4flKU 1 hour long video of that horde mode for Eternal, because it's a very interesting mod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNLbxJGXCk 2016/Eternal guns for GMod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9R7UjDHcSQ This video is old, but i thought it was interesting; It's someone's suggestion for 10 wads for the Unity ports, even though some characteristics may make them more impossible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1cpdtj8qjk A sequel to that "FPS characters suddenly disappearing" video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqoLZKHRxI Just a great Doom wad song.
https://morkorney.tumblr.com/post/635671475943358464 Someone's unique Hayden fanart, from their Tumblr blog.
https://twitter.com/Baron_o_Markers/status/1328025765544423424 Doom Revenant crossover art with Wolfenstein and Killer Instinct.
 
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Doomguy will be epic! Also Doomguy + Geno would prove that leak!

Hope the best for Doomguy + my boy!
Forgive me for prying, but why exactly do you still think Cacomallow has a chance of being real? I can understand making something in advance (lots of games are in development for YEARS), but for a pair of Mii hats? As in, not even full-on costumes? If they were real, I'm sure they would've released them by now, with or without Doomguy/Geno.

I'm not trying to ruin anything for you (I've seen you on the Geno thread: you're definetly one of the more passionate fans), I just want to try and understand why people still think there's a chance, given the circumstances.
 

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Forgive me for prying, but why exactly do you still think Cacomallow has a chance of being real? I can understand making something in advance (lots of games are in development for YEARS), but for a pair of Mii hats? As in, not even full-on costumes? If they were real, I'm sure they would've released them by now, with or without Doomguy/Geno.

I'm not trying to ruin anything for you (I've seen you on the Geno thread: you're definetly one of the more passionate fans), I just want to try and understand why people still think there's a chance, given the circumstances.
With or without Cacomallow, I think Geno chances to be playable are brighter than ever and he will indeed be playable right now in this Smash, after so much evidence and Fan Demand fulfilled.

About Cacomallow, I’m not saying that’s a 100% real, I just mentioned it cause that theory brings together your guy (Doom) + our guy (Geno).

I think chances for Doomguy are very good. But if you ask me and this is just my opinion, chance of Geno are “he is a fighter already”, you will see and I hope most fan demanded wishes gets granted!

There is nothing wrong in having faith!
 

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My big problem with Cacomallow is the inconsistency with it and the previous leak and, for that reason, I don’t think it’s specifically real. Nonetheless I do find it funny that Doom Slayer is considered disconfirmed by the interview from a while back when that business decision would probably lie on Bethesda than Id. Id would come in for development of course so if they’re bantering actually did go farther than the Vault Boy costume and Doom Slayer is, say, Fighter 10. He very possibly could’ve just entered development and cause that interview to be outdated.

I know it’s reaching but I kinda feel like something about the wording of the interview seems weird to me.
 

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My big problem with Cacomallow is the inconsistency with it and the previous leak and, for that reason, I don’t think it’s specifically real. Nonetheless I do find it funny that Doom Slayer is considered disconfirmed by the interview from a while back when that business decision would probably lie on Bethesda than Id. Id would come in for development of course so if they’re bantering actually did go farther than the Vault Boy costume and Doom Slayer is, say, Fighter 10. He very possibly could’ve just entered development and cause that interview to be outdated.

I know it’s reaching but I kinda feel like something about the wording of the interview seems weird to me.
I think the interview as a whole was a devastating blow to Doomguy's chances and speculation around him as a whole. I don't necessarily think it was a straight up deconfirmation though. The ONLY way I'll 100% rule out Doomguy is if he officially gets deconfirmed by Nintendo or Sakurai. Whether that be through an interview, spirit event, or Mii Costume. I don't care as long as it's a solid deconfirm. It's also a shame that you really can't talk about Doomguy POSSIBLY being in Smash anymore without someone bringing up that interview, and basically treating Doomguy like he's not even worth talking about anymore. Now I'll be the first to admit I'm not particularly confident about his chances, or him being a fighter, but that's not going to stop me from thinking about the low percent chance of him actually making it in.
 
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I mean we also had people that jumped to saying the Eternal Switch port was cancelled. Deconfirmation bias, gotta love it.
People in general have no patience these days. They don't wait and see if something does/doesn't happen, and generally just assume things that must be true without any proof until causality slaps them across the face.

On a related note, I find it bleeding weird that the Mario 35 tourney got delayed to early December when there wouldn't be any particular reason to do so (especially for a spirit event about hats, of all things). I guess that we might get to see the full picture of the supposed Cacomallow leak by the time of the VGAs' end, until then this mystery is just going to be a winding maze covered by fog.

 

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I think the interview as a whole was a devastating blow to Doomguy's chances and speculation around him as a whole. I don't necessarily think it was a straight up deconfirmation though. The ONLY way I'll 100% rule out Doomguy is if he officially gets deconfirmed by Nintendo or Sakurai. Whether that be through an interview, spirit event, or Mii Costume. I don't care as long as it's a solid deconfirm. It's also a shame that you really can't talk about Doomguy POSSIBLY being in Smash anymore without someone bringing up that interview, and basically treating Doomguy like he's not even worth talking about anymore. Now I'll be the first to admit I'm not particularly confident about his chances, or him being a fighter, but that's not going to stop me from thinking about the low percent chance of him actually making it in.
Agreed on that front. I'm just getting sick and tired of people bringing up that interview as the ultimate linchpin against such discussions.

Tbh, interviews that "deconfirm" fighters have never stopped speculation (especially given the precedent for interviewees to outright lie when asked certain questions), and the Hugo interview being magically different because "He goes into way more detail" is just a desperately reaching and boneheaded justification as to why this particular interview is decreed as "100% fact" by the Slayer's detractors.
 

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Say, I just had a thought: remember that idea I had a long while back where Doom Slayer had a unique Glory Kill animation for every Fighter?

Well, after Steve, I'm a little more hopeful that this can happen. I mean, Sakurai was willing to rewrite every single stage in Smash Ultimate to accommodate his mining and crafting gimmick. I feel if he's able to do that, then he can animate unique Glory Kills for all the Fighters. Just sayin'.
 

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Say, I just had a thought: remember that idea I had a long while back where Doom Slayer had a unique Glory Kill animation for every Fighter?

Well, after Steve, I'm a little more hopeful that this can happen. I mean, Sakurai was willing to rewrite every single stage in Smash Ultimate to accommodate his mining and crafting gimmick. I feel if he's able to do that, then he can animate unique Glory Kills for all the Fighters. Just sayin'.
Sounds good on paper, but after the ton of glitches that occurred just from implementing said gimmick, I'm not sure the fanbase would be ready to go through that again.
 

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Sounds good on paper, but after the ton of glitches that occurred just from implementing said gimmick, I'm not sure the fanbase would be ready to go through that again.
I mean, to be entirely fair, I don't know how long Steve's been in development, but the glitches were probably the result of having to work remotely during the quarantine. I mean, we're in like what, Month 8 of COVID? Steve's been planned for 5 years, yeah, but the quarantine period probably was a big factor in terms of actually developing the character.
 

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I think the interview as a whole was a devastating blow to Doomguy's chances and speculation around him as a whole. I don't necessarily think it was a straight up deconfirmation though. The ONLY way I'll 100% rule out Doomguy is if he officially gets deconfirmed by Nintendo or Sakurai. Whether that be through an interview, spirit event, or Mii Costume. I don't care as long as it's a solid deconfirm. It's also a shame that you really can't talk about Doomguy POSSIBLY being in Smash anymore without someone bringing up that interview, and basically treating Doomguy like he's not even worth talking about anymore. Now I'll be the first to admit I'm not particularly confident about his chances, or him being a fighter, but that's not going to stop me from thinking about the low percent chance of him actually making it in.
I agree pretty much will all you said. The interview does not deconfirm 100% (the only true deconfirmation is being a Mii Costume, a spirit this late in the speculation game in an event or by Nintendo/Sakurai themselves. But it does hurt him in some way. It's just up to the time to see if something else pans out or what.

I'd love for a Game Awards reveal considering the many nominations Eternal has and it would be fitting. The series is getting attention, on a recent western event, during a time frame after Steve and how realistically a newcomer could be announced and released at a later time. I am not entirely sure it will happen that way but the possibility is there.

:bowser: .
 

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I'd love for a Game Awards reveal considering the many nominations Eternal has and it would be fitting. The series is getting attention, on a recent western event, during a time frame after Steve and how realistically a newcomer could be announced and released at a later time. I am not entirely sure it will happen that way but the possibility is there.

:bowser: .
Hmm... Doom Guy revealed at TGA 2020...? You know, the thought clicked with what happened back in TGA 2018; we got the surprise reveal of Joker as CP 1 for SSBU. Now what a coincidence it would be that two years later, if no DOOM Eternal news come up before November is over, that they decide to shadowdrop the news at TGA along with a surprise reveal of Doom Guy as CP 8. It could be a possible scenario, and it would serve more as a callback to TGA 2018 (having revealed the protagonist of an M rated game that at the time was not yet on the Nintendo Switch). Although the nominations don't have anything to do with said possibility (but you gotta admit they almost could hint at it), Bethesda/Id Software would have a win-win if it were to pan out that way.
 

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Nice to see Eternal still hit the 2020 release date on Switch, I was sure it'd have been delayed to 2021 by this point.
 

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Going by the Slayers Club FAQ that Isaac: Venus Adept Isaac: Venus Adept posted, Doom Eternal's storage size on the Switch is considerably less than what I was expecting - 18.8 GB. I was thinking about picking it up if it was less than 25 GB (since that's a third of the remaining space on my SD card, and most of the games that I download don't take up much space), so I might get it.

From the sounds of it, if you get Doom Eternal before December 23rd, you're sent a free code for Doom 64. I already have that game, but hopefully, I'll be able to send the code to my brother.
 
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Does it come with multiplayer? My brother and I might play battle mode together if it does.

EDIT: It does.
 
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Well, it is nice that we finally know a date for Eternal on the Switch. I would still prefer to it to also have the option of being a physical version but who knows.

Maybe an Special Eternal Edition with all the DLC included into the game later on?

:bowser: .
 
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Good to see the release is closer to the official Doom anniversary, the Cacowards and the VGA's.
We also finally got the Super Gore Nest master level.

https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1333620283249483776 and https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1333808970511888386 About some old game that had some text saying it had better visuals that Doom's at the time.
https://twitter.com/DrPyspy/status/1333660579899138049 Tyrant in classic Doom.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1333588350834503682 Classic Marauder, coming soon.
https://twitter.com/The_DBT/status/1333478644833005575 Kar En Tuk and its heavy cannon.
https://twitter.com/greasergays/status/1333334514018476032 Just some cool fanart i found (I'm aware of the username, just don't see the rest of the account if you don't want to).
https://twitter.com/ChiefSmokey1/status/1324756129566625792 New props of Deluge: Onset.
https://twitter.com/call_kaito/status/1333417137474473986 A fancy, detailed map, that seems to be blue magma and snow themed (This mapper is also working on some reimagening of Doom 2's levels called Doom 2 Resurrected i think).
https://twitter.com/Baron_o_Markers/status/1333232989384417280 You've seen Doomguy in THPS, so this is Tony Hawk in Doom.
https://twitter.com/kurokkiii/status/1333258981335306240 Doom 64 armor for Eternal.
https://twitter.com/RottKing/status/1333239140595462145 More of a city themed deathmatch map.
https://twitter.com/FairyGodBomber/status/1333198518941593604 Someone's own take on the Cyberdemon.
https://twitter.com/Combine_Kegan/status/1333038752692719617 More of that batton for Combined Arms but with sounds.
https://twitter.com/SuppliceGame/status/1332817522115170305 Supplice screenshot, with some lore about terraforming (Something i think could apply to Doom and explain why Phobos' sky looks that way.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1332874126923603970 and https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1332945498584588289 Sprites for custom weapons.
https://twitter.com/BBblazkowicz/status/1332735523622965248 A survival horror mod.
https://twitter.com/BoJustBo1/status/1332415901564612608 Pixel art of the Doom Hunter.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1332451251506860035 Custom Doom enemy based off the Maykrs (It's still just a single sprite, so far).
https://twitter.com/reddimus/status/1331972751272370178 Quake's Shubby's head used as an helmet for what appears to be the body of a Wolf 3D boss, so it may or may not count here.
https://twitter.com/EigakaArt/status/1332372956681474050 Unfinished Samuel Hayden fanart.
https://twitter.com/SuperUltra64/status/1332068480259149828 Art of Treasure Tech's helmets.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117072 Hellevator public beta.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074 DSDA-Doom 0.7.0 (PRBoom+ fork with extra tools).
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60456 Enemy mod "Champions" updated.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=68078 Mod "Critical Shots" also updated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8jy3oKoCc Icon of Sin in GMod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip8ZVri9XVQ Zero Master's video of 500 Doomguys on a Doom 2 playthrough (These extra Doomguys are from previous attempts).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k2lo9uFoxU A demo of a Doom 2 snow themed project.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyy_g59SsXM i assume this squishy Cacodemon video was already seen, by some people.
Also, Decino made a 2 year milestone video where he talks about how he came up with his name and more about him.

Hope i didn't mess up any link.
 

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Doom Eternal's out on the Switch now. I haven't gotten the chance to play it yet (I started the download, but I had other stuff that needed to get done this morning), but the first impressions that I saw on Reddit seem positive.

Also, I was given two codes for Doom 64, I think, which seems unusual. (I got two very different 16 digit codes in the e-mail about Doom 64) If they're both for Doom 64, I'm not sure what I'll do with the second one. (I already have the game, so I was planning on giving the code to my brother)

EDIT: turns out that the first code didn't work, but the second one did. I assume that it's due to me already owning Doom 64. Also, they give Switch owners several of the cosmetic packs, like the retro Revenant or Doomguy's Maykr and Ember skins, as an apology for the wait.
 
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From what i heard, the new port is good for what it is.
We're also even closer to the Doom anniversary, Cacowards and VGA's.
I also remember the official Doom twitter teasing an official FallGuys collab and i'm surprised it wasn't mentioned here.

Looking at Doom related info/news/stuff/whatever:
https://twitter.com/FSouchu/status/1335501419424702465 Poom released, which appears to be a demake of Doom on Pico-8 and you can play it in your browser.
https://github.com/krikzz/doom-68k Impressive Sega Genesis port of Doom by Krikzz using the Mega EverDrive PRO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMbNxYOyPj8 Scumhead released Lycanthorn II.
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1335955885349191683 MetaDoom introduces a new enemy, Titantula (According to the Github version), which is based off the Arachnotron in Eternal. The way how it works is that losing enough health causes the turret to break, so it switches to grenades (It can't really simulate the weak spot system).
https://twitter.com/Combine_Kegan/status/1335801786339262465 More of that batton in Combined Arms and its berserk update.
https://twitter.com/scwiba/status/1335772628628418562 Preview of Doom 64 map without textures.
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1335865351477706752 Upcoming Reelism 2 update.
https://twitter.com/majorarlene/status/1335301661225590786 Upcoming dark map for a little project.
https://twitter.com/Batandy_/status/1335902300133609472 Limbotropolis has been reworked in Golden Souls 3.
https://twitter.com/WhiteSarcophag1/status/1326045722777690113 Computer in a small GZDoom map.
https://twitter.com/SuperUltra64/status/1335724765642969089 Preview of upcoming Treasure Tech Land with gameplay.
https://twitter.com/KinoFabino/status/1335441301798592513 Doomguy and Samus crossover, by Fabino.
https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1335521560770146307 Turkeys.
https://twitter.com/Batandy_/status/1335298348945989636 Dialouge system in Golden Souls 3.
https://twitter.com/SuppliceGame/status/1335267684649472001 Flesh corruption in Supplice.
https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1335198532349820928 New weapon in Age of Hell.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1335071711499333632 Craneo seems to be working on a classic-fied Whiplash.
https://twitter.com/majorarlene/status/1334692824684634113 Screenshots of a map, seems inspired by Doom 64 and using OTEX textures.
https://twitter.com/SuperUltra64/status/1334052512983371776 Rocket Launcher sprites.
https://twitter.com/MoaDixon/status/1334344063886249984 Cool looking weapon sprites.
https://twitter.com/kinsie/status/1206816758381723653 A Christmas meme.
https://twitter.com/DanielWienerson/status/1332450982496636931 Voxel-fied Shotgunner.
https://twitter.com/nbajambook/status/1333509350317559808 Just in case nobody saw this unused Doom 64 cover art (Note the unused Cyberdemon design).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS8YBD2kA2Q Dragonfly's speed video of him building a Christmas map, i think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJK4K1Ef50 Someone testing grappling hook stuff in Doom (Their channel seems to have a lot of similar stuff like this, testing cool stuff).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X49gUc4p1Qg ZMovement V3.0 trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYqn-pIDvo8 Trailer for horror action TC named Siren, may be good for those into Doom 3 or even FEAR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDaakoJ15bc Zero Master finishing map 18 in 12 seconds (Was this ever here?).
https://twitter.com/DUSKdev/status/1333992340965515265 Dusk easter egg in Eternal's SGN Master Level.
https://twitter.com/Bridgeburner4/status/1333701172637548544 Hammer in Age of Hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0DVwhy3R3k Sandy Petersen reveals two real houses that inspired Doom 2's Map 16.
https://twitter.com/CreeperOfSteam/status/1336251996089815042 Gasmask HUD sprites by Craneo.
https://twitter.com/_Wereknight/status/1335624351278903297 and https://twitter.com/JawsInSpaceDW/status/1311755113300742144 seems to be a series of artworks for a project based off Doom 2 Hell to Pay and Perdition's Gate (Two those commercial wads that tried to focus more on story).
https://twitter.com/Endless_DMW/status/1334492240765448197 A cool looking fleshy map.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T1I13R4LqA A short funny video about winter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJEqlkMZQY Nothing new, i'm just reminded of Skulldash but i wonder if some people here ever played it or its expansion.
I also remember Doom 3 having some mods/TC's based off Quake 1 and Hexen.
 

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I realized Doom: Eternal finally came out today on switch but H'ooooo...59 is too much. i might need to buy an expansive card for the eshop.
 

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I guess for everyone that speculated a Slayer reveal during the game awards are at their moment of truth now, we'll see what happens by the end of the day
 

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Just saw the post from the Geno thread but yeah. Its happening, holy hell. If there's a good time to reveal Doom Slayer, it's now. It's just such a great opportunity considering the attention from western audiences and DOOM Eternal position for nominations.

I'll be crossing my fingers for any RIP N' TEAR on the VGA. Awards and as a playable character in Ultimate.

:bowser:.
 

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I think the 8th fighter is most likely be the Doomslayer because not only Doom Eternal for the Switch came out 2 days ago, but also today is also Doom's 27th anniversary.
 

Michael the Spikester

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Here's to tonight guys.

Honestly, if Doom Slayer ain't revealed I think his chances are good as dead because tonight would be the perfect opportunity to reveal him.
 

Megadoomer

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Here's to tonight guys.

Honestly, if Doom Slayer ain't revealed I think his chances are good as dead because tonight would be the perfect opportunity to reveal him.
Even if Doom Slayer isn't revealed tonight, there are still three other DLC characters coming - Nintendo's missed out on plenty of perfect chances to do things before.
 
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