VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
Poor Zelda
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Ask NickRiddle how to be amazing.
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NickRiddle
#negativeNick
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Why thank you, good friend <3
CO18
Smash Hero
why, wed just destroy them
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Yo CO18 post your 5000th post here nao.
TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
M0ar retreating side-b = hax.
I have learned this through many MK MU's.
-shrug- Works for me. Maybe the MK I play isn't the best.
I have learned this through many MK MU's.
-shrug- Works for me. Maybe the MK I play isn't the best.
Snakeee
Smash Master
Well I can honestly go Marth against you to avoid the boring ditto. I've been using him a lot lately and the match up isn't all that tricky. It'd be more a battle of mind games which is the way I like it
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Vs. MK? Enjoy getting grabbed,
<3 the Marth MU.Well I can honestly go Marth against you to avoid the boring ditto. I've been using him a lot lately and the match up isn't all that tricky. It'd be more a battle of mind games which is the way I like it
I wish I played a second that wasn't Zelda.
There's a reason why you play only girly characters?Well I can honestly go Marth against you to avoid the boring ditto. I've been using him a lot lately and the match up isn't all that tricky. It'd be more a battle of mind games which is the way I like it
noradseven
Smash Lord
I normally do it to see how long it takes them to start trying to grab me :xd:, oftentimes they mess up the timing a bit on the first attempt and I punish there grab attempted and then they stop trying to grab for a while
. Doesn't work against anyone that has played against ZSS's before.They can totally nado you to, if they do it right. It works well against jump happy or flight happy MKs.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
My fave MU with ZSS fo sho
Snakeee
Smash Master
You say girly, I say refined and graceful
....which ppl think is girly for whatever reasonBut Marth.. Is girly.You say girly, I say refined and graceful
Btw I use female characters too..
But the reason is that I'm a little perv.
I have no problem to admit that.
Snakeee
Smash Master
Lol, well I'd say I am above gender bias. Having a sort of "finesse" should be something desired by everyone. It sucks how men are afraid to enjoy anything that could be said to be "feminine," and not even half those things actually are anyway.
TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
I can't stand it. But, lack of experience makes this so.
The only Marth main in my circle of friends just aggressively owns me. D:
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
I kinda know the Marth MU because my crewmate played him back when he played Brawl.
Also, playing Kadaj when he came to CEO helped me alot as well.
Also, playing Kadaj when he came to CEO helped me alot as well.
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
I suuck against marth.
And yeah I play ZS because she has a fun moveset and style, I've never understood why people play characters for their sexiness or anything else...it's a ****ing animation. If they're fun to play who cares
And yeah I play ZS because she has a fun moveset and style, I've never understood why people play characters for their sexiness or anything else...it's a ****ing animation. If they're fun to play who cares
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
^^^^^
This
This
Don't worry I agree with everything you say.
I usually play only characters that I like.
99% of them are space/robotic girls
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Bair outranges any of Peach's fast aerials. I think her fair is longer, but it has so much startup you should avoid it on reaction. Paralyzer, possibly short-hopped would work. Uair is AMAZING vs. Peach.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Carefully.
Ruuku
Smash Lord
What does NickRiddle think about the ZSS vs G&W matchup?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
60:40 ZSS. loljab
NickRiddle has the ability to think?
I just hit the c-stick down into the keyboard and it comes up with an answer.
VSC.D-Torr
Smash Hero
LOL
I can imagine your computer having a c-stick where the "C" button is supposed to be
for what reason i don't know
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Oh you BBR people.
I just hit the shield with, relatively, safe attacks until it pokes, or they drop it.
if you meant people shield-pressuring me... it's not hard to get out of. Uair/Jab/Utilt OOS are AMAZING!
I cosplay as ZSS only when my girlfriend wants me to.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Nope. It knows.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Once or twice.
It got very old, very fast.
Are you just... waiting for me to answer, so you can say ANOTHER random question?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
hey, I was recently inspired to play ZSS due to a certain someone (<3 you bro, best kirby), so can you answer a few questions for me?
- armor pieces in doubles. it seems like they just get in the way. what do you think?
- is jab oos the best thing to do against mks glide attack?
- is weak stun gun to grab legit or are people just dumb
- armor pieces in doubles. it seems like they just get in the way. what do you think?
- is jab oos the best thing to do against mks glide attack?
- is weak stun gun to grab legit or are people just dumb
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Pieces in doubles are only good if you partner is good with them. If your partner isn't get rid of them, as your opponents may be good with them.
Jab OOS is pretty good, but I much prefer just throwing a fair out. The first one pings with glide-attack, and the second one hits. This is basically guaranteed.
Weak stun to grab is legit at some spacings.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
and it seems like a lot of the zss vids I watch, people are too scared to throw the grab out...it seems to me like all of her throws are pretty great, so the risk is worth it especially since zss actually has safe lead-ins to it...
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
That's pretty much where I'm predicting our metagame to progress to, as people start trying to follow the typical shield everything and you win against us, grab setups are going to be more and more important.
You're right in thinking our grabs are pretty ****. Fthrow and dthrow are the most useful; use bthrow only to toss them off the ledge, and uthrow is never used. We also have CGs and air release shenanigans from grab that ****.
Your best setups into grab are gonna be the stuns, punishing a landing, or pivot grabbing, though even vanilla grabs can work a surprising amount of the time just because everyone has that typical mindset i mentioned. SFP says sourspot uair combos into pivot grab, though i have a hard time landing those at ground level in actual matches so i don't think it'd be as useful