Anime Mafia!: Moved To dGames from LoD (Guess who won!)

[Virgilijus]

I'm going to try to catch up with the thread today during my lunch break. Try being the operative word.

 

[Vyse]

Chibo, attempting to bait a reaction from Mafia by saying what you did in post #223 was just a bad idea. I really don't see the mafia being foolish enough to jump on it and the only person who did, Xiivi, was going through the post histories of every person in this game, of course he was going to analyse and bring up what you posted.

That being said, Xiivi's also chosen to ignore your insinuating that he is mafia and not address it in any of his subsequent posts. But that's something that's worrying me about Xiivi at the moment. Both you (Chibo) and I have made posts that should have garnered a reaction from Xiivi in some shape or form, but he hasn't really responded to anything the past few days.

And then, ironically, you tell people to just post more?
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8703742&postcount=262

This is just me looking at the possibilities, so it's to Xiivi and Chibo to prove why either of them shouldn't be lynched

 

[CT Chia]

I still don't see why trying to bait reactions from mafia is a bad thing... That's the whole point of the game, especially in D1 since we have little to play off of. If no one catches the bait, then no one does. Though I do find it interesting how it was ignored for a bit (as I would think many would do seeing it as just a joke) then Xivii jumps on it. Couple that with the other Xivii reasons you gave :/

I still don't see how I role fished exactly. Bottom line, we all knew Xivii was attracting a lot of attention. We wondered why. People said before that things along the line of would he do that if he was mafia iirc. I simply analyzed the situation. How is trying to decipher situations a scumtell?

~lol vyse do u change ur avatar with like every reply in here to match the emotion of ur post?

 

[Crimson King]

I still don't see why trying to bait reactions from mafia is a bad thing... That's the whole point of the game, especially in D1 since we have little to play off of. If no one catches the bait, then no one does. Though I do find it interesting how it was ignored for a bit (as I would think many would do seeing it as just a joke) then Xivii jumps on it. Couple that with the other Xivii reasons you gave :/

I still don't see how I role fished exactly. Bottom line, we all knew Xivii was attracting a lot of attention. We wondered why. People said before that things along the line of would he do that if he was mafia iirc. I simply analyzed the situation. How is trying to decipher situations a scumtell?

~lol vyse do u change ur avatar with like every reply in here to match the emotion of ur post?

Baiting reactions is a horrible way to catch mafia. Who's to say you won't get town by accident?

Also, deciphering situations is not a scumtell; deciphering them poorly, however, is.

 

[KevinM]

That defense was terrible you keep trying to defend yourself with poor arguments of, why is ____ a scumtell.

"i'm just analyzing etc"

For the most part townies don't have to hammer that detail home for me to believe them.

 

[Airgemini]

That being said, Xiivi's also chosen to ignore your insinuating that he is mafia and not address it in any of his subsequent posts.

Now that you bring that up, he didn't really respond to me thinking of him as a suspect along with SuSa and Kat in this post.

He just responded with:

Air:
203/204: These are good. It's nice that you're attempting to look into a different person than everyone else seems to be.

Which really didn't address anything specific despite the fact that he was in that list of suspicious canidates for me.

 

[Marc]

I've actually been getting bad vibes from Chibo all game, but couldn't really pinpoint the problem. So right now I support KevinM's offense.

 

[#HBC | marshy]

7th Vote Count

SuSa (2) - Xiivi
bowser king (1) - Crimson King
Kataefi (1) - airgemini
ChiboSempai (1) - KevinM
Not voting (8): SuSa, Virgilijus, Vyse, bowser king, Kataefi, ChiboSempai, Marc, Tom

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! There is currently no deadline

bowser king and Tom will be prodded if they fail to post by midnight EST

 

[Bowser King]

I still don't see why trying to bait reactions from mafia is a bad thing... That's the whole point of the game, especially in D1 since we have little to play off of. If no one catches the bait, then no one does. Though I do find it interesting how it was ignored for a bit (as I would think many would do seeing it as just a joke) then Xivii jumps on it. Couple that with the other Xivii reasons you gave :/

I still don't see how I role fished exactly. Bottom line, we all knew Xivii was attracting a lot of attention. We wondered why. People said before that things along the line of would he do that if he was mafia iirc. I simply analyzed the situation. How is trying to decipher situations a scumtell?

~lol vyse do u change ur avatar with like every reply in here to match the emotion of ur post?

I really doubt your going to catch any experienced mafia members with something like that. That brings up the point that if a beginner member were to make a reaction on it then it wouldn't help much since they could be town just trying to help out.

Anyway, sorry for coming in late. I was at a birthday from around 3 to 10 so that's the reason I wasn't on between that time.

 

[KevinM]

I've actually been getting bad vibes from Chibo all game, but couldn't really pinpoint the problem. So right now I support KevinM's offense.

 

[KevinM]

That's like green light a go go for me .

 

[Xiivi]

EBWOP the more I read your list of, if Xiivi was mafia, if Xiivi was independent, if Xiivi was townie, the more I see you as scum, that post just reeks of scum.

Eh, the reason I didn't bother suspecting him for it was because it's exactly how I would have expected over-analyze-everything-and-do-it-wrong-townie-Chibo to respond to Tom's question. I looked at 188 as just Chibo taking Tom's question in 186 into too much detail. Attempting to read Chibo is hard since he does a lot of scummy things in his normal play. I just try to measure whether his posts seem to have ill-intent behind them or not. I didn't really get a feeling of ill-intention from him and mostly just bad play until 223, which just threw me for some loops. His explanation in 245 made me feel a lot better because it comes off to me as bad play instead of ill-intention. However the part of his post that worries me is how he explains it was a trap for mafia, but doesn't drop a vote on his supposed mafia suspect.

Before I'm able to read and comment on everything else, about my post 223...

Obviously I must have had a reason for it.

The fact that it's such a dead obvious joke should really say something. Obviously we are not getting role changes, and yes it would be more than easy to ask Steel. The PMs he sent out to everyone were sent about an hour before my reply on the boards, so yes I knew what was going on. So in that case, why would anyone want to say something about it.

What people should have done is ignore it straight up. Does it offer anything to the game? No. Does it somewhat tell my role at all? No. Did multiple people ignore it? Yes, as they just should have imo.

However the reason for posting was to specifically see who would reply to such a garbage post and sort of use it as a reason to pin suspicion on me. I wanted to give an easy way for mafia to somewhat find an excuse to pin suspicion on me (since mafia would know that I'm not one of them), and the fact that Xiivi seems ready to jump down that path.

And if anyone thinks it was an honest slip up by me, you have greatly underestimated me. Also, if I just flat out revealed that I was mafia after that being said, don't you think Steel would have commented on it somehow?

Italics: You basically say you posted something that is suspicious in hopes that mafia are the ones looking to put suspicion on you and no one else is. The point is, townies don't know your alignment Chibo. So if you post something that is suspicious, 'garbage' or not, then town would jump on it if they are attempting to scum-hunt. Rats aren't the only ones that are going to try to grab cheese from a mousetrap. Little hamsters are going to want to try it too. Hopefully you see why "traps" aren't good in this game when you could actually...scumhunt.

Bold: No Chibo, he wouldn't. He'd sit back quietly and facepalm as you were lynched like a good mod would.

Even though you think I played a good game in Grammys, there are a lot of things I still don't understand. Especially knowing when and when not to look into the possibility of posting restrictions/abilities. Something you were quick to address before.

This is topical funnily enough, because of what Tom posted.

I would've felt a lot more comfortable if you had posted your giant reply in one post, rather than make a whole bunch. It's clear that something is up (or until you calm down with the multi-posting), but I don't really think it's worth pushing too much since posting a zillion miles an hour doesn't really seem to fit a mafia role to me. Easy to spot PR's I woulda thought would be more town oriented.

I want to try and look at other players first before hounding you (I'd still like to see SuSa respond to the request CK made to go through his perception of each player in the game though). Taking into consideration CK's advice about narrowing the scope of our focus on day 1. (I'll dig for bones later, but not tonight. Assessment is due in about 4 hours, I gotta focus on that when my assignment partner sends our work back to me).

Then why do you take the time in your next two posts [263/282] to shovel doubt on me when you're attempting to look at other players?

Chibo, attempting to bait a reaction from Mafia by saying what you did in post #223 was just a bad idea. I really don't see the mafia being foolish enough to jump on it and the only person who did, Xiivi, was going through the post histories of every person in this game, of course he was going to analyse and bring up what you posted.

That being said, Xiivi's also chosen to ignore your insinuating that he is mafia and not address it in any of his subsequent posts. But that's something that's worrying me about Xiivi at the moment. Both you (Chibo) and I have made posts that should have garnered a reaction from Xiivi in some shape or form, but he hasn't really responded to anything the past few days.

And then, ironically, you tell people to just post more?
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=8703742&postcount=262

This is just me looking at the possibilities, so it's to Xiivi and Chibo to prove why either of them shouldn't be lynched

Bold: The only post I've made since I posted my opinions was 262, which was me dodging a prod and giving people more time to actually look into other things instead of further centralizing this game by replying immediately everytime my name is mentioned. If you haven't noticed, I've posted in spurts, hopefully giving people time to actually discuss other things. (As cool as it would be to control the whole day, I think I'll pass.) However, the problem is that most people have only looked at my posting style and look for how they could make it seem scummy instead of why they actually think my posts are scummy.

Particularly Tom is guilty of this with post 241. If you noticed, he never responds to my questions in post 229. Really, he just tosses me an FoS because "I didn't listen to him and multiposted and because I have the most posts in the game due to it". It isn't until CK posts in 254 why Tom is so worrisome about the posting restriction he's speculating. Really all Tom does is open the door for someone else to walk through continually pointing out that multiposting is bad without actually stating why it worries him. CK's the one who ends up explaining Tom's worries. Really all I feel Tom has done is get overly jumpy when his inactivity was mentioned (235), and just mildly throw doubt one way or another and open doors for others to walk through (which many have, such as you Vyse, when you said there must be something up [246] with my posts) without committing too much of anything.

Italics: This is just dumb. You're looking at the possibilities, but think two players should "prove why we shouldn't lynch them". So if these two are in danger of being lynched, why aren't you voting either to pressure them?

Now that you bring that up, he didn't really respond to me thinking of him as a suspect along with SuSa and Kat in this post.

He just responded with:

Which really didn't address anything specific despite the fact that he was in that list of suspicious canidates for me.

What did you want addressed? In 203 you said I was a suspect and that I could be working with SuSa and Kat because the 3 of us conversed during the beginning of the game. You aren't saying that it is scummy that we talked in the beginning; you are saying scum has the possibility of doing this. That's cool and all, but what do you want me to do? Run in and say "OMG, no I wouldn't do that as scum, gez air!"?

A lot of the suspicion thrown at me has been nothing but theorizing and if, then scenarios. Not actual Xiivi is acting scummy statements. "Well SuSa is acting scummy, and Xiivi did make good points about him. Kat was there too. But we should all focus on the possibility of bussing before any of them even flip. Oh Xiivi possibly has a posting restriction, I think it could belong to scum, but I'm not going to say it and let someone else say it for me." Why do I need to respond people attempting to make connections like that?

Really, Kat is the one who has been jumpy about people connecting him to people. Which worries me that he's focusing too much on defending himself than looking into other players. (One of the problems with SuSa.) Which leads me to believe they're more concerned with their own survival than town winning.

Regardless, I want to see more activity from Tom & Chaco/Virg right now. SuSa has been inactive as well, but we've seen enough of him and I'd really just like to see him attempt to scumhunt and give some opinions on other players. BK/Marc, it'd be helpful if you two weighed in more.

 

[Xiivi]

EBWOP: It appears quotes auto-italic everything, so here's the "italics" parts so they actually make sense.

However the reason for posting was to specifically see who would reply to such a garbage post and sort of use it as a reason to pin suspicion on me. I wanted to give an easy way for mafia to somewhat find an excuse to pin suspicion on me (since mafia would know that I'm not one of them), and the fact that Xiivi seems ready to jump down that path.

Italics: You basically say you posted something that is suspicious in hopes that mafia are the ones looking to put suspicion on you and no one else is. The point is, townies don't know your alignment Chibo. So if you post something that is suspicious, 'garbage' or not, then town would jump on it if they are attempting to scum-hunt. Rats aren't the only ones that are going to try to grab cheese from a mousetrap. Little hamsters are going to want to try it too. Hopefully you see why "traps" aren't good in this game when you could actually...scumhunt.

This is just me looking at the possibilities, so it's to Xiivi and Chibo to prove why either of them shouldn't be lynched

Italics: This is just dumb. You're looking at the possibilities, but think two players should "prove why we shouldn't lynch them". So if these two are in danger of being lynched, why aren't you voting either to pressure them?

 

[Steel]

Activity Notice:

Xiivi - Today, 02:20 AM

KevinM - Yesterday, 06:31 PM

bowser king - Yesterday, 06:20 PM

Marc - Yesterday, 04:47 PM

airgemini - Yesterday, 04:23 PM

Crimson King - Yesterday, 12:08 PM

ChiboSempai - Yesterday, 11:18 AM

Vyse - Yesterday, 11:06 AM

Virgilijus - Yesterday, 10:24 AM

Kataefi - 10-25-2009, 03:55 PM (Will be prodded if no activity by 12 AM EST)

SuSa - 10-25-2009, 05:17 AM (Will be prodded if no activity by 12 AM EST)

Tom - 10-23-2009, 04:48 AM (Prodded last night)

 

[KevinM]

No one has any responses?

 

[Marc]

I wonder what Chibo has to say.

Also, Xiivi... would you be okay with not having the most posts at the end of the Day?

 

[Tom]

@#119: He mentions my number of posts being suspicious, and the rest of the post is simply game theory. I really don't like how it threw that bit out there, and really didn't go much anywhere about why it was something that concerned him. Really this just seemed like he was opening the door for someone else to walk through and take it somewhere.

@#143: He mentions finding multi-posting suspicious, and even mentions the number of posts. But doesn't really go anywhere with that, once again just opening the door. I understand his concerns about high activity, but I'd like to know why he brought up the multi-posting in general. Why is that a concern against just one long post containing lots of posts? Have you never seen that employed before? Is just suspicious, or just unexpected/different Tom?

Everything else Tom has posted I've been fine with, and I don't find these too suspicious or anything, just something to consider.

Tom, I am curious as to your suggestions of Xiivi as possibly having a post-count restriction. From the one game I can remember with this, it was for a serial killing indie. Is there any type of common situation with someone that has to post the most? If so, and you honestly believe it's bad, I believe we should test this by having Xiivi's post always be two under a few people. Again, I think this is only if we can find a precedence for indies having this restriction. If Xiivi is an indie, then his entire thing with SuSa could have been just his way of finding the strongest players to ally with later.

It's an anti-town play style. Making a bunch of posts in a row just makes things harder for everyone else. It makes cursory glances through the thread worthless, it makes the normally semi-reliable "who's posted" worthless as a gauge for inactivity (by pushing yourself up, and in late game, making everyone still alive look steadily inactive), and it just puts the spot-light straight on yourself.

In this instance, I would like to heavily emphasize how it works in combination with Xiivi's early debates with and pertaining to SuSa. Xiivi is the center of attention (very much purposefully by his own posting style, one which he was told by more than just me to stop), and discussion is stagnating, and when the Day nears its end, it will be all too tempting to fall back on what happened at the very beginning of the Day, and vote for SuSa mostly out of Xiivi's massive-post influence.

Concision is pro-town.

Specifically as a posting restriction, I have only ever seen "make the post posts per day" go to non-town roles. An example from SWF comes from Kirby King's SWFMafia, that Marshy the co-mod was in, so from that angle, it is not out of the question. An example from MS is the Spam Loving Viking, who is able to kill one of the three least active players in the game, and has been both pro-town and independent (vigilante and SK).

Not focused on the possibility of it as a posting restriction as much as I am simply emphasizing that it is totally negligent of him to make up almost all facets of the discussion.

Hey Chibo, you know who was my number one townie read before post 223? You.

223 is competing for worst post in this game (right behind the post where SuSa voted himself). In fact, I'm really surprised that SuSa, and only SuSa [228] has commented on it at this point. In fact: air, chaco, tom, CK; why did none of you comment on this post at all?

This post is just awful. Regardless of his alignment, I don't see a good reason for posting that post. If he is mafia, I don't see why he wouldn't just PM Steel that question. If he was town/indie I don't see why he would throw out a big WIFOM mafia claim. All this post did was make me doubt my opinion on Chibo and really mess with my head (mainly because I can both see him making that joke, and I can see him making that mistake).

Chibo, why did you open up this? You yourself said in posts 152/154, you jump on the chance to target BK for his RVS comment. It seemed like you were as unfound of the RVS as I am. One of the main reasons I hate RVS is because I've seen people say things they shouldn't have said and try to write it off as jokes in the RVS. You seemed like you really wanted activity [218/221/225], so why would you throw out an "I'm mafia" joke? This really disturbs me.

I was fine with your normal reckless Chibo play: attempting to clear someone [152], attempting to discuss power roles [180/188], etc... and have learned to not find it annoying from seeing your games. But 223 worries me greatly.

Bold: No Chibo, he wouldn't. He'd sit back quietly and facepalm as you were lynched like a good mod would.

This is persecuting ChiboSempai for an obvious joke, and then you admit to it being a joke, and still say that it disturbs you, even when admitting that you know its a joke totally nullifies anything you should be disturbed by. I hate this.

I would like to see you comment on what is actually noteworthy about ChiboSempai's posts, which is basically what Kevin jumped on when he replaced in, rather than a persecution over-analysis of a joke.

Bold: The only post I've made since I posted my opinions was 262, which was me dodging a prod and giving people more time to actually look into other things instead of further centralizing this game by replying immediately everytime my name is mentioned. If you haven't noticed, I've posted in spurts, hopefully giving people time to actually discuss other things. (As cool as it would be to control the whole day, I think I'll pass.) However, the problem is that most people have only looked at my posting style and look for how they could make it seem scummy instead of why they actually think my posts are scummy.

Particularly Tom is guilty of this with post 241. If you noticed, he never responds to my questions in post 229. Really, he just tosses me an FoS because "I didn't listen to him and multiposted and because I have the most posts in the game due to it". It isn't until CK posts in 254 why Tom is so worrisome about the posting restriction he's speculating. Really all Tom does is open the door for someone else to walk through continually pointing out that multiposting is bad without actually stating why it worries him. CK's the one who ends up explaining Tom's worries. Really all I feel Tom has done is get overly jumpy when his inactivity was mentioned (235), and just mildly throw doubt one way or another and open doors for others to walk through (which many have, such as you Vyse, when you said there must be something up [246] with my posts) without committing too much of anything.

1) I hadn't responded yet to anything, not simply what you said.

2) If clicking "multi-quote" on my recent posts in SFM and then clicking "quote these posts as well" in this thread is overly jumpy, then you caught me - I'm a frog. A frog with big-ass legs who loves to jump.

@KevinM: I'd like to see how Chibo responds to what you said, but I'm completely willing to throw my vote behind yours to get some steam in this engine. Marc seems to know what to do, but refuses to actually put pressure down.

vote: ChiboSempai

I'm curious to see what Virgilijus brings to the table in his read, as it hopefully pushes the game forward like KevinM's read did.

 

[KevinM]

Tom do you think Xiivi is scum or are you just upset with his playstyle?

 

[Virgilijus]

I'm halfway through. Going to try to get it all done tomorrow morning.

 

[CT Chia]

I wonder what Chibo has to say.

Also, Xiivi... would you be okay with not having the most posts at the end of the Day?

Well, I can't say that it backfired, as my post did garner a lot of posts about it and reactions that I can read off of. People just don't agree with me play style I suppose. This is only like my 3rd mafia game, I'm still developing new tricks and I personally like trying to bait scum or trick them into getting themselves into certain situations. People say scumhunt, but that's exactly what I'm doing. Whether or not I do it differently than someone else doesn't change anything. If anything having different styles of scumhunting is beneficial to the town having a multi pronged attack all garnering reads for the town to use.

~Reply to Kevin's big post now

 

[KevinM]

I want to call BS on the fact that this is only your 3rd mafia game, as you're also a regular player on Mafia Scum, I read your games there too.

The rest of your post is just an appeal to emotion. "I am just scumhunting differently then you guys you can't be upset at me for that just because its different"

I like my vote.

 

[CT Chia]

Liking to type doesn't have anything to do with typing multiple paragraphs about being called out on a stupid post. Anyways.

What I meant was that sure what I said could be condensed easily, but I overtyped. I constantly do. I get caught up in typing.

Trying to figure out how it works after you should have realized talking about how the role was bad. That's one instance.

I realize that trying to find out who the double voter is is bad, but I don't see how it was bad to find out how it works. Afterall, for town to take advantage of the power, we would need to deduce how the double vote thing works since the double voter can't straight up tell us themselves as that would involve role claiming, which a power role needs to stay away from.

The first part is absolutely terrible. You gave some wishy washy idea on how you think certain roles would play as if thats the only way they play. For the newer players thats a terrible idea because if a scum was talking a lot at this point and they listened to your post then the newer players would assume there is no way they could be scum. Why else would they post a lot.

As for the second part, it's just you trying to justify talking about a role that benefits town and is hidden so far. Why would you want to reveal how it works, would you want mafia to have a better chance at killing the person responsible. Because that's all you're doing with your speculation. Because what do we benefit as town by knowing how it works? If the vote is town aligned like it most likely would be, they can follow proper town judgment and we shouldn't have to worry about it beyond that.

Why is this bad. There was a situation at hand (the Xiivi Susa thing), people said Xiivi was attracting unneeded attention, and I wondered why. I laid out the options and tried to connect a possible role to wondering if and why Xiivi would be cool with all of the attention.

Scum doesn't want to get lynched, but neither does town?

Good post.

Also you're basically saying that you should take all of the first 4 pages of arguments with a grain of salt.

Why? A lot of discussion was generated from that.

I honestly at this point have NO idea how Xiivi and Chaco said they have town reads off of you.

You're just flat out digging the bottom of the barrel to find reasons to hate my posts now. I don't see anything wrong with what I said. Is it not true? And I certainly didn't say take it with a grain of salt. If that was the case then I wouldn't have made the analysis on what role could possibly be ok with additional attention in connection with Xiivi per my last post that you quoted and picked apart.

Thanks for giving us a gigantic piece of WIFOM for later, when you can say.

IF I WAS MAFIA WOULD I SAY THIS HURR DA DURR.

I say we lynch you now and we never have to deal with that WIFOM, especially if you think the best play for town is fishing for roles and how they work while making blanket statements on how alignments should play.

Case and point I'm voting for you.

It's pretty sad that you're ready to call that a gigantic piece of WIFOM even after I stated exactly why I said it, and the full nature of it is practically meaningless. I did it to bait reactions, which I got. Fine and dandy. Beyond that, since the case is essentially over, it would be no different if you just pretended I never said that. I honestly don't see what's the big deal about it. A good amount of people here skipped over it like it was no big deal, yet I'm shocked that a certain few here are freicken raging over it.

 

[CT Chia]

I want to call BS on the fact that this is only your 3rd mafia game, as you're also a regular player on Mafia Scum, I read your games there too.

The rest of your post is just an appeal to emotion. "I am just scumhunting differently then you guys you can't be upset at me for that just because its different"

I like my vote.

I'm sorry, my mistake, it's my 4th. My 3rd game is currently in Day 3. I was mistaken thinking that prior to this 2 games have completed.

1st - Grammys Mafia (SWF) /Done
2nd - Bloodlust Mafia (MS) /Done
3rd - Crayola Catastrophe (MS) /Day 3
4th - Anime Mafia (SWF) /Day 1
5th - Mafia Tournament Sleepover (SWF) /Day 1

 

[Marc]

The point remains that you're not exactly "new", basically rendering that argument useless.

 

[Bowser King]

A good amount of people here skipped over it like it was no big deal, yet I'm shocked that a certain few here are freicken raging over it.

Just because some people over looked it doesn't make the post any better. Also, more people found your post to be bad then the other way around so I don't see where your getting "a good amount of people" and "a certain few" from.

 

[Tom]

Tom do you think Xiivi is scum or are you just upset with his playstyle?

Former. If I weren't voting Chibo, I would be voting Xiivi.

 

[SuSa]

I've been lurking to get some other discussion flowing, but wow....

Not sure if it's me being blind, so I'll go back and check. But I would like to see more from Marc.

I'd like to hear more thoughts on Chibo's "joke" post. It only stood out to me as "lol if I was Mafia I'd never do that, so there is no way I'm Mafia".

With what's been stated the past two pages along with me already having suspicions of Chibo.

Vote:ChiboSempai

CK's request:
1. SuSa - Well, it's me. Hiya. :3
2. Crimson King - I like how he's playing, but haven't seen a TON of him to be sure.
3. Virgilijus - He's playing catchup, so nothing to comment on yet.
4. Vyse - Much like CK, I like how he's playing. I've seen a bit more of him and he doesn't come off as scummy to me.
5. Airgemini - Not really liking recent playing
6. Bowser King - Would like to see more of. Either that or I'm blind.
7. Xiivi - Really, really needs to spot posting multiple posts. Make one large one, you don't need 5-6 posts. Seriously, listen to people and slow the **** down. Besides how you post, I haven't seen anything scummy in your posts. Only a bit suspicious of you.
8. Kataefi - Only from the beginning have I gotten to see a lot of you. I think I'm blind though, but your justifications seemed well enough. I don't see what Air has against you.... <_<
9. ChiboSempai - My vote earlier tells how I feel
10. KevinM - Just like Virg. I'll wait and see.
11. Marc - I think you are the one I've seen the least of. I'll try and go back and find your posts.
12. Tom - I can't even make a comment. I think I'm ****ing up names now. IIRC I miscalled you on something stupid, which was quickly cleared up (my bad), and you haven't done anything to draw my attention to you.

From my list you should be able to tell the 3 I think most scummy.

 

[Steel]

8th Vote Count

ChiboSempai (3) - KevinM, Tom, SuSa
SuSa (2) - Xiivi
bowser king (1) - Crimson King
Kataefi (1) - airgemini
Not voting (6): Virgilijus, Vyse, bowser king, Kataefi, ChiboSempai, Marc

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch! There is currently no deadline.

 

[KevinM]

Susa did you even read the main reason Chibo is defending himself is because of me, so how can you say I'm still trying to catchup.

How am I the exact same thing as Virg?

 

[KevinM]

Yeah actually I'm convinced you haven't read up on the thread.

 

[SuSa]

You've only been around a really short while. You're a replacement. I haven't really had much to gauge you on other then your attacks on chibo, which I'm still reading over carefully (reading it for approaching the 3rd time)

 

[KevinM]

Then don't be misleading by saying I'm still catching up on the thread.

 

[SuSa]

When did I ever say that?

"Just like Virg. I'll wait and see"

"Just like Virgilijus, I'll wait and see"

 

[KevinM]

Never mind I don't feel like cluttering up the thread debating semantics.

 

[CT Chia]

I've been lurking to get some other discussion flowing, but wow....

Not sure if it's me being blind, so I'll go back and check. But I would like to see more from Marc.

I'd like to hear more thoughts on Chibo's "joke" post. It only stood out to me as "lol if I was Mafia I'd never do that, so there is no way I'm Mafia".

With what's been stated the past two pages along with me already having suspicions of Chibo.

Vote:ChiboSempai

CK's request:
1. SuSa - Well, it's me. Hiya. :3
2. Crimson King - I like how he's playing, but haven't seen a TON of him to be sure.
3. Virgilijus - He's playing catchup, so nothing to comment on yet.
4. Vyse - Much like CK, I like how he's playing. I've seen a bit more of him and he doesn't come off as scummy to me.
5. Airgemini - Not really liking recent playing
6. Bowser King - Would like to see more of. Either that or I'm blind.
7. Xiivi - Really, really needs to spot posting multiple posts. Make one large one, you don't need 5-6 posts. Seriously, listen to people and slow the **** down. Besides how you post, I haven't seen anything scummy in your posts. Only a bit suspicious of you.
8. Kataefi - Only from the beginning have I gotten to see a lot of you. I think I'm blind though, but your justifications seemed well enough. I don't see what Air has against you.... <_<
9. ChiboSempai - My vote earlier tells how I feel
10. KevinM - Just like Virg. I'll wait and see.
11. Marc - I think you are the one I've seen the least of. I'll try and go back and find your posts.
12. Tom - I can't even make a comment. I think I'm ****ing up names now. IIRC I miscalled you on something stupid, which was quickly cleared up (my bad), and you haven't done anything to draw my attention to you.

From my list you should be able to tell the 3 I think most scummy.

Not to be a OMGUS vote,

Vote: Susa

I would have voted you from this whether or now you voted me, this post is just awful.

First of all, this is your first post in over 3 and a half days, which your post 3.5 days ago hardly had anything in it to really make it count.

You offer your insight on everyone here, which is great by all means, but it would be no different if you said nothing at all. 95% of this post is 'maybe I'm blind' or 'I'd like to see more of him' or 'I like how he's playing.'

Everything you have said is so painfully dull and devoit of any actual work in this game. Every statement is so generalized, that the closest thing to have content is your analysis on Xiivi saying he could combine his posts into one big one, something you could say by literally scanning pages and seeing a lot of posts from him. If you like how someone is playing, say why you like their style. If you think you're blind on something, go back and read more on that person.

Additionally, with what Kevin pointed out, it seems like you aren't even in touch with the game. You have no comment on Kevin and saying he's "playing catchup" despite him being involved in the big thing with me in the last 2 pages which you referrenced at the top part of your post.

As for the first part of your post...
You say you want to hear more about my "joke post," but then you go ahead and vote me. Wouldn't it be more rational to hear what you want, then determine if it warrants a post? You're only reasoning you provide for not liking it is "lol if I was Mafia I'd never do that, so there is no way I'm Mafia" which is almost exactly what Kevin said.

None of this post is actually you. You're compeltely out of touch with the game, whether it's on purpose or not. You're simply copying what other people think and giving incredibly bland analysis' on players with no real content on players at all. This post is so overly generic that it literally means nothing. As a big 3.5 day catch up post, this is awful.

 

[SuSa]

I haven't been posting, because I was kindly told to "shut the **** up, SuSa". Also school+moving? Mean much?

I also never said he was playing catchup. When I abbreviated Virg's. name I ended it with a period and continued my sentence. I was simply stating I didn't have much to comment on because his only posts are the past 2 pages.

Would you rather me replace "I like how he's playing, doesn't seem scummy" with "Townie"?

Also I want to hear more from others. I've already heard what you have to say about it.

 

[Kataefi]

Lots of stuff has happened here! Well I think I'm getting better vibes from Xiivi... I just feel he's very curious about everything, always asking questions, poking people and encouraging everyone to say something.

BUT...

Kat is the one who has been jumpy about people connecting him to people.

I was jumpy many a post ago because there weren't meant to be any connections in the first place. This is all that I wanted to make clear. I also have a vote which I think is unfair on me so of course I want to defend myself. I still don't get air's vote on me and I'd prefer it if he unvoted me please.

Which leads me to believe they're more concerned with their own survival than town winning.

I don't really understand this... surely as a townie I'd want to be as alive as possible so I can live longer in the pursuit for mafia. Isn't that the point? If I didn't do a good job defending myself from votes... wouldn't I die from a lynch easily and mafia get closer to winning?

If you mean that I haven't been focused as much on other players, I did give a bit more here. Though I see what you're saying I guess... I don't really know what to make of Chibo right now - I found his joke post really silly for the reasons I gave, and I think he hasn't really given a good case against the accusations thrown at him. I also never knew he joined that other mafia website, so yeah.... I bet he's secretly reeeeally good at playing the game.

Though that doesn't take my mind off you're sudden posting outburst and obsessive finger-pointing at Susa so early in the game, and I definitely am no fan of Susa's random weird episode early on with all the fancy overthinking.

Beyond that, since the case is essentially over, it would be no different if you just pretended I never said that. I honestly don't see what's the big deal about it. A good amount of people here skipped over it like it was no big deal, yet I'm shocked that a certain few here are freicken raging over it.

I'm not too keen on this post for some reason. Especially the underlined part. I get the feeling your joke post made wasn't as black and white as simply you baiting and someone taking the bait. You could be mafia joking about being mafia so people would turn around and think "surely he wouldn't dare say such a thing... oh he must be town then..." See what I'm saying?

The fact you want people to brush it off like it never happened doesn't help things either.

8. Kataefi - Only from the beginning have I gotten to see a lot of you. I think I'm blind though, but your justifications seemed well enough. I don't see what Air has against you.... <_<

Firstly I agree with the air thing... I don't know either. What do you mean by being blind? Blind to what?

 

[CT Chia]

I haven't been posting, because I was kindly told to "shut the **** up, SuSa". Also school+moving? Mean much?

I also never said he was playing catchup. When I abbreviated Virg's. name I ended it with a period and continued my sentence. I was simply stating I didn't have much to comment on because his only posts are the past 2 pages.

Would you rather me replace "I like how he's playing, doesn't seem scummy" with "Townie"?

Also I want to hear more from others. I've already heard what you have to say about it.

So if someone tells you to stop posting in a mafia, you really just stop posting for 3 and a half days and get a prod? Wow.

Don't pull the school and moving johns.
Looking at your post history shows that you posted:
26 times yesterday
25 times on 10/26
and 25 times on 10/25

 

[SuSa]

I haven't seen a ton from you recently, but I felt as if I had when I was reading my way on up to Page 22. I should have put that into two sentences.

I'm going to go take a nap. :/

 

[SuSa]

So if someone tells you to stop posting in a mafia, you really just stop posting for 3 and a half days and get a prod? Wow.

Don't pull the school and moving johns.
Looking at your post history shows that you posted:
26 times yesterday
25 times on 10/26
and 25 times on 10/25

Want to go read my blog? I'm moving to my grandmas, have to withdraw from school, pack my ****, and hopefully I'll have internet when I move to even log on. I've received two prods, which remind me to even visit the LoD for this thread. I have more **** on my mind then "Oh, did I post in the Mafia game today?"

I haven't been posting nearly as much as I have at the beginning of the game, and even after being told to shut up I've posted even less then shortly after that because now I'm moving.

Most of my posts are spam in social threads. Or minor posts here and there.