Legend of Zelda Archive: Theory Thread

[Darkurai]

You already said that. I'm thinking the "Purple Old Guy"(from now on that is his name) is a garo general/leader. I'm probably just being ******** and an attention *****.

I tend to forget where I say certain things. But I suppose that's possible, although he only has one eye whereas Garos have two.

 

[Shade613]

He could have been stabbed in the head when he died and the othe garo leaders are wearing masks so we never saw their faces.

 

[Darkurai]

Another theory coming up. I'm not too proud of this one, since its hardly my own, but I wanted to throw something out there about it.

 

[SinkingHigher]

That theory would have worked perfectly with my theory of Epona being murdered.

I always kinda assumed that Skull Kid did that to him. Perhaps masks NEED a spirit for them to have powers, like the spirit of the dancing man who gives you the mask to lead to gymnasts, or the spirit of the soldier who gives you the stone mask. In other words, your mask collection is not simply a bunch of wood carvings, but a collection of spirits that you somehow connect with (like in the transformation masks' cutscenes.)

 

[XACE-K]

Has been heard of before so it's not the big. But I still <3 these theories.

 

[황미영]

I don't really get what you are trying to prove with the Deku Butler's Son theory... Are you just trying to add more info on it? Yours sounds the same as almost everybody else's. No offense or anything. The other ones you have are great though. :D

I suggest you go on Zelda Universe and read Hylian Dan's theory on Termina, its amazing and if you have... Okay then! xD

 

[Darkurai]

As I said before, I'm not too proud of posting the Deku Butler Son theory as I didn't add anything to it. This is proof that you can't expect daily things from me, and the theories will be a bit irregular in how often they occur.

Also, some of my theories will be expansions of other theories. The Gorman Brothers theory, for example, is something I found elsewhere and took it a few steps further. People suggest that the Gorman Brothers caused the invasion, but I connected the dots to the Garo.

I'll try to have another theory up real soon. Perhaps one about a different game, this time?

 

[Shade613]

Seems some monstrous Garos appeared at Romani Ranch yesterday. And I heard the wagon carrying their milk was attacked. I tell you, that's a dangerous place... Seems like we're the only ones who have any milk left. Hyuh, hyuh. - Gorman Bros.

It is probably something nintendo over looked when making the game because If you do keep the ranch safe, on the next day the gorman bros. attack the wagon carrying milk while wearing garo masks. Another reason why I don't think The aliens aren't garos is because they don't have legs. And if the aliens were garo why didn't they charge the barn with swords instead of walk slowly twords it.

 

[Ochobobo]

I've heard that the tree is the Deku Butler's son, but I haven't heard that the Deku Mask is also the Deku Butler's son. Interesting.

Tatl reinforces it by pointing out how the tree looks like Link looked at the moment.

 

[Scott!]

I always really liked how the Deku butler's son wasn't just a random reference, but was significant. That part really moved me, especially because it's hidden, and the butler never makes a big deal of it to you that much.

 

[Kingdom Come]

I'll try to have another theory up real soon. Perhaps one about a different game, this time?

If possible could you do some theories for Oot?

 

[Spire]

If possible could you do some theories for Oot?

OoT has been torn apart theory-wise since 1998. Majora's Mask has been tapped into here and there, but no where near as much. A number of other titles could use some theorizing though.

I'd personally keep my hands off OoT as much as possible (but since just about everything relates back to it, that's kind of hard).

 

[Ochobobo]

Go for Link's Awakening or Oracle of Ages (just cause I liked that game more than Seasons lolol)

Also I have heard VERY FEW theories for Twilight Princess. I'm not sure why.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Oh, I didn't know there were many theories for Oot.

Sorry, I'm kinda new to the Zelda part of these boards.

 

[Scott!]

^^ Aren't we all. :D (Cause this board is like 2 1/2 weeks old...) But OoT is and has always been the biggest focus of the most fans. I second 8bobo's suggestion of the handhelds as a possible focus if you're a fan of them, Darkurai. They're more commonly overlooked.

 

[Shade613]

Why is everyone talking about games that aren't MM?

@Darkurai
Your theory about the deku butler's son is very obvious.

 

[Random Question]

those are epic theories.

 

[Grey Belnades]

I really like your theories, they're really good to read.

 

[Darkurai]

Why is everyone talking about games that aren't MM?

@Darkurai
Your theory about the deku butler's son is very obvious.

That's going to become something I'll regret for the lifetime of the whole thread, isn't it?

I'm aware that theory is old and overdone. I've even said it in the theory itself.

Anyway, I'm currently working on a Twilight Princess theory. I don't know if I'll be able to connect all the dots, but at the very least I'll bring out an outline of it somehow.

 

[FAILchion-]

I don't think there are many theories to OoT as there are with MM. MM, without a doubt, is the darkest and most mysterious of all the titles, and has been known to have the highest amount of speculations.

 

[Darkurai]

Whoo, new theory that hasn't been beat to death! This one is from Twilight Princess.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Nice theory, lol, you dudes are intelligent I could never think of any of this stuff. Aside from the Deku butler and Gorman thing.

 

[Spire]

Know what's funny about that Kokiri = Monkeys theory? I may have been the first to introduce this theory to the widespread internet. One day a long time ago, I simply thought of it, so I went over to Zelda Wiki, posted it, then soon after, it started popping up everywhere. Funny how these things happen. Nevertheless, it's an awesome theory and always will be.

 

[Kingdom Come]

What's next?

Twinrova are gay sisters? and Ganondorf was created by magic?

Then are you gonna compare that to the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker?

 

[toon_marth]

Good theory, Dark. Unfortunately I don't support the idea of humans "evolving" into monkeys.

edit @ kingdom come: Um, no. If you don't like the theories, don't post about them. Stop trolling.

 

[Kingdom Come]

Good theory, Dark. Unfortunately I don't support the idea of humans "evolving" into monkeys.

edit @ kingdom come: Um, no. If you don't like the theories, don't post about them. Stop trolling.

STFU and GTFO I was talking to Spire because he said he came up with it first. Get your facts straight!

EDIT: and seriously I do believe Ganon can be compared to Anakin. Being born by the midichlorians and all. I mean there is only one Gerudo man every 100 years amirite?

 

[Spire]

I've compared Zelda to Star Wars before. There's a lot that can be said in the realm. But Kingdom Come, let's not get testy. No "STFU" and "GTFO", let's be friendly here It's understandable why toon_marth would have accused you of trolling, but he's merely trying to keep the place clean too.

If you want to really go into detail about the Zelda/Star Wars relationship, you can post about it in the General Zelda Discussion Thread, or if you have enough worthwhile information, make a theoretical thread about it.

 

[toon_marth]

STFU and GTFO I was talking to Spire because he said he came up with it first. Get your facts straight!

EDIT: and seriously I do believe Ganon can be compared to Anakin. Being born by the midichlorians and all. I mean there is only one Gerudo man every 100 years amirite?

Hey, next time don't come in here with <100 post count disrespecting (new) Mods like that. And about your Anakin thing... that may be something you got there. And I'm not sure how many years it is but the concept does bear a resemblance. But, if this is true, wouldn't we have seen another Gerudo man over the whole series by now? I mean, it's the same Ganon/dorf the whole time, right?

edit: There's Spire with another post while I was replying! Let's move your proposal to GZD.

 

[XACE-K]

Liek OMG reverse evolution. That's a very good theory Darkurai because it's possible of happening. Although couldn't the monkeys in MM move to Hyrule from Terminia? They do look the same but they don't carry the Kokiri symbol.

 

[Spire]

Actually, I don't think it's a matter of reverse evolution but rather, "spiritual form changing".

I see the Kokiri as forest spirits that take the form best suitable for a future Link. They do not know it, but the energies of the forest do, as provided by the Goddesses. Their true essence are probably unnamed as of now, and the Kokiri are simply the adopted child forms so that young Link would feel akin with them and be raised properly. The Koroks took the form that they did because of the atmospheric change in the world - so that they could float and fly in the wind currents. The monkey forms were assumed so that the spirits could live deep and secluded in the forest within the remains of the Great Deku Tree. There was no longer a deity to watch over them, so they took to these forms so their agility and natural acrobatics* would favor their new lifestyle.

Also, Link could not have passed through the Forest Temple without them. Could he have with the Kokiri? No, because they're pretty worthless. The Kokiri and fairies were a surrogate family to Link, with the Great Deku Tree being the parental figure. With him gone, they would lose order and natural become monkeys.

 

[toon_marth]

Actually, I don't think it's a matter of reverse evolution as it is "spiritual form changing".

I see the Kokiri as forest spirits that take the form best suitable for a future Link. They do not know it, but the energies of the forest do, as provided by the Goddesses. Their true essence are probably unnamed as of now, and the Kokiri are simply the adopted child forms so that young Link would feel akin with them and be raised properly. The Koroks took the form that they did because of the atmospheric change in the world - so that they could float and fly in the wind currents. The monkey forms were assumed so that the spirits could live deep and secluded in the forest within the remains of the Great Deku Tree. There was no longer a deity to watch over them, so they took to these forms so their agility and natural acrobats would favor their new lifestyle.

Also, Link could not have passed through the Forest Temple without them. Could he have with the Kokiri? No, because they're pretty worthless. The Kokiri and fairies were a surrogate family to Link, with the Great Deku Tree being the parental figure. With him gone, they would lose order and natural become monkeys.

I like this theory. As a person opposed to evolution entirely, even in the Zelda World, I like this as an alternative. The goddesses seem to help Link in the most subtle, and most intuitive ways, and I think that's one of the things I like best about this theory.

 

[Clownbot]

I've compared Zelda to Star Wars before. There's a lot that can be said in the realm. But Kingdom Come, let's not get testy. No "STFU" and "GTFO", let's be friendly here It's understandable why toon_marth would have accused you of trolling, but he's merely trying to keep the place clean too.

If you want to really go into detail about the Zelda/Star Wars relationship, you can post about it in the General Zelda Discussion Thread, or if you have enough worthwhile information, make a theoretical thread about it.

Hey, hey, Spire, you're a mod now.

ban him

Anyhoo, I like this theory. It's kind of been worn before (not beaten to death, but many find it believable). I'd consider it almost canonical.

 

[Terra~]

Awesome theories up until now :O!

Truly great stuff =)!

 

[Ochobobo]

I've heard this monkey thing before, but it did get me thinking on why exactly it happened. I never really realized that there is no Deku Tree in the Child Timeline. It died in the beginning and was only reborn in the Adult Timeline.

Or did it? Didn't the Deku Tree Sprout say the only thing keeping it from sprouting was Ganon's evil? If Ganon was imprisoned in the Twilight Realm 7 years earlier in the Child Timeline, wouldn't he be able to grow freely?

 

[Spire]

I've heard this monkey thing before, but it did get me thinking on why exactly it happened. I never really realized that there is no Deku Tree in the Child Timeline. It died in the beginning and was only reborn in the Adult Timeline.

Or did it? Didn't the Deku Tree Sprout say the only thing keeping it from sprouting was Ganon's evil? If Ganon was imprisoned in the Twilight Realm 7 years earlier in the Child Timeline, wouldn't he be able to grow freely?

If my memory serves me correctly, there was no sprout when you were a child. He appeared when you were an adult after beating the Forest Temple.

Therefore, he only appeared in the Adult Timeline, because through fate, that world was going to need a Deku Tree to spread forests across the ocean to bring islands together to form a new world. Hyrule in the Child Timeline did not need a Deku Tree, so a) the first one died, and b) another was not born.

 

[Shade613]

The monkey theory is an intresting thought but I doubt the kokiri would actually die if they left the forest because in WW the koroks leave and in OoT there is person in castle town that wants to buy things from you and when you pull out the master sword he doesn't change so he might be a kokiri.(he is a child during both child and adult parts of the game) I think the deku tree is just a commie and wants compleate and total control of hyrule.

 

[Clownbot]

The monkey theory is an intresting thought but I doubt the kokiri would actually die if they left the forest because in WW the koroks leave and in OoT there is person in castle town that wants to buy things from you and when you pull out the master sword he doesn't change so he might be a kokiri.(he is a child during both child and adult parts of the game) I think the deku tree is just a commie and wants compleate and total control of hyrule.

Uh.... Wouldn't it make sense (if the Deku Sprout from OoT is the tree in WW) that the forest area in WW is actually where OoT's forest area used to be?

Even so, if the Kokiri evolved.... I don't think leaving the woods would be too much of a problem.

...Okay, I haven't posted this yet, so this isn't an edit, but I realized before I hit "enter" that the Koroks leave the forest to spread seeds about the Great Sea, so the first sentence of my post is kind of moot, but I decided to leave it in for reference or something.

 

[Spire]

Well some more solid evidence would have been to simply point out that in the credits for OoT, some Kokiri are seen dancing among the others at Lon Lon.

The Great Deku Tree might have warned them of death upon leaving the forest so that:
a) they would stay to serve as Link's kin
b) if they actually left, there might be a chance that they would transform into something else, like the Skull Kids in the Lost Woods.

 

[Clownbot]

Well some more solid evidence would have been to simply point out that in the credits for OoT, some Kokiri are seen dancing among the others at Lon Lon.

The Great Deku Tree might have warned them of death upon leaving the forest so that:
a) they would stay to serve as Link's kin
b) if they actually left, there might be a chance that they would transform into something else, like the Skull Kids in the Lost Woods.

Dang, how could I have forgotten about something from such an epic ending scene?

This seems about right with that being pointed out, though.

 

[Ochobobo]

If my memory serves me correctly, there was no sprout when you were a child. He appeared when you were an adult after beating the Forest Temple.

Therefore, he only appeared in the Adult Timeline, because through fate, that world was going to need a Deku Tree to spread forests across the ocean to bring islands together to form a new world. Hyrule in the Child Timeline did not need a Deku Tree, so a) the first one died, and b) another was not born.

Yeah but I'm wondering why wouldn't it appear 7 years later, or around then, in the Child Timeline, just as it did in the Adult Timeline.

Adult Link needed to beat the Forest temple, but that was only because of Ganondorf. If Ganondorf had no such influence at that point in the Child Timeline then there shouldn't be anything stopping a sprout from appearing then.