That was actually pretty funny.
Still down with an air lynch at this point.
Still down with an air lynch at this point.
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Anime Mafia!: Moved To dGames from LoD (Guess who won!)
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Because I knew someone like you would jump on such an obvious WIFOM remark like Mario to a Goomba.
I'm experienced enough to know claims like those have no bearing. Just testing the waters to see how anxious scum may be to plant those seeds of doubt.
Not to say you are scum, but it isn't to say you aren't.
14th Vote Count
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Kataefi (1) - airgemini
bowser king (4) - ChiboSempai, Omni, Xiivi
Omni (1) - KevinM
airgemini (1) - McFox
Not voting (6): Vyse, Kataefi, Marc, Tom, Crimson King, bowser king
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
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Kataefi (1) - airgemini
bowser king (4) - ChiboSempai, Omni, Xiivi
Omni (1) - KevinM
airgemini (1) - McFox
Not voting (6): Vyse, Kataefi, Marc, Tom, Crimson King, bowser king
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With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
CT Chia
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So Omni did you read the game yet up to the point where you made Post 438?
(meaning had you read the game yet when you made that post not did you read up to that yet)
(meaning had you read the game yet when you made that post not did you read up to that yet)
nope. just got finish reading Phoenix Wright Mafia so i'll read this tomorrow. only thing i remember is Susa and Xiivi acting pretty silly in the beginning. i'll explain more when i catch up
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
*Waits for everyone to jump on Omni's case, put him at L-1, and force him to roleclaim*
He's saying this because that exact situation happened to him. You'll see on your readthrough.
Whatever doubts I had are moot because he is a doublevoter. Upon further consideration, it would be extremely unbalanced for Mafia to have that ability.
I have a test tomorrow, but I'll make sure to vote and post reasoning before the deadline.
As Tom pointed out though, there is still a chance he's an indy. And any non-town lynch is good with me.
man i'm on page 6 and this is incredibly stupid. people all over the place parroting and repeating and saying crazy things. this is really awful to read. does any have spark notes or a brief summary for me instead
Well I replaced in fairly recently too. If you want to read my summary of everything up until I replaced, this is it.
Why do you deserve to have a summary eff that.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Yea Omni, I literally did almost the exact same thing with saying a stupid little joke that people took as WIFOM and it got my 6 votes and was forced to claim and expose a town power role for the mafia to eat up thx to bowserking
To be fair to those players, your "defense" was awful. You really should've just said it was a joke, instead of trying to play it as a clever trap to catch mafia.
I've stopped reading Chibo's posts where he tries to through himself off as really innocent or really smart because he has to realize that half the time his plays are just bad.
chibo wtf you don't joke about being mafia. that's definitely not the same as my wifom claim.
uhm, what do you guys want me to say? this **** is crazy. it's hard to get tells when a fraction of the plays are just bad, a fraction are people who parrot, a fraction of people who are town but suck at scumhunting, etc. the range of experience levels are high which makes this really damn annoying since im constantly determining if something is dumb or scum.
anyway, i'm down for lynching marc, air, or hilt.
uhm, what do you guys want me to say? this **** is crazy. it's hard to get tells when a fraction of the plays are just bad, a fraction are people who parrot, a fraction of people who are town but suck at scumhunting, etc. the range of experience levels are high which makes this really damn annoying since im constantly determining if something is dumb or scum.
anyway, i'm down for lynching marc, air, or hilt.
McFox: True, but if Chibo's either town or independent I'd rather go with someone who can actually be scum. Someone like SuSa who's is either very newbish or very scum would be a better choice IMO.
Omni: Why?
Omni: Why?
I just disliked your play early and midgame. It's partially due to your play style but you don't like to get your shoes dirty. Your first post into the game (#112) was so unhelpful and you were parroting parrots. Basically, I've noticed you attempt to stay very neutral throughout the game and only stating obvious deductions unlike players like Tom and CK who seem to actively scumhunt.
Surprised that you now want to go after Susa. It seems obvious that the dude was just anxious to play Mafia but just really sucked at playing. No way I'd let my scum buddy make an ass out of himself for 4 pages without regulating his posts and/or helping him make wiser decisions.
vote: Marc
But yeah, that's why. You wreak of ambiguity.
Surprised that you now want to go after Susa. It seems obvious that the dude was just anxious to play Mafia but just really sucked at playing. No way I'd let my scum buddy make an ass out of himself for 4 pages without regulating his posts and/or helping him make wiser decisions.
vote: Marc
But yeah, that's why. You wreak of ambiguity.
That was my argument against voting SuSa earlier too, and it's still somewhat valid (which is why I didn't put down a vote). I'm not going after him per se, it's just that if it comes down to lynching either him or Chibo, I'd probably go with him. It's true that I don't like to get my shoes dirty, but I've repeatedly stated I lack time to contribute in a more meaningful way right now. You also know I'm not a parrot for parroting's sake, but why should I lie if I agree about something? I got bad vibes from Chibo, moreso than in an earlier game, so I agreed to Kevin's pointing that out. I'm not too suspicious of CK, so I didn't support that.
It's reassuring that it's Mr. Genie who suspects me, though. =p
It's reassuring that it's Mr. Genie who suspects me, though. =p
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@Omni: While I really appreciate you coming in, do not think that you are cleared at all for me. SuSa did some pretty stupid stuff, so I'll be watching you closely to see if there is a consistency there. As of now though, thank you for replacing so late into Day 1.
While in the Epic Mafia link that Tom posted, double voting was given to a side-changing indie. However, mafia scum has this to say: http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Doublevoter giving the role a pro-town slant. I'd be will to say wait on him for investigations tonight to turn up anything. Also, with SuSa gone, I think we should let Omni post a bit before saying he should be lynched.
Yeah, I'm in no rush to vote.
FoS CK
Why would we have anyone investigate Chibo when there are plenty of other suspicious players available to be investigated
Why would we have anyone investigate Chibo when there are plenty of other suspicious players available to be investigated
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Kevin, learn to ****ing read. I would RATHER we investigate Chibo before pushing a lynch since he's rather ambiguous in his usefulness. In other words, I DON'T WANT TO BOTHER WASTING THE TIME UNTIL DEADLINE FIGURING OUT IF CHIBO IS TOWN OR INDIE. That's what I was responding to.
Your grabbing at straws as much as Airgemini now. I'd almost start calling you a lyncher because nearly every post has been directed at me and how supposedly suspicious I am, when he's just twisting what is there to sound suspicious.
Since I haven't really done it yet, the people I feel most suspicious are Kevin, Air, and Omni just via SuSa.
Kevin's interest in my lynch changed from random attempted bandwagoning to trying to actually halt discussion to place suspicion on me, when there isn't anything to find suspicious as he admitted to misreading. At the moment, I cannot tell if he is scum trying to appear pro-town as possible and going for the more active players (where good mafia can hide) or if he's just actually trying to change the norm. I actually hope it is the latter just because I do not like how many people are already clearing me so soundly. Day 1 will have no extremes; unless you are mafia or in a masonry, you shouldn't be confident of anyone. I feel that is more newbie town players, but I like the fact that Kevin is actually questioning ****. Pressure will help later if he can be cleared.
Air is trying hard, and like with Omni, while I appreciate that, I find he is either aiming in the wrong directions and grasping for anything, which I feel is really counter-intuitive to helping town. I like the idea of probing everyone, but there needs to be sound arguments that will actually answer some good questions.
Finally, Omni. Unfortunately, SuSa left a bad taste in my mouth, and considering he was reading A LOT of Mafia Scum, which talks about bad argument examples, and yet he had a large WIFOM post or two. I'll reserve judgement on Omni once he posts.
As of now, Kevin and Air seem to be the most suspicious of my list, and I'm going with air for a few reasons. Namely, I hate voting for someone who I feel has a good playstyle should they be town. Kevin is going to be a viable asset as a townie. Secondly, Air just hasn't made any substantial plays. Kataefi was a nice start, but I think he ignored the fact that Kata, like everyone else does not want attention drawn to them needlessly.
Vote: Airgemini.
Activity Notice:
Crimson King - Yesterday, 11:39 PM
KevinM - Yesterday, 09:27 PM
Marc - Yesterday, 04:17 PM
Omni - Yesterday, 03:27 PM
Mcfox - Yesterday, 02:16 PM
ChiboSempai - Yesterday, 02:09 PM
airgemini - 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM
Tom - 11-04-2009, 07:57 PM
bowser king - 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM
Xiivi - 11-04-2009, 04:44 AM
Kataefi - 11-03-2009, 10:36 AM (PROD)
Vyse - 11-03-2009, 12:14 AM (Given another 24 hours due to V/LA)
Crimson King - Yesterday, 11:39 PM
KevinM - Yesterday, 09:27 PM
Marc - Yesterday, 04:17 PM
Omni - Yesterday, 03:27 PM
Mcfox - Yesterday, 02:16 PM
ChiboSempai - Yesterday, 02:09 PM
airgemini - 11-04-2009, 09:02 PM
Tom - 11-04-2009, 07:57 PM
bowser king - 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM
Xiivi - 11-04-2009, 04:44 AM
Kataefi - 11-03-2009, 10:36 AM (PROD)
Vyse - 11-03-2009, 12:14 AM (Given another 24 hours due to V/LA)
Quick post to say I'm still here and tonight my time I'll respond to chibo, xiivi and CK so thanks for answering my questions and I'll catchup with everything. I've been really in and out of swf with small posts recently, going home for the week so things have been busy I'm sorry.
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Omni why me?
And I think your reason for voting me, CK is pretty stupid.
That's not really a good reason and I fail to see how I appear suspicious at all.
And I think your reason for voting me, CK is pretty stupid.
That's not really a good reason and I fail to see how I appear suspicious at all.
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I'll be busy tonight, but I'll go and show the suspicious posts.
Alright cool I can make a bit of a longer post now:
Chibo I thought you were hasty to place a vote on SuSa that early in the game. 90% of the players hadn't even posted anything >_> But I can understand your unfamiliarity with the role.
I also think you didn't do a very good job protecting yourself and that revealing the doublevoter so early in the game, again, was a bit hasty and perhaps imo a wrong decision to make. I think it heightened the level of suspicion and made people a little overly analytical of everyone's posts.
Chibo I think you're okay with me for now... I still find some of your beginning play choices a little weird though... but moving on:
@CK - Fair response. I can see how it was bad play now, but I still thought you were very scatty in placing an immediate vote on BK. You've built this whole image of being someone very eager and investigative, especially when you say stuff like this later on:
But then you're sudden vote on BK was without any investigation at all. This is why I thought it seemed a little staged. You seem like an experienced player and this small lack of consistency threw me off a little.
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Anyways...
With the whole fiasco over Chibo, BK, a few points thrown towards CK by KevinM, CK being really curious over a few posters including yourself etc etc... why you haven't even twitched to any of these factors happening in the game is beyond me! There's a lot of substance you could focus on. Who are these experienced players that are restating the same opinions as your own that are preventing you from elaborating a little more?
FoS: airgemini
The problem I have with voting you is that you were like this in Grammy's Mafia... and you were mafia along with me. If you were mafia again I'd be certain you would mix it up a little to avoid building up suspicion.
Chibo I thought you were hasty to place a vote on SuSa that early in the game. 90% of the players hadn't even posted anything >_> But I can understand your unfamiliarity with the role.
This part was a little off to me but I might be overthinking. Since Tom established that the doublevoter could be an indie as well as town, you're slipping this statement in there a little too unnaturally imo.
I also think you didn't do a very good job protecting yourself and that revealing the doublevoter so early in the game, again, was a bit hasty and perhaps imo a wrong decision to make. I think it heightened the level of suspicion and made people a little overly analytical of everyone's posts.
I can understand this... it was a genuine post that you probably regret. I'm interested to see how the nightkills play out though. They could be very telling.
Chibo I think you're okay with me for now... I still find some of your beginning play choices a little weird though... but moving on:
@CK - Fair response. I can see how it was bad play now, but I still thought you were very scatty in placing an immediate vote on BK. You've built this whole image of being someone very eager and investigative, especially when you say stuff like this later on:
But then you're sudden vote on BK was without any investigation at all. This is why I thought it seemed a little staged. You seem like an experienced player and this small lack of consistency threw me off a little.
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Anyways...
I think Air is being too vague. His posts sort of drift in the clouds. There's no substance. It's weird Air how you accuse others of having bad reasons for voting you when you voted on me "just because..."
With the whole fiasco over Chibo, BK, a few points thrown towards CK by KevinM, CK being really curious over a few posters including yourself etc etc... why you haven't even twitched to any of these factors happening in the game is beyond me! There's a lot of substance you could focus on. Who are these experienced players that are restating the same opinions as your own that are preventing you from elaborating a little more?
FoS: airgemini
The problem I have with voting you is that you were like this in Grammy's Mafia... and you were mafia along with me. If you were mafia again I'd be certain you would mix it up a little to avoid building up suspicion.
@Air: Because most of your posts are driven by thoughts made by others and not your own. When you were asked a question, the majority of your responses were just ideas taken from other people in a form of agreeing. When you initiated your own post (rare), you normally parrot and echo from other players.
The reason why you weren't my at the top was because your play style conflicts with scummy behavior. It's hard to determine with you.
@Everyone: What was everyone's final take on Xiivi? I, myself, found it strange because it was completely out of character from the Xiivi we knew and loved in Disney Mafia (reserved, calm, short-spoken). My only qualm with the issue was how hard he was pushing Susa who was obviously from my eyes an anxious townie wanting to bring his own style into his first Mafia game.
The reason why you weren't my at the top was because your play style conflicts with scummy behavior. It's hard to determine with you.
@Everyone: What was everyone's final take on Xiivi? I, myself, found it strange because it was completely out of character from the Xiivi we knew and loved in Disney Mafia (reserved, calm, short-spoken). My only qualm with the issue was how hard he was pushing Susa who was obviously from my eyes an anxious townie wanting to bring his own style into his first Mafia game.
CK you're suspicions of me sound like something I've read before.
Hmmmmm.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Too_Townie
Also reading your post made it sound like you wanted the investigators to investigate Chibo, sorry even after REREADING it multiple times that's how it seems.
So don't caps lock cruise control me, your point is moot.
:D
Hmmmmm.
http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Too_Townie
Also reading your post made it sound like you wanted the investigators to investigate Chibo, sorry even after REREADING it multiple times that's how it seems.
So don't caps lock cruise control me, your point is moot.
:D
My last post assumed that if a majority lynch wasn't reached by deadline, then the player with the highest number of votes would be lynched. Rereading things, I found out this isn't the case and we have approximately ~48 hours~ to reach a decision (on the weekend nonetheless, where players are notable for being inactive...). No Lynch on Day 1 is really, really bad. I will go ahead and Vote Deadline Extention, however I have a feeling Steel won't give one since he imposed it on us in the first place. :/
Those not voting should really consider making their votes and their reasoning, and should probably be commenting on the current lynch candidates regardless of if they support that lynch or not. A bunch of spread out votes = no lynch = town doesn't use it's best weapon.
I'm dropping the question since it operated under the assumption that no majority = highest vote lynch.
So you never had any real explanation for your vote in the first place other than referencing the pages beforehand, and quickly remove it now that you've been reminded of it with no opinions on anything else?
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Regardless:
unvote: vote: Omni
This really just trivializes the events that have occurred in the game thus far in an effort to avoid commenting on anything. You mention it being difficult to get tells, but at the end of the post, you give some lynch candidates without reasoning. Surely you felt you had some tells on them?
It's generally Marc's playstyle to wreak of ambiguity...and you mention that your suspicion is partially due to his playstyle. Really, you accuse Marc of playing the way he always plays and vote him for it. This feels like psuedo-scumhunting to me. Your defense of SuSa makes the assumption that he is able to daytalk with someone who is able to coach him. Early in the game we discussed that we don't know if this is true or not (in fact Marc pointed it out against CK [I don't feel Marc has been "parroting parrots" in this game as you seem to believe by the way.]), so using "he would have been coached" as a defense is subpar. Also remember the beginning fiasco occurred in a very short time period, before a large portion of players had checked in.
So you really haven't gotten me to feel better about your player slot at all and managed to earn my vote.
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As for other lynch candidates, I wouldn't mind going back to the BK lynch if no support picked up for the Omni lynch. The reasons I mentioned before for my BK vote and his wishy-washy placement and removal of his vote don't sit well with me.
I don't support an air lynch.
The thing is, air is playing differently than his play in Grammys Mafia. Throughout all of day 1, he didn't throw down a vote, and attempted to ride the tides of the BK lynch on Day 2 in Grammys. However in this game, he has voiced an opinion, placed a vote, and stuck to his opinion. He doesn't come off as wishy-washy as he did in Grammys.
This comes off as very town to me. The association that asking for a modkill might be scummy is reaching, but it comes off as a townie unfamiliar with modkills rather than scum attempting to grasp for straws as CK classified it as.
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Oh look, I checked for ninjaposts!!
I don't feel that way about Air in this game at all. He actually has made up an effort to bring new things to the table, unlike, say, BK.
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I'm going to have to agree with Kevin that the way it was worded, CK's post feels like an attempt to direct night actions.
The first sentence discusses the possibility of an independent DV. The second sentence saying you wish to wait for investigation to turn up anything. It is very easy to read that as "Chibo's PR is ambiguous. We should wait for an investigative report tonight to decide what it really is." So yes, this does come off as power role direction.
You never had to mention investigative reports to get the point across that "We shouldn't waste time discussing Chibo's alignment in terms of his power role." The second part of your defense comes off as major deflection.
You also did not answer the question I directed at you in my previous post.
I would support a CK lynch.
I support a CK lynch but I'd rather see what develops on D2 as I've already stated.
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Lynching me wouldn't be good because then I can't do what in ned to at night.
i probably should NOt be posting but I don't want to die because i am good for town.
I shouldn't post now. I hate when I make mistakes becauase it looks like I am faking but when I go back to correct typos, it's off and then OTHER stuff gets typoed ****.
i probably should NOt be posting but I don't want to die because i am good for town.
I shouldn't post now. I hate when I make mistakes becauase it looks like I am faking but when I go back to correct typos, it's off and then OTHER stuff gets typoed ****.
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Guys, strike that last post. Don't read. I am not important.
Let's just lynch air because... b vn
Let's just lynch air because... b vn
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.... What? Have you not seen me posting my opinions on Kataefi at all? What page of this thread are you on?
ATTN: Air
Also, if we near deadline and your push for a Kat lynch continues to go nowhere, what other lynches do you support/oppose at this point?
If you are going to keep your vote on Kataefi, then please lay out your case for us again, and explain how you feel about Kat's more recent posts.
Also, if we near deadline and your push for a Kat lynch continues to go nowhere, what other lynches do you support/oppose at this point?
I'd be ok switching over to BK. I hadn't realized that without a majority we go to no lynch either. I'd rather let Omni play at least a bit to see if he does any better than Susa did. Maybe he can actually bring something to the table. And if we're simply going by people who do things detrimental to town, BK (and Chibo, for that matter) is at the top of the list for that one.
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It sounds really bad, I know, but I just have a really strong feeling about him being mafia. Like, more than anyone else. His playstyle to me seems way too similar to Grammy mafia. I'm not saying you all have to agree with me, but I just really believe he's mafia.
Probably a bad reason, I know.
His most recent post seems a little too 'big' for me. I can't help but think someone's helping him.
I know that reason on Kat is probably ******** so don't remind me. None of you have to vote for him if you don't want to, lol.
After Kat, I'd go with Chibo because of his "important power" claim.