Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)

[Shaya]

Be manly and sh wave bounce counter.

 

[illinialex24]

Be manly and sh wave bounce counter.

Lol I do this once in a while. If you use a fair the attacks cancel out so he won't pull away from you so counter. It works well if you time it well, if not, he's D-smashing you lol.

 

[TKD+ITA+Mar=]

How well would DB1 work? It wouldn't be outprioritized due to it's transcendal priority. Though, the obvious short coming is its range, but it might make up for it with its speed.

I don't know, just a random thought.

 

[illinialex24]

How well would DB1 work? It wouldn't be outprioritized due to it's transcendal priority. Though, the obvious short coming is its range, but it might make up for it with its speed.

I don't know, just a random thought.

It gets outprioritized I believe actually. Thats been my experience.

 

[TKD+ITA+Mar=]

Really? That's unfortunate. =/

 

[Steel]

? it cant be out pri oritized but its really out range d.

 

[Prince Of Fire]

Backlashmarth-we should play online sometime?

I never do Marth dittos.....if anyone wants to play online that is near Connecticut (so lag isnt horrible) let me know.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Use Jab over Ftilt. Its a lot faster and surves basically the same purpose.

Dtilt is one of Marth's best moves, abuse it.

Way to spell "serves"

 

[BacklashMarth]

Backlashmarth-we should play online sometime?

I never do Marth dittos.....if anyone wants to play online that is near Connecticut (so lag isnt horrible) let me know.

Sure why not. Depending on what im doing, i may be able to play you sometime within the next few days. I can use a bit of experience b4 this tourney im headed to on Saturday.

 

[Prince Of Fire]

5455-9050-8923

 

[BBoyindo]

Guys the wifi thread is there for a reason -.-

 

[KRiMz0N]

so's the visitor messages

also ftilt is good spacer y/n

or does it has too much lag

 

[Steel]

too laggy to be used reliably.

 

[BBoyindo]

Ftilt is a good anti air move, just as Jab. Jab is faster, Ftilt has more range.

 

[KRiMz0N]

should i double jab

q.e.d. is double jab different from jab aside from the reverse direction

 

[Slasherx]

Umm, I'm having trouble with a camping Olimar.
All he does is run away, throw pikmins and shield grab when I approach him.
I've try F-air fast fall to Dtilt and grabs as my approach.
Any advice?

 

[KRiMz0N]

counter when his pikmin are on you

db a lot

ds out of shield a lot

 

[Slasherx]

counter when his pikmin are on you

db a lot

ds out of shield a lot

First one is a horrible idea, Olimar grab range ****.
DS out a shield is a bit risky, especialy when Oli just runs away...
I guess using massive Dancing blade is the best option.

 

[KRiMz0N]

well if you know it's going to be a counter to put enough space between you

same with ds

but dbing is the victor anyway, you're right

 

[C.J.]

unlike most others, Oli doesn't have grab armor, so, when he grabs start a dtilt or something of the sort and it will hit him, and he'll release you with you only taking the damage the the grab release (3%)

 

[Prince Of Fire]

Umm, I'm having trouble with a camping Olimar.
All he does is run away, throw pikmins and shield grab when I approach him.
I've try F-air fast fall to Dtilt and grabs as my approach.
Any advice?

I feel this is one of marths worst match ups. You can't camp him back......at all. I'm more annoyed at this match up than Snake or Meta Knight actually.

You need to pay attention to how many pikmin he has and when he is low....go get him. Olimars always freak out when they have 1-2 pikmin left. Get them nervous. I find that forward b with the downward ending (whatever the heck that move is called) works wonders in this match up. Also, just standing there a good distance away is a good idea too because most people will think, "LOL, time to throw pikmin at you because i have amazing range!" at this point...figure out his rhythm of throwing and as hes throwing a pikmin...run in and catch him off guard. While doing forward b need to be sure though that you do each sword swipe slowly though as opposed to fast because they can't side step the slashes...so they will shield the entire time and either

a-Mess up the timing of when to release shield and get hit (allowing for you to take the offensive.)

B-get that shield broken allowing for a free shield breaker.

When olimar goes off stage fair or nair him and then instantly grab the ledge. if you see the olimar re organizing his pikmin jump off and bair him and start to let him get a little bit scared. You absolutely **** olimar in the air as long as you space nicely and don't go too close to him...but not too far away.

Good counterpicks in this matchup for tournament-Jungle Japes, Rainbow Cruise.

 

[Pr0phetic]

I feel this is one of marths worst match ups. You can't camp him back......at all. I'm more annoyed at this match up than Snake or Meta Knight actually.

You need to pay attention to how many pikmin he has and when he is low....go get him. Olimars always freak out when they have 1-2 pikmin left. Get them nervous. I find that forward b with the downward ending (whatever the heck that move is called) works wonders in this match up. Also, just standing there a good distance away is a good idea too because most people will think, "LOL, time to throw pikmin at you because i have amazing range!" at this point...figure out his rhythm of throwing and as hes throwing a pikmin...run in and catch him off guard. While doing forward b need to be sure though that you do each sword swipe slowly though as opposed to fast because they can't side step the slashes...so they will shield the entire time and either

a-Mess up the timing of when to release shield and get hit (allowing for you to take the offensive.)

B-get that shield broken allowing for a free shield breaker.

When olimar goes off stage fair or nair him and then instantly grab the ledge. if you see the olimar re organizing his pikmin jump off and bair him and start to let him get a little bit scared. You absolutely **** olimar in the air as long as you space nicely and don't go too close to him...but not too far away.

Good counterpicks in this matchup for tournament-Jungle Japes, Rainbow Cruise.

Dude, this is definitely NOT one of Marth's worst match-ups, its not even bad. He camping? So what? Swat that crap and rush in (well with a safe idea on how to approach). You apply the pressure on and off-stage, and you'll be more fine against the campy Olimar. Just be wary of spacing, or you will be shield grabbed.

 

[Kishin]

Well, for Olimar, if you try to space mass F-airs constantly then he will get between them and **** you with a U-smash. If he shields dancing blade then you're in for a shield grab. The Olimar I get ***** by sometimes does a throw (I don't know which one) and then follows up with a dash past pivot grab -> another throw that then followed up with a U-air. I've tried a lot of things to get out but none have proved to be 100% successful, I'll just blame wi-fi delay. Sometimes he does the throw and then plucks a few pikmin out in front of me. Also, the purple pikmin completely *****.

 

[Steel]

Fair > DI way back still gets you grabbed btw. Just saying.

 

[Kishin]

Is there a new way to DI out of a tipped F-smash from a B-throw and F-throw? I've been seeing that people aren't getting tipped by these or not getting hit at all. Is there a proper method to DI out of the tip range out of the grab or is it bad wi-fi screwing my buffering time over?

 

[Steel]

Please search around, this has been answered countless times.

There are certain characters that can't be hit from an fsmash after a dthrow or an fthrow unless you stutter step it. Even then, there are certain characters who can avoid it.

 

[C.J.]

I know that Ulevo used to have a list of it all including %s it works at, but, now that he has deleted all his threads, is there another list of them all?

 

[Kishin]

I guess my post wasn't specific enough. I was playing a Marth and he escaped my down throw -> F-smash at 0%. I never remembered Marth being able to escape it, but that could be my crap memory. The list of percents and characters that it doesn't work on is gone if I'm not mistaken.

or it could be wi-fi...

 

[Steel]

its not guaranteed on marth

 

[Kishin]

****... so how do you just DI away? I always get hit by it for some ******** reason. I sux.

 

[Steel]

di away, up b, or just plain mistime your fsmash

 

[BentoBox]

Marth is despicable. I hate you guys. ***** all the characters I grow a liking for. If you can't beat em join em they say; I can't play Marth for crap either. wtf is dis. RAGE.

 

[Steel]

Good thing your user name is amazing.

 

[BentoBox]

Ilu too <3.

 

[Vitamin_x]

Marth is despicable. I hate you guys. ***** all the characters I grow a liking for. If you can't beat em join em they say; I can't play Marth for crap either. wtf is dis. RAGE.

Go use metaknight.

 

[KRiMz0N]

If you can't beat em join em they say; I can't play Marth for crap either. wtf is dis. RAGE.

if you're an enemy of marth, marth will not accept you as a master

 

[BentoBox]

Go use metaknight.

Fapping since the age of 5 has molded my hands in a way that makes any swordsman unplayable.

H8U.

 

[DJMirror]

Bentobox? when you get *****, do yo people call you bent over box?

ok back on Topic

how do marth camp and play like a *****

 

[Rog~er]

who uses rising aerials? i think is more effective than c-stick aerials.

 

[Pr0phetic]

who uses rising aerials? i think is more effective than c-stick aerials.

I think you mean SH Aerials 0.o And you should use it everynow and then.