stingers
Smash Obsessed
just use the horizontal range to stuff aerial approaches.
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Ask NickRiddle how to be amazing.
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Nefarious B
Smash Champion
I've actually been thinking about this, I think it has pretty much the same range as utilt (in front) and is faster. I'm not sure about the DI thing SFP, I don't use it that much but I haven't been punished for it on hit, even if they do get out of it theres too much hitstun to punish (in my experience)
Hey, Nick (or anyone) , I need advice on edgeguarding.
I've been using ZSS for like 2 months now.
I'm good at racking damage, and at getting my opponent off of the stage,
but when that is done, I lose creativity (lack of experience).
Any sexy shenanigans or edgeguarding-tactics you wanna share?
I've been using ZSS for like 2 months now.
I'm good at racking damage, and at getting my opponent off of the stage,
but when that is done, I lose creativity (lack of experience).
Any sexy shenanigans or edgeguarding-tactics you wanna share?
Orion*
Smash Researcher
so ive been ****** zerosuits since 2008 and i wanted to know how you place below bottom 5
how are you not getting gimped ._____.
and why are falcos losing to you LOL should not even be a mu discussion
how are you not getting gimped ._____.
and why are falcos losing to you LOL should not even be a mu discussion
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
I wish your vids vs Choice were recorded Nick, he usually beats me pretty bad, even though I can handle every other Falco in Norcal
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
Ask olimars how he doesn't get gimped. We have and extra jump and a boost jump on up b. But oli can still recover and he just has just an up b.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
olimars arent recovering ._.
except japanese ones apparently, and thats because you know, he can throw **** and has superarmor. zss has doodoo options if chars just throw a hitbox out jump is gone or a move with a lasting hitbox it goes through the invince frames of your down b
except japanese ones apparently, and thats because you know, he can throw **** and has superarmor. zss has doodoo options if chars just throw a hitbox out jump is gone or a move with a lasting hitbox it goes through the invince frames of your down b
ThreeSided
Smash Ace
That's the thing, though. Her jumps climb so fast that they are difficult to steal. It either either moves her out of the way of the hitbox or into it, the second of which is much less likely unless it's a projectile, because if ZSS jumps up into a char. she's probably going to hit them with Uair before they can steal her jump.
And as for hitting her out of the flip, I shouldn't have to tell you why people aren't trying to hit ZSS out of her down b off stage. In fact, I'm not going to. Your just going to have to ask someone else.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
I don't think people understand the how and why behind the matchup being that bad tbh.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Tell me a character, and I'll give you an answer.
Because I learned to... not get gimped. :D
Also, bnecause I can gimp Falco, nd he can SD on RC. :D
I wish my vids of me beating DEHF were recorded.
Can't always get whaty ou want.
To add onto this, ZSS's uair beats like... almost every move in the game.That's the thing, though. Her jumps climb so fast that they are difficult to steal. It either either moves her out of the way of the hitbox or into it, the second of which is much less likely unless it's a projectile, because if ZSS jumps up into a char. she's probably going to hit them with Uair before they can steal her jump.
And as for hitting her out of the flip, I shouldn't have to tell you why people aren't trying to hit ZSS out of her down b off stage. In fact, I'm not going to. Your just going to have to ask someone else.
DJ uair is too good.
Edgeguarding against Wario & Snake.
I need to get better at edgeguarding in general, though.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Wario:
Dair always beats his Bike. Just throwing this out there. (If you would be in an advantageous position after losing your stock.
With no Bike/Fart, D-smash > footstool kills Wario.
If Wario goes high, boost-jump your first jump, then hit Wario for being stupid against ZSS.
Snake:
If Snake goes low, just laugh about it and deal as much damage as you want. (D-smash > footstool actually keeps him low, giving you more damage opportunities.)
You can also use your flipstool, for it's bigger range, to footstool Snake after a c4 recovery.
If Snake goes really high, boost jump > DJ reverse nair is the biggest thing you have.
It's fun.
Umm... yeah.
Off the top of my head. (I'm so tired. -.-)
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Nick showed me how to beat Snakes.
I am forever in debt to him.
I am forever in debt to him.
hiROI
Smash Lord
Are you coming to WATO this week? :D
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I would like to see Riddle go.
However, if that question is directed towards me...
Yes, so we can **** teams and lose to M2K+Whoever he teams with.
Yes, so we can **** teams and lose to M2K+Whoever he teams with.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I'm not.
Need to catch up on school.
Need to catch up on school.
shlike
Smash Ace
nick how the **** did you beat DEHF??
and how we're your matches with mikehaze?
and how we're your matches with mikehaze?
I kinda have the same question as shilke on the whole you beating Larry stuff
but Im wondering if you have any tips for that mu. If so, much appreciated
but Im wondering if you have any tips for that mu. If so, much appreciated
D
Deleted member
Guest
How does it feel to lose to cheese?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Magic, gimps, and SDs. XD
Gimped him last stock game 1, he SDed 1st stock game 3.
Also, I da bess.
Haze's matches were close. Won the first match, lost the second one, was close to timing out the third game.
Knock Falco off the level, and make him dead.
I'm not even kidding.
Edgeguarding Falco is the ONLY way to win the MU.
Time our amazing 1-frame jab to knock Falco out of phntasm.
D-smash him.
Footstool, nd tether the ledge.
Yup.
Also, up-b knocks Falco out of phantasm after the invincible first 1/3 of it.
I got Cheese'd.
I don't care, honestly.
The rule was strict, but it was there.
Thanks a bunch!
I told my friend footstools were a fun way to kill Falco and he laughed at me...
Yeahh...He won't be laughing anymore.
I told my friend footstools were a fun way to kill Falco and he laughed at me...
Yeahh...He won't be laughing anymore.
Mike2
Smash Ace
Do you play with rumble on or off?
and
How do you suggest getting better at Brawl? Kinda vague but I'm talking in terms of mindsets, how to practice, what to do, ect.
and
How do you suggest getting better at Brawl? Kinda vague but I'm talking in terms of mindsets, how to practice, what to do, ect.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Whatever happens to be there.
Mike2
Smash Ace
Added a second question btw:
How do you suggest getting better at Brawl? Kinda vague but I'm talking in terms of mindsets, how to practice, what to do, ect.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Practice against people at your level, or slightly higher.
Play to learn, not to win.
No idea how else to practice.
Try stuff until you find something that works.
Mike2
Smash Ace
Thanks, Nick.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I lost a $5 MM to M2K. Should I feel bad?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Terrible.
Nope.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Lube your ***** up.
The **** is coming.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I have no idea who they are.
Well, I think Oats is a Lucas.
What're you worried about again?
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
Isn't Hall that Snake from the WC?
Mike2
Smash Ace
Who would you main if ZSS didn't exist?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Link in Melee.
Or MK.
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
lol yes Nick is the expert on San Diego brawlers, excellent choice. I've only played them both in tournies and many friendlies, and teamed with one of them. I wouldn't know anything about them
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
I am an expert on everything.lol yes Nick is the expert on San Diego brawlers, excellent choice. I've only played them both in tournies and many friendlies, and teamed with one of them. I wouldn't know anything about them
It was the PERFECT choice. :D
demonictoonlink
Smash Master
Why am I the best ZSS? Was it all the practice? Or the fact that I don't play her to hide how good mine is?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
You are a demon, which automatically makes you amazing at stuff.
You're also a Toon Link, and everybody knows he's a little kid.
Little kids have more time to play Brawl than adults.
Therefore!
You have more to to practice Toon LInk, and you use demonic thought-stealing powers to learn everything about ZSS, every cool thing every top ZSS doesn, and then you have time to practice it.
I could be in an Ace Attorney game.