Beetle Juice
Smash Journeyman
One day we will to gimp him successfully
On the meantime let's just laugh at those that try
On the meantime let's just laugh at those that try
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#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Midrange SHL won't keep him at bay.
He doesn't use Dair (too much lag), only on rare occasions
and Turtle = shieldpoke god, especially if you eat 2
I can tech the downthrow.
I think jab is useless vs. turtle, and turtle is like everything he will do when approaching, followed by some more seaworld action (fishies and more turtles)
He usually gets me with a 'seaworld combo' as I call it, nair, nair, bair, upB. **** do I hate that.
Sounds like something I should look into
No, the techroll is faster if you just roll away from him, he cant do **** then (well maybe chef
)I have a dream...One day we will to gimp him successfully
On the meantime let's just laugh at those that try
Overall I'm starting to try to SDI/DI the turtles and fishes some more, but I'm not trained enough to have that good reflexes.
I'll play him again today, and request him to record and upload a match.
Meanwhile see him pwn a friend of mine, notice how most of his damage received is because he made a mistake. (Note: most)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8HdiIfiTU&feature=channel_page
(yeah, I know he gets slaughtered for his recovery, but believe me it's quite impossible to recover if kaak isn't sandbagging)
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Would be great
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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And the video thread doesn't have any? I thought there was one of Sethlon playing against Hylian's G&W on Delfino. Outdated, but....
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
No butting, outdated.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Doesn't mean it's not any useful xP
Hawks go Caw
Smash Ace
I just watched it and he's really impressive. Maybe that's not the greatest Falco ever, but still . . . crazy.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
That Falco is just below my level.
I played some games against him, and I had a really bad day, tbh.
I noticed however that at times when I combined lasers and shine in a good way I could keep him away for a long time, till he got pissed and was able to exploit openings and get him with a dacus or something.
Biggest mistakes that day were the overuse of fsmash (I just have a fetish for it, never lost it
), recovery (even if I recover any better it's still hard, but I really need to learn the cancel for this, even though it's hard) and need moar lazorz!!I also noticed that if you silent laser, you can buffer a ground laser and get another grounded laser all in a blink of an eye, I noticed this before but never bothered to find the source of the laserspam.
I call it laserstorming, it's quite handy imo
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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About the grounded laser. I don't think people use it enough. Everyone sticks with SHL/SHDL way too much, but I feel that the save use of the grounded laser can be used.
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Exactly, especially against smaller characters. On longer ranges he probably won't dodge with a jump 'cause you've been doing a shdl/shl anyway, so it's kinda free damage and unstaling.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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I had a question in general. What situations would it be useful to NOT grab the ledge when using Phantasm? I know how you can avoid grabbing the ledge with phantasm, even if you stop dead in front of the ledge, but I cannot really seem to find much of a use for this.
Pretty much you angle the control stick or C-stick down when using phantasm and that will negate falco from grabbing any ledge during phantasms animation. The only application I can see is delaying when Falco grabs the ledge pretty much. If you are hanging by the ledge you can phantasm directly into the ledge holding the stick(s) down and you'll avoid grabbing the ledge for the full duration of the move till you let go and then falco will auto snap the ledge.
Pretty much you angle the control stick or C-stick down when using phantasm and that will negate falco from grabbing any ledge during phantasms animation. The only application I can see is delaying when Falco grabs the ledge pretty much. If you are hanging by the ledge you can phantasm directly into the ledge holding the stick(s) down and you'll avoid grabbing the ledge for the full duration of the move till you let go and then falco will auto snap the ledge.
Zesty_Chicken
Smash Cadet
The only reason I can see is for mindgames. I saw SK92 do it a few times.
AvoiD
Smash Lord
Any tips on playing a Dancing Blade spam-happy Marth?
Or just Marth all together. I tried to keep my distance with IAP and Phantasm, but it seems to always get me. Which way can you DI to get out of DB?
Or just Marth all together. I tried to keep my distance with IAP and Phantasm, but it seems to always get me. Which way can you DI to get out of DB?
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
Well DI'ing DB depends on what directions Marth inputs. Your best bet is SDI Towards and Above Marth. On Shield either eat it and Up Smash after the 3rd one....or Roll Away.
AvoiD
Smash Lord
Whoops, thought I posted it, but I mean his 3rd DB, when going Down with multiple hits at the end.
And kk, thanks. <3
And kk, thanks. <3
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
You don't DI out of dancing blade, you shield grab through it.
I'm able to do it after the second hit consistantly, I've seen sk92 do the same so it should be possible once you get the timing down.
Also DI behind marth and you get a free attack of choice (except for fsmash :D)
You mean fourth, DB has 4 parts.
and I really don't know because I usually don't get trapped in it, sorry.
I'm able to do it after the second hit consistantly, I've seen sk92 do the same so it should be possible once you get the timing down.
Also DI behind marth and you get a free attack of choice (except for fsmash :D)
You mean fourth, DB has 4 parts.
and I really don't know because I usually don't get trapped in it, sorry.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
The multiple hit one is weird.
Also OoSUS > Grab
Also OoSUS > Grab
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
I just overall prefer grabs against marth, just a personal preference.
What's the input for usmash oos?
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
It's
Hold Shield (R/L), then Jump (Tap X/Y/ I use L), Up-Smash (C-stick up/Up A)
Hold Shield (R/L), then Jump (Tap X/Y/ I use L), Up-Smash (C-stick up/Up A)
JustKindaBoredUKno
Smash Lord
wheres the frame data at here?
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
JustKindaBoredUKno
Smash Lord
thanks, i appreciate it.
A New England Winter
Smash Lord
Just a note, when I do USmash OOS, I'll do the same, but instead of C-Sticking, I just slide my thumb from Y to A and hit Up on the Control Stick. Makes it easier to do without having to change my controls around.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
Yeah that's possible too, in fact I also do it like that. I just didn't want to confuse anyone with my terrible explination skills.
exdia_16
Smash Journeyman
I want to make my Falco's game better without using chain grabs need guide reference please.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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*pokes stickies*
Everything you need is in there. You just have to look through them.
Everything you need is in there. You just have to look through them.
Cross.
Smash Ace
how do you shield grab dancing blades 2nd hit? DI back and hold shield?
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Denzi
Smash Master
IF you aren't shielding when the DB first hits you won't be able to.
Fire!
Smash Champion
Could someone state ALL the advantages of using Jungle Japes as a counterpick?
I'm already very comfortable with Falco and Japes, (Falco is my second) but I don't really feel that I am using the stage at its fullest potential. Is there some tech that I may not know about that completely makes Falco broken on that stage?
I'm already very comfortable with Falco and Japes, (Falco is my second) but I don't really feel that I am using the stage at its fullest potential. Is there some tech that I may not know about that completely makes Falco broken on that stage?
BetaZealot
Smash Journeyman
CG spike into the water. Falco can Phantasm from edge to edge.
Can someone tell me how to do the buffered CG?
AvoiD
Smash Lord
Basically it.
Camping in the middle with lasers. Phantasm to get through the stage quicker. CG to Spike is all you need to win in that stage.
Basically, before your D-throw animation is over, input the Grab -> D-throw animation again.
Camping in the middle with lasers. Phantasm to get through the stage quicker. CG to Spike is all you need to win in that stage.
Basically, before your D-throw animation is over, input the Grab -> D-throw animation again.
AvoiD
Smash Lord
You could. I never thought of that. I usually wait for the animation to be over, dash, and the RBPG.
Try it, sounds like it'd work, and pretty sure others have used it lul.
Try it, sounds like it'd work, and pretty sure others have used it lul.
BetaZealot
Smash Journeyman
Do you have a video of it? I'm on my phone. No green…
clowsui
Smash Legend
there's more to the buffer cg
if you're buffering a walk cg then you have to kinda softly tap right and hold at the end of the animation
if you wanna dash then you press hard for the "foxtrot" kinda animation
if you're buffering a walk cg then you have to kinda softly tap right and hold at the end of the animation
if you wanna dash then you press hard for the "foxtrot" kinda animation
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
I advise that you do for the best results. Sometimes, your opponent can break out if it's not perfect :s
#HBC | ZoZo
Shocodoro Blagshidect
Whats the input for spin sliding?
Hold A -> Forward on control stick -> Cstick up and backwards is what I heard, but it makes me charge a smash.
Even if, can you hold or do you have to repeat forward and cstick up and backwards?
Hold A -> Forward on control stick -> Cstick up and backwards is what I heard, but it makes me charge a smash.
Even if, can you hold or do you have to repeat forward and cstick up and backwards?
I just move back and forth on the analog stick.