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Ask NickRiddle how to be amazing.
- Thread starter NickRiddle
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What the BBR Match Up Chart says.
Right, NickRiddle?
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Right, NickRiddle?
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Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Pretty even
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
How will I be killing most of the time?
At the moment I almost exclusively kill with bair...
At the moment I almost exclusively kill with bair...
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Bair or Side-B, either or.
ZSS needs a less ****ty Fsmash.
ZSS needs a less ****ty Fsmash.
I've totally been ko'd by a zss fsmash once.
I think it has a hitbox/knockback that's similar to marth's neutral air (theres no data that makes it do more knockback, but something happens which increases the knock back during the later parts of the animation!). Also similar to how yoshi's usmash worked in smash 64 (maybe melee too) where depending on the direction you were coming from at the time, it kinda mirrored it.
Because this one time I was at like 90% and I got hit by an fsmash and it sent me FLYINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
I think it has a hitbox/knockback that's similar to marth's neutral air (theres no data that makes it do more knockback, but something happens which increases the knock back during the later parts of the animation!). Also similar to how yoshi's usmash worked in smash 64 (maybe melee too) where depending on the direction you were coming from at the time, it kinda mirrored it.
Because this one time I was at like 90% and I got hit by an fsmash and it sent me FLYINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
It's even.
it's still even, even IF you're a jerk.What the BBR Match Up Chart says.
Right, NickRiddle?
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Bair/uair/down-b/side-b.
F-smash is also a kill move at 180.Bair or Side-B, either or.
ZSS needs a less ****ty Fsmash.
ZSS's F-smash has like... 7-8 hitboxes for no reason.
One of them kills under 100.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
really? o.o
never seen that before
never seen that before
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
What shouldn't kill at 180? I'll list them all below:
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
It happens.
It's funny.
ZSS's throws, jabs, f-tilt, u-tilt, d-tilt, u-smash, d-smash and nair generally do not kill at 180.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I've killed with U-Smash before, around 180%.
I silently chuckle when that happened.
I silently chuckle when that happened.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I've hit with it at 210 and MK didn't die.
I was sadface.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Which shows how bad of a character she is.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
3.
It's... barely useful.
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
It's only useful at really low percents to force a trip to get in a DSmash for early damage, otherwise Dtilt completely outclasses it imo.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
The only other advantage f-tilt has... is when you angle it up.
It hits things like Marth trying to fair before you get hit due to the way he swings his sword.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Ftilt combos into dash attack on mid-percentages, which actually makes it better than Dtilt imo (Ftilt > DA > dtilt/utilt trucombo) but I only use it because Im used to buffering turnaround ftilt (being a former falco n stuff lol)
Btw isnt it fsmash supertippertytiptip that kills that early? If so, I need to test some stuff. Who knows, we might get a new **** mu if thats true.
Btw isnt it fsmash supertippertytiptip that kills that early? If so, I need to test some stuff. Who knows, we might get a new **** mu if thats true.
Why isn't it that good?
Nick, how does it feel to know that your precious down smash was better in 2008 than it is now with recent discoveries?
Browny
Smash Hater
Man, were you like in primary school back then?
you obv don't know what nickriddle obv is aware of.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
DEHF:
Ftilt has weird uses, like anti air in some cases. The up-angled version has a better disjoint than the other two, and the hitbox comes out a split second before the hurtbubbles activate so it's technically completely disjointed for a second. As a result it's good for beating Marth's fair if you predict it, but that requires a hard read and the rewards aren't really good enough to justify the risks associated with it. Down version trips at low percents and gimps characters with bad recoveries at high percents.
The only time the non-angled version is useful is when dtilt's range isn't enough and you need a hitbox now. Think of it as a slower jab with less reward and more risk, but with longer range.
I plan on covering stuff like this when I update the guide, which is coming soon.
Ftilt has weird uses, like anti air in some cases. The up-angled version has a better disjoint than the other two, and the hitbox comes out a split second before the hurtbubbles activate so it's technically completely disjointed for a second. As a result it's good for beating Marth's fair if you predict it, but that requires a hard read and the rewards aren't really good enough to justify the risks associated with it. Down version trips at low percents and gimps characters with bad recoveries at high percents.
The only time the non-angled version is useful is when dtilt's range isn't enough and you need a hitbox now. Think of it as a slower jab with less reward and more risk, but with longer range.
I plan on covering stuff like this when I update the guide, which is coming soon.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Because d-tilt is better.
Because he lurves me.
... SILENCE!
It's still good... just... not AS good...
SHUT UP! :'(
I haven't shared it yet.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Depends on the week.
From 1-4 times a week... 1-2 hours at a time.
Sometimes a saturday.
So... from 6-15 hours a week, probably.
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
When you play, which characters do you use suit pieces on/how many do you keep on the field?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I don't bother against Falco/Fox. I just use them for movement here.
I use 1 against MK/Pikachu/Wolf/anybody who can get to me quickly.
I use 2/3 against everybody else...
Unless they're good with items, then I just use 1. (person to person)
shlike
Smash Ace
Do you play any other chars competently besides zss?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Zelda and Bowser.
So no.
Blubolouis
Smash Lord
Could you please give a hint as to what you're refering to? I'm curious.NickRiddle said:
shlike
Smash Ace
nick how do you not get ***** by sei----brik? I played him a couple of matches at whobo and got gimped every 15 seconds (exaggeration but not far from the truth) Also will you ever come to texas?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I mix up my recovery... a lot...
Trust me... I get gimped too...
I just got so used to it I learned to get around it.
Wait till you get gimped by M2K about 95 times in a 99 stock match that he forces you through and then you'll know about mixing up your recovery...
Then he gimps you about 67 times out of a 99 stock match.
Then he gimps you about 67 times out of a 99 stock match.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Fuujin
Smash Champion
I think this is the guy who asked to mm my Zelda...with MK.
I said "I'm not playing a MM against MK as Zelda"
He says
"I'll use Olimar"
My reaction.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
See, I'm not mean.I think this is the guy who asked to mm my Zelda...with MK.
I said "I'm not playing a MM against MK as Zelda"
He says
"I'll use Olimar"
My reaction.
I'd just use Bowser.
Huh? I wanted to money match you with mk?