Nefarious B
Smash Champion
Crouching cuts the stun time on dsmash
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Ask NickRiddle how to be amazing.
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MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
What's the best move to remove pikmin with?
Blubolouis
Smash Lord
thanks!Nefarious B said:
10stun
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Uair/bair/nair (unless yellow)
Umm...
MK. I have the most fun with him after ZSS.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
awww, though I wouldn't mind fighting a -3 MM(If I did I wouldn't be able to MM like 60% of players out there).
I mean Zelda still get ***** but its more enjoyable than MK/Olimar/GnW.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Eh... How does this change ANYTHING?
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
It doesn't.
It means you can't do dsmash x2 any more to anyone who crouches the first one.
it's hit lag.
Crouch cancelling reduces hit lag by 1/3rd.
Oh and what I mean is, you can't do dsmashx2 to a 3rd move anymore, they'll be able to avoid all 3rd moves. You can still get away with 2 dsmashes in succession though (I believe).
Crouch cancelling reduces hit lag by 1/3rd.
Oh and what I mean is, you can't do dsmashx2 to a 3rd move anymore, they'll be able to avoid all 3rd moves. You can still get away with 2 dsmashes in succession though (I believe).
Browny
Smash Hater
im stalking this thread to remind shaya he will never see an instance of when crouch cancelling in brawl was more beneficial than shielding in the same situation <3
Doubles.
Believe It.
Believe It.
Browny
Smash Hater
^ Kill the witch imo
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
You know, in the time someone crouched he could also, like, have shielded and we couldnt even do one dsmash.
And even then, if we hitconfirm Dsmash and see the crouch, we can just dsmash > anything instead of Dsmash-Dsmash > Anything.
So yeah, still doesnt change jack****.
edit Didnt read browny lol
Yeah what he said
Also, even in doubles its a rare situation. dont get hit n stuff, even if you can CC
Oh I'm fully aware its pretty useless. I have ulterior motives for hyping how much ZSS suc is totally a worse character now.
B.A.M.
Smash Lord
how good is ZSS vs opponents at the ledge? And what options are used to gain an advantage from that situation?
Deathfox30
Smash Journeyman
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Who's on the ledge? ZSS or her opponent? You didn't word that very well...
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Opponents at the ledge.
Shes good, Dsmash hits them on the ledge, sideb sometimes too. nB is a lasting hitbox is also pretty nice and runoff bair is fast and strong. DownB can be used if youre feeling lucky. Fsmash covers most getup options (lol)
Shes good, Dsmash hits them on the ledge, sideb sometimes too. nB is a lasting hitbox is also pretty nice and runoff bair is fast and strong. DownB can be used if youre feeling lucky. Fsmash covers most getup options (lol)
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Opponent at the ledge?
ZSS is pretty bad here if they know... how to dodge d-smash. You can run off the stage and stage-spike easily, but it can get you gimped...
You just have to be really smart.
ZSS on the ledge?
It's hard to get back on stage. Down-b is the best option as you can mix-up attack/footstool/land.
THE OWN ZONE!
How in the world do you use the down smash effectively? I, mean, it's great for when I can actually use it, but most players worth their salt(unless they get stunned) never give me the time to blast it.
Also, are there any combos that can be done out of the ground leg sweep thingy?
-MT
Also, are there any combos that can be done out of the ground leg sweep thingy?
-MT
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
... Lots of practice. When people were dismissing D-smash in 2009, I... didn't listen.
D-tilt > uair is the most common one.
D-tilt > bair/u-smash/up-b/fair also work.
So while I've played brawl for awhile, I'm very bad at it (compared to tournament level play). I had a question about a matchup. I went to my 2nd tournament today and played the most campy wolf I've ever seen. I was just wondering if you could give me any tips for the matchup. He literally just used laser, fsmash, dsmash (repeat). Also I really like your playstyle and love watching your matches.
Deathfox30
Smash Journeyman
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Powershield lazers, crawl under them, or jump over them. F smash and D smash have a lot of ending lag and are only good moves for punishing. If he's spamming them shield and punish with a shield drop tilt or jump over them and bair him during the cool down. I'm pretty sure our D smash is guaranteed with a powershield if he D smashes you. Knock him up in the air and he's pretty easy to juggle.
Look up Quiksilver vs Semifer on Youtube. He plays the MU pretty well.
Thank you very much. Cheers
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Tbh the standard getup options are oftentimes enough to get back up (getup, getupattack, roll, jump) as far as Ive experienced at least.
And yeah Fsmash really works. It literally covers all their options. Fsmash hits jump if timed perfectly, roll with backhitbox or getup with normal. It clanks the getupattack, which allows you to downB away or jab (jab is safe cuz it pushes them off, watch out for sdi tho)
And yeah Fsmash really works. It literally covers all their options. Fsmash hits jump if timed perfectly, roll with backhitbox or getup with normal. It clanks the getupattack, which allows you to downB away or jab (jab is safe cuz it pushes them off, watch out for sdi tho)
PEACE7
Smash Champion
Nickriddle your sig is soo ****ing sexy
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Space is a very sexy place.
PEACE7
Smash Champion
I'm losing my hype over zss 
how do i get back into wanting to play her?
how do i get back into wanting to play her?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Want to play her BETTER!I'm losing my hype over zss
I dunno.
What I do is I try to play somebody else, realize how much they suck, and then keep using ZSS.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
*He goes to MK and never comes back*
Why are you asking him? Haven't you seen his results, he constantly loses to Esam in tourney.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
*He goes to MK and never comes back*
Why are you asking him? Haven't you seen his results, he constantly loses to Esam in tourney.
I had a winning record on him during FL's last PR period.So you shut up!
Nick should use Marf against pikachu.
PEACE7
Smash Champion
I see and Shaya has spoken
B.A.M.
Smash Lord
If you get a low % dsmash what should you look for afterwards? DA>utilt? O and is there anything near guaranteed from a low % reverse nair? ( you know that hit box that pushes the opponent right infront of ZSS.)
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
No, it'd take too long.
DA > U-tilt/d-tilt.
Grab on some characters.
Nothing I can think of. Maybe d-smash.
B.A.M.
Smash Lord
Lol come on Nick, help the man. We will train our ZSS together.