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An index of "leaks" and status: forbrawlbattle's "second post" and Brawl360 removed

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Black/Light

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I AM NOT going to accept Ganon/ Falco and Y Link as "new chars" just cause they most like got de-cloned. They are VETS and being decloned is Sakurai's way of covering his ars after the whole clone happenings in melee.

And I refuse to believe Nya. Simply as that. 35 chars would be the worst thing to grace this otherwise great game. Plus, Her insidered seemed really dumb. . . can remember there being 35 chars on the select screen but only remember a few run-of-the-mil chars like Ness and Falcon.
 

Reptilian Overlord

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Might I offer one silent observer's speculative suggestion on this issue...

35 characters does seem like a nightmare, however...

If there are indeed only 35 characters, perhaps the 35th could be K. Rool instead of R.O.B, if jhonnyturbotti is correct? It certainly would make more sense, and jhonnyturbotti's information does not conflict with any of those other leakers mentioned in that proposed roster..

(Of course, I am being hopeful as K. Rool is the only character I want...)
 

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I WANT TO SEE R.O.B. controlled by Prof Hector if he is playable to make him different from the other R.O.B.s!!!
 

Igneous42

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This is the roster if NyaseNya, ChaosZero, Serebii, and ShadoXOR are to be believed:

1. Mario
2. Luigi (confirmed by no one, however, I doubt he would be cut)
3. Peach
4. Bowser
5. Yoshi
6. Wario
7. Donkey Kong
8. Diddy Kong
9. Link
10. Zelda/Sheik (Sheik is returning according to ChaosZero)
11. Ganondorf (Ganondorf is returning according to ChaosZero)
12. Toon Link (confirmed by NyaseNya)
13. Samus/Zero Suit Samus
14. Kirby
15. Meta Knight
16. King Dedede
17. Fox
18. Falco (Falco is returning according to ChaosZero)
19. Wolf (Wolf is in according to ChaosZero)
20. Pikachu
21. Pokemon Trainer
22. Jigglypuff (hinted by Serebii)
23. Lucario (hinted by Serebii, and is coming into Brawl according to ChaosZero)
24. Ike
25. Marth (returning according to ShadowXOR)
26. Lucas
27. Ness (returning according to NyaseNya, ChaosZero, and ShadowXOR)
28. Captain Falcon (is returning according ChaosZero and ShadowXOR)
29. Ice Climbers
30. Pit
31. Mr. Game & Watch (returning according to NyaseNya)
32. R.O.B. (is playable according to ShadowXOR)
33. Pikmin & Olimar
34. Snake
35. Sonic.

This is our roster.
Ridley and Krystal have been very popular for a long time. I have troubles believig any roster without them both, but even more troubles with one that has neither.
 

watomsk

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Sadly, we don't know how many characters are in the game so we have no prove against NyaseNya, and she was right about the delay.

Remember that this is not about what we refuse to believe, I don't like the idea of 35 chars either, but it is a possibility, so I believe it would be better is NyaseNya is include on that list with the information we have about her so far. I don't like it, but is not impossible.
 

Chepe

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Yeah, so who else finds it funny that ShadowXOR's name popped out of absolute nowhere seemingly?
 

TheNintendrone

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Hey all, I was sent by Random_Guy_42 to talk to you all.

Now before you go flaming me up the *** for what I did, know that I never meant to harm anyone, or cause trouble. I did this in a time where we had no new information, no daily blog, just the bare minimum.

I think its best if I tell the whole story from the beginning, as every time I see someone allude to it, it becomes more distant from the exact truth. I did not do it for epic lulz, and although I could have easily set up history's biggest Rick Roll, I didn't. I'm not that kind of person.

Alright. So. Imagine a world where there is no daily update on Brawl, and all you have is the E3 trailer and the Nintendo World trailer. This was back when any mention of the Dojo was just a mumble, just speculation, lost in the crowd of Geno and Sonic debates. Understand this. Embrace this.

I consistently saw people citing false information about Brawl, making things up, and so forth, and it was all getting a tad boring. With this in mind, I posted the fun fact sheet. No wait, let me back up some more. First, I posted a topic on GameFAQs saying I would be interviewing someone tied with the development of the game. If anyone were to ask me today (as my imaginary NDA would have expired, since people don't even question those things, no one really understands how they would work in this situation), I would have said Nate Bihldorff. Simple. So, instead of just pulling complete and utter bullcrap out of my butt, I told the GF users to submit questions for me to ask. People were already suspicious, and I applaud them for that. The SSBB community was much less gullible then, but much more vulnerable. So anyways, common questions back then were about alternate costumes, third parties, and number of characters. So, in one fell swoop, I answered the most popular questions using MOSTLY INFORMATION THAT WAS ALREADY AVAILABLE. That's right. The reason I was able to "predict" so many things is because I had so many obscure, but reliable sources to just sort of cop information from. For things that weren't the least bit addressed, I used common sense. Of course there would be multiple control schemes, Gamecube controllers were all but confirmed, and Nintendo would HAVE to have an option to play with the main controller. It was a matter of months before I was proven right, and the fact that there were 4 options of control, made me seem more credible...but again, I have gotten ahead of myself.

Shortly after I posted this sheet, which also included information about other Nintendo games, people were bent on discrediting me. This would lead to the longest, and ugliest revolt against a "leak", that I ever recall happening. Some guy, I forget his name, Soal2Soul or something, found my AIM and googled it. Now, don't be under the impression that this guy was some sort of super-sleuth. He wasn't. He literally just clicked my username on GameFAQs and googled the AIM SN inside. That led him to a friend's myspace. That friend's myspace led to a band myspace I used to be a part of in 8th grade. At first, people were under the impression that I was in middle school, but it got uglier. In the midst of all the photoshops of me, someone got a little too hardcore and posted my phone number and address, and birth information. He even said that the reason I did all that was to raise traffic for my blog for revenue (blog.com is free ><). It confirmed that I was 16, but this was nothing new. Anyone around for the original topic already knew that. Then I got pissed. He proceeded to spam comments on that same blog, on forums, and everything, posting his factual information (the fact that I was sixteen), along with absolute lies. This is the only reason my lie got blown out of hand. I apologize for being so immature, and the arduous months afterward, but I got mad. I refused to give up my position from then on. I knew no one could prove me wrong, at least for another few months, so I got stubborn. I went as far as to turn the tables on the guy who dug up my information, and found out that he had parental controls on his screenname, quite embarrassing for him, which he deserved, but I digress. Meanwhile, apparently, I was causing a ruckus throughout the net, including here. Again, I apologize. People even defended me, and if there is one thing I could change about the whole situation, it would be that. Anyone present might have noticed an unusual lack of thanks for my supporters, but that is because I felt deeply guilty anytime someone showed support for me. That is why I never thanked them. If you are one of the people who defended me until the end, just to be betrayed, know that I never meant for that to happen, and you didn't deserve it.

So anyways, for months, ESPECIALLY the day of the multiple control options update. June 8th was dubbed Nintendrone Day on GameFAQs because there were so many topics concerning me, the second ___-Day made because of me. The first, of course, being May Day. However, it was at this time, the time where I was most credible, that I felt the worst. So I simply decided to man-up. The end result is I have three kinds of e-mail guaranteed to be waiting for me everyday I check it: Flames, "leaks", and beggars. And whenever I post on GameFAQs, I get *****.

Ironically enough, I would later coin the term "prophet" in the context of Brawl in an argument where I was attempting to debunk someone. The topic went something like:

"I don't understand how people are doubtful when CoroCoro, a reputable magazine who has closer ties to Nintendo than most Nintendo employees, says November 22nd is the Japanese release date, but when a random person (DryBones22 or whatever, the first "Leak"er other than me) comes along and says he knows the roster, people are like "ZOMG PROPHET"

The replies went
"1. Roster
2. ???
3. Prophet"

C-C-C-Combo Breaker!"

And so on. Typical GameFAQs stuff.

Er....anyways. I'm sorry for the trouble I've caused, but I can assure you I won't do it again. By the way, the Prima leak thing...I don't run The Nintendrone blog anymore. Anytime I post, it says (Nintendrone) in the title of the post. I get tons of leaks everyday, but since I'm not an outright idiot, I know that they are all (probably) fake, so I don't bother posting. However, for whatever reason, the person who runs the blog now decided to post that particular rumor.

By the way, ShadowXOR is a phony.
 

TheNintendrone

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I saw his original post. It said something along the lines of "If you believe all these other guys, then believe me, they're all lying anyway!" but in poorer English.
 

ChronoBound

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I saw his original post. It said something along the lines of "If you believe all these other guys, then believe me, they're all lying anyway!" but in poorer English.
That's funny because in all the PMs that we have exchanged, he has used proper English. Also, I am expecting NyaseNya to make a new topic sometime this week after having there been an update with Captain Olimar and a new delay. I am hoping that when he/she does, he/she makes an outlandish prediction that ends up deconfirming him/her.
 

TheNintendrone

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Eh...I can tell you now that NyaseNya isn't so believable either. Do you KNOW how many people thought Sonic would be announced on the day that it was? I even thought it would be. That conference was CLEARLY Nintendo's last chance to publicly raise hype before the end of the year and without getting in the way of SMG.

I think from there she just got lucky.
 

Boofer

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Almost all of her predictions came true though man...Besides the other characters she mentioned, only the duel-layered disc part of her prediction hasn't come true. I really do believe Nya, unfortunately...

Nintendodrone, have you looked at her other posts and threads? It soooo seems like she is telling the truth, well at least imo.
 

Boofer

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:(

NyaseNya said:
I look forward to the day when everything I have said will be confirmed and you'll be here remembering it.
That really sucks...
 

Revven

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Ugh... this is really depressing. I cannot believe that Nya was right! 35 characters isn't a big deal to me, it's mostly the fact that she/he was right about the delay! Maaaaaaan.... oh my God... -_-;

On the bright side, Nya could be right about the dual layered disc which means we have a lot of **** to look forward to besides characters. Also, 35 characters is 10 more than what Melee had. The jump from Smash 64 to Melee was 13 characters, so 10 more isn't a stretch of the imagination, plus we already have a bunch of new characters that weren't in Melee to add up to the 35. I don't think this is disappointing, but, that's because both Wolf and Falco might be in the game as a result of CZ and Nya.

Oh and Nya was last on the 11th so... he/she hasn't been on since last Thursday. Something tells me he/she will be back on some time this week and then make a thread about it.
 

Teh Pig King

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Which move is this?

Originally Posted by NyaseNya
Captain Olimar is in and he has a whip like attack where he uses Pikmin.
This was the 32nd post on her thread about the prediction of a 2nd Brawl delay here . Is NyaseNya talking about Pikmin & Olimar's B-up move, the Pikmin chain, or is she talking about some other move?
 

Mr. Ocax

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I love how these idiots who post fake bull****, come on here and apologize and say they did it to make people happy to get some information. Hey! Guess what?! Fake information, isnt actually information. It is just a giant load of crap for people to fight over. The most hilarious part is that these "insiders" or "prophets" actually expect people to believe them about OTHER stuff after they are caught as being fake. People like this gigantic idiot, Nintendrone, does he actually think that anyone will ever go to his blog to get information or to see what he has to say? The answer is no, because who is going to try to get decent information from a liar? His blog is completely worthless now, just as nintendrone is. He might as well delete his blog and all of his forum accounts, because he is just a liar and is completely useless. Anyone who actually believes anything that Nintendrone now says or says in the future is a bigger idiot than he is. The fact that these liars would make up fake information, is baffling. Do they think their reputation will be dandy once they are proven to be full of ****? Or do they think they won't be caught? Well thats even stupider than thinking that their reputation won't be shattered. In closing, Nintendrone, go jump into a well filled with fire and bears.
 

Zoo-bellocks

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Ok, I'm looking through Nya's old posts, and I'm a bit confused by their rise to insider status, so I made a mini-log here...

Nya's earliest posts are from 2002, and suggest they're just a random person from Sweden who knows no more about anything than anyone else (since he/she is actually asking questions about Melee). A lot of her posts tend to deal with Peach and other Nintendo girls' alleged sexualization.

Then, in the Brawl speculation era, they still don't seem to be anything special; just speculating along with the rest of us.
ex. " If they include Krystal, they MUST have her Adventures version, where she was at least a bit original. The Assault and Command versions were just clones of the rest of Star Fox Team."
This still suggests they don't know any more than any one else on this forum.

Then, October 7th, they speak of a contact who told them Sonic will be on the Dojo Wednesday. He/she taunts the disbelievers and seems extremely confident. Then, on October 10th, they flaunt victory. Same day, they say Olimar is "very likely" to be in, and not confirmed. They also claimed Peach had a more mature design (as in scantily clad) in earlier development.

-October 14th, they say Captain Olimar is 100% confirmed.
-October 30th, Brawl is dual layered; says it won't be released in Europe until April/May
-November 16th, Brawl Playtest, but thanks to Gimpy all the info was deleted. Is there any way for mods to recover this?. Says Ness, "Toon Link" and G&W are in, and that Mega Man was never in.
-December 5th, says Brawl will get another delay in the US and Olimar has a whip like attack with Pikmin.

And that's the end...
It's a bit hard to judge, but it's scarily accurate. Does anyone know where they claimed 35 characters, or was it in the post Gimpyfish screwed with? Did anyone save it perhaps?
 

ChronoBound

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Ok, I'm looking through Nya's old posts, and I'm a bit confused by their rise to insider status, so I made a mini-log here...

Nya's earliest posts are from 2002, and suggest they're just a random person from Sweden who knows no more about anything than anyone else (since he/she is actually asking questions about Melee). A lot of her posts tend to deal with Peach and other Nintendo girls' alleged sexualization.

Then, in the Brawl speculation era, they still don't seem to be anything special; just speculating along with the rest of us.
ex. " If they include Krystal, they MUST have her Adventures version, where she was at least a bit original. The Assault and Command versions were just clones of the rest of Star Fox Team."
This still suggests they don't know any more than any one else on this forum.

Then, October 7th, they speak of a contact who told them Sonic will be on the Dojo Wednesday. He/she taunts the disbelievers and seems extremely confident. Then, on October 10th, they flaunt victory. Same day, they say Olimar is "very likely" to be in, and not confirmed. They also claimed Peach had a more mature design (as in scantily clad) in earlier development.

-October 14th, they say Captain Olimar is 100% confirmed.
-October 30th, Brawl is dual layered; says it won't be released in Europe until April/May
-November 16th, Brawl Playtest, but thanks to Gimpy all the info was deleted. Is there any way for mods to recover this?. Says Ness, "Toon Link" and G&W are in, and that Mega Man was never in.
-December 5th, says Brawl will get another in the US and Olimar has a whip like attack with Pikmin.

And that's the end...
It's a bit hard to judge, but it's scarily accurate. Does anyone know where they claimed 35 characters, or was it in the post Gimpyfish screwed with? Did anyone save it perhaps?
*slow claps

Well done, once again Zoo-bellocks. :)
 

Pieman0920

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Well to be quite frank, Olimar doesn't have a whip attack as far as we know. His recovery move is somewhat simmilar, but neither a whip, nor an attack. =/

Also, as to the algamated list as a whole, it seems highly questionable. Wolf for instance being there along with Falco and Fox. It's really too repetetive. Also Ness...since Sakurai basically said himself that he's not in, and quite frankly I believe him more. Oh, and also R.O.B. <_<
 

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I'm done with this garbage.
I'll just wait two weeks for the japan release and be done with these *******
 

Starphoenix

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I do not believe NyaseNya, ShadowXOR has mentioned that it is impossible for anyone outside of the Nintendo big wigs to know the full roster. I believe she did know some stuff, but lied about others. The 35 roster does not make sense since we now have 24 characters, minus the other 10 from Melee that might return; so I do not believe her to be 100% right.

However; there is something interesting with this blog from a site called thenproject:

Originally Posted by Nintendude on The N Project Blog
N: so…any news on the capcom front?
Y: i did hear something interesting last week
Y: can´t confirm it yet tough
N: really? what is it?
N: please say RE5 for the Wii :p
Y: lol, sorry, it´s not RE news
Y: but it´s pretty cool
Y: ****** told me they ended negotiating a deal with ninty last month
Y: to have megaman at ssbb
N: O_O
Y: i know!
N: That´s awesome
N: when are they announcing it?
Y: dunno. soon i guess.
Y: but since it took them a really long time to negotiate they might have to push the realease date even more.[/QUOTE]

This was posted after the big delay, but before this delay sometime in Oct-Nov, so this while not 100% truth. Is something interesting to note, and something to hope is true.
 

Milos

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Ok now you should put up nyasenya, he predicted sonic's announcement TO THE DAY. He also told us it would be delayed til march before there was even speculation about it. He predicted Captain Olimar. Basically, nothing he's said has been deconfirmed, and 2 things have been confirmed after his statement. he's pretty credible.
 

Igneous42

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Ok, I'm looking through Nya's old posts, and I'm a bit confused by their rise to insider status, so I made a mini-log here...

Nya's earliest posts are from 2002, and suggest they're just a random person from Sweden who knows no more about anything than anyone else (since he/she is actually asking questions about Melee). A lot of her posts tend to deal with Peach and other Nintendo girls' alleged sexualization.

Then, in the Brawl speculation era, they still don't seem to be anything special; just speculating along with the rest of us.
ex. " If they include Krystal, they MUST have her Adventures version, where she was at least a bit original. The Assault and Command versions were just clones of the rest of Star Fox Team."
This still suggests they don't know any more than any one else on this forum.

Then, October 7th, they speak of a contact who told them Sonic will be on the Dojo Wednesday. He/she taunts the disbelievers and seems extremely confident. Then, on October 10th, they flaunt victory. Same day, they say Olimar is "very likely" to be in, and not confirmed. They also claimed Peach had a more mature design (as in scantily clad) in earlier development.

-October 14th, they say Captain Olimar is 100% confirmed.
-October 30th, Brawl is dual layered; says it won't be released in Europe until April/May
-November 16th, Brawl Playtest, but thanks to Gimpy all the info was deleted. Is there any way for mods to recover this?. Says Ness, "Toon Link" and G&W are in, and that Mega Man was never in.
-December 5th, says Brawl will get another delay in the US and Olimar has a whip like attack with Pikmin.

And that's the end...
It's a bit hard to judge, but it's scarily accurate. Does anyone know where they claimed 35 characters, or was it in the post Gimpyfish screwed with? Did anyone save it perhaps?
Not really. I think whoever this is just got real lucky. Lets look at her predictions shall we?
Sonic: If I had known there was a bit Nintendo press even I probably could have guessed this to. At that point we still though Dec 3rd and this was the last big chance to announce him. It was obvious that if he was in the game he would be announced before release. Nintendo definitely used him as a hype tool. So guessing him wasn't that hard.

As for Olimar a lot of people guessed him, and him having a whip like recovery move was also guessed by a lot of people.

So that leaves the delay. She also said only in the US, and technically it's been delayed in both. I think she just got a lucky guess there. It wasn't that far of stretch to figure it could get delayed one more time.

Maybe she is a true prophet or maybe not. I actually don't care at this point, because she doesn't seem to have posted a full roster or said anything about numbers like people said she did. Knowing that there is nothing that is bad that she's predicted.
 
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