An index of "leaks" and status: forbrawlbattle's "second post" and Brawl360 removed

[Masque]

To my knowledge he admitted to the roster being fake not that other brawl info that I posted from May.

Seriously people on Smash Boards never know what they're talking about. Aeris, in particular.

He clearly says that the Prima guide leak was false here:

http://nintendrone.blog.com/2414170/

That post was in December and has nothing to do with the May "Fun Fact Sheet".

The May Fun Fact Sheet, he never even commented on it except saying it was indeed true. Id like you Aeris to find the link you speak of where he admits the may 07 info was false......(I asked you before but you never produced anything)

Leave it up TC. Seriously people do some research. Aeris just said it was fake because he probably heard someone say Nintendrone admitted something being fake, so he most likely assumed it was the info I posted....but its not...

...

No, I never know what I'm talking about. Silly ol' me.

http://boards.ign.com/super_smash_bros_/b5213/142231484/p2

I admittedly never saw your request before. That's about as good as I can do without digging through the dungheap (and I use the term quite literally) of posts known as GameFAQs. I assumed nothing; I read his original confession of falsehood when it was first posted. The above link shows other people talking about the May Day Fallacy Parade information, as well as confirmation from other people that Nintendrone himself admitted that the information was indeed falsified.

Please stop failing. Have you read Short Fuse's translation thread? Aeris is one of the best contributors there.
What have you contributed?

Aw, why thank ya kindly, good sir.

Considering he's in localization, shouldn't Volke411 have good vocabulary and understanding of the English language? And avoid silly errors such as spelling 'cannon' as 'canon,' or omitting commas?

Yeah, I noticed the exact same thing. Regardless of what he does at Nintendo, it's just common grammatical and spelling mistakes that (frankly) no one should be making in the professional world. I can understand the occasional typo and so forth, but that thing is just laden with errors.

"Prima Guide" and "Nintendrone Blog" are fake. I can vouch for Aeris as I frequent GameFAQs often.

(I know you already took it down, but I just thought I reaffirm the fact - Many people still believe both of those sources)

Ah, I appreciate it. Good to know I'm not the only one who remembers. Maybe I do know what I'm talking about after all...

 

[MajinNecro69]

Did you even read the fact sheet?

1. Before E3 and the DOJO EVERYONE was told that the game wouldnt be using motion controls. Sakurai said this himself. I guess we should deconfirm sakurai right? This is almost the same deal with delays. The community is told something and Nintendo changes it. Here is the link to the IGN story about the famitsu journal where sakurai himself says exactly what nintendrone about the controls ( which is the worst argument out of all the things to debunk him on, especially since nintendrone wrote this the 20th and the IGN article was written on the 18th. Meaning, Nintendrone could have easily copied the info from here)

http://wii.ign.com/articles/709/709205p1.html

Sakurai says: "I was given the task of creating Smash Bros.," explained Sakurai. "Of course, the topic becomes, how should we use the special remote controller? During the planning stages, we gave a lot of thought to this." In the end, Sakurai and his staff decided to not go too far with the controller, in particular avoiding being new just for the sake of being new, which Sakurai worried would make the game difficult to play.

2. Nintendrone doesnt say there WONT be motion controls. He says "Players will be able to choose from multiple control options. Main focus is on GC controller, and Nintendo is currently considering redistribution of them" and "No motion-sensitive controls in main game". And like I said before Sakurai told everyone that there would be hardly any motion control so that second part is expected. Whats not expected though is that theres multiple control options which nintendrone speaks of.

Look Im not saying he real or not but hes been spot on for a few things. I think he deserves to be up there just as much as the other "leakers" especially since they have way more unbelievable info than what I posted.

I'll put him back up, but I'll put under the introduction to Nintendrone, that this has allegedly been said to be confirmed fake by the creator. Since, he DOES predict a number of things correctly.

 

[Japanese Monk]

The May post is also fake. Look at the post I made earlier.

Some excellent proof you got there to debunk the may info in that "earlier" post.

"Nintendrone and Prima guidr are fake" Nice. That somehow proves that the may info is fake. Im satisfied.

Let me try.

"Kotaku" and "Matts IGN Blog" are fake. I can vouch for Bozon as I frequent GameFAQs often.

The info posted on IGN in January is also fake. See my above post.

Kewl. I never knew you could prove/disprove things by giving out little to no information and then using circular reasoning to prove a statement with no basis. Awesome!

 

[Igneous42]

Sure doesn't take long to get added to that list eh, IGN guy made that at like 11:00 this morning.....

 

[Igneous42]

Referrng to Volke411's comment on Zeldas new down b; Since when does Zelda have a sword?

Twilight Princess

 

[Japanese Monk]

Aeris, Id like to know what Im looking for.

You linked me to a IGN thread about the Nintendrone blog. Everyone in that thread labels it a rumor (as it should be) but they are optimistic at the implications if true.

btw, like i said to the other guy...I respect what you do, but in this instance everyone has been saying things but giving NO LINKS to back it up. How am I supposed to believe someone said something if theres no link to the actual post?

 

[RandomGuy42]

So what proof do you have that he is right, hm? All I've heard from you is "He might be right" and you weren't even around for that period of time. He confessed to being fake. I don't have a link due to the fact GameFAQs deleted it's old topics, but if it satisfies you, I'll just go get the man in question to admit his fakery again. Will that satisfy you?

 

[Anth0ny]

The newest one fails because of Dixie and Tiny. Each one of them have an EXTREMELY small chance of getting in, but both? Please.

 

[Zevox]

Volke411 is pretty obviously BS. To start with, he claims Wolf uses machine guns, when we know for a fact that Snake was limited to explosives due to Sakurai not wanting to include bullet-using weapons, which should be enough to debunk him right there.

Then theres Tetra, who is nonsensical to begin with, but then he also claims she has Sheik's specials (yeah, because it totally makes sense for her to use a chain whip and disappear in a puff of smoke). Then theres the Dixie/Tiny Kong thing, Captain Falcon's FS, "PK love" as an Earthbound character (I know next to nothing about the series and even I know thats an attack, not a character), and miscellaneous other hard-to-believe aspects to his claims (all four Star Fox characters got in? Metroid got 4 characters? Theres 42 characters on that list, 44 with ZSS and Tiny, but its not the entire roster?). Plus, as many have said, he has fairly poor spelling and grammar (not to mention apparent inability to format his post in a way that is remotely well-organized or decent looking) for someone who claims to be in localization.

Yeah, not a credible leak at all.

Zevox

 

[Masque]

Some excellent proof you got there to debunk the may info in that "earlier" post.

"Nintendrone and Prima guidr are fake" Nice. That somehow proves that the may info is fake. Im satisfied.

Let me try.

"Kotaku" and "Matts IGN Blog" are fake. I can vouch for Bozon as I frequent GameFAQs often.

The info posted on IGN in January is also fake. See my above post.

Kewl. I never knew you could prove/disprove things by giving out little to no information and then using circular reasoning to prove a statement with no basis. Awesome!

*sigh* This really doesn't have to be so difficult.

Shmorp
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Date Posted: 10/5/07 3:38pm Subject: RE: Supposed Leaked Brawl info at Nintendrone Blog
I'm bumping this because the people who posted below my last comment don't bother to read through threads and I'm sick of these stupid rumours.

NINTENDRONE ADMITTED IT WAS A LIE! HE POSTS ON THE GAMEFAQS SSBB BOARD REGULARLY. ASK HIM YOURSELF (He's NintendroneZero).

Seriously, it doesn't take a genius to figure out this is crap anyway. Take a look around his blog. He's not a bigshot journalist. Just a nobody that Nintendo would never give tons of information to, or even spend a minute with. But whatever. If it has to take 2 months before idiots realize he was bull****ing, so be it.

This poster hit it right on the head. Not only am I not the only one to remember the creator himself admitting that it was falsified, but this poster even gives you a means of seeking out the man who made up the lies in case you're still too deluded to figure it out. This has been dead for a while, and bringing it back now only serves to prove that you either: 1) have only just recently begun following Brawl's development (which can be forgiven), or 2) are too stubborn to acknowledge the fact that it's been fake for a while, something that bothers you because this information is "new" to you. The reason no one has talked about it being fake in recent weeks is because it was denounced months ago at this point (in seeing the date on that IGN post).

So go ahead--believe what you want! But it will only serve to make you seem ignorant. We're TELLING you that it's fake, and offering up the best evidence that we can; granted, it's not much, but we're also talking about something that was originally posted a little less than a year ago, and was debunked a few months ago at that.

Quit trying to pry open the coffin: there's nothing to see.

 

[Tenkai]

YSM:

Actually, even if there is no move named "Aura Power" in Pokémon Game, "Aura Power" does exists and it comes from the 8th Pokémon Movie: "Lucario and the Mystery of Mew".

In this movie, Lucario is the main protagonist (along with Ash and his friends) and all the movie is based on this Aura Power stuff. that's why a Final Smash named "Aura Power" is quiet possible for Lucario...


But Dixie/Tiny, plus machine-gun Wolf and PK Love stuff make his roster Fails for sure.

 

[PyrasTerran]

Sure doesn't take long to get added to that list eh, IGN guy made that at like 11:00 this morning.....

Idunno, maybe the folks managing this thread should not jump the gun so quickly..

http://blogs.ign.com/Volke411/2008/01/14/76946/

Volke411's admitted to the list being fake.

 

[Japanese Monk]

So what proof do you have that he is right, hm? All I've heard from you is "He might be right" and you weren't even around for that period of time. He confessed to being fake. I don't have a link due to the fact GameFAQs deleted it's old topics, but if it satisfies you, I'll just go get the man in question to admit his fakery again. Will that satisfy you?

And thats the beautiful thing. This isnt about if he's right or wrong seeing as half the guys in the original post are most likely blowing hot air. I just think he deserves to be up there just as much as Volk or almightygoat especially since.....

1. What he writes is more believable than any of the other leakers and almost everything written there has been confirmed true.

2. You keep saying he admitted to being fake yet theres no links. I, however have a link to his blog where in december he admits to the Prima guide roster being fake since Serebii disconfirmed it. The Prima guide having nothing to do with the "May Fun Fact Sheet" In fact, he didnt even say that it was his prima guide info....he says, "DISCLAIMER: THIS IS STRICTLY A RUMOR FOR NOW. Supposedly, a graphics designer on staff for Prima (guide books for games) has leaked the roster, and is as follows"

And for some reason 500 people think that HE wrote that. He clearly states that he was getting this info from somewhere else and it was a rumor.

Here is the original Prima guide "leak" post: http://nintendrone.blog.com/2368798/

And Here is the acceptance that it was indeed fake: http://nintendrone.blog.com/2414170/

So where in the world is the admittance to being a liar or a fraud? Where is it? Apparently you people go on heresay instead of actually investigating what someone said.

Its kinda like that game you play in grade school. Whisper to Jimmy that he has cool shoes and when it comes back to you, it turns out the president is coming to visit the school.

 

[RandomGuy42]

Well, it was fairly obvious from the outset. Goodbye, Volke.

EDIT (Japanese Monk)

I liked how you ignored most of what I said. -_-

For the record, "Prima Leak" isn't Nintendrones either:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/fakeleak.jpg

Look at that! Another random on GameFAQs spouting unsubstantiated information. And Nintendrone posts this up as a fact with only a mild spoiler tag. And you trust him?

For the record, that RoxasVIII account is an alternate of the poster MetalIceWolf. I have no way of proving that either, but again, we've been around the fakes longer and know what has and hasn't been disproven. Just because it's new to you doesn't make it fake.

Anyway, I've tried to get into contact with the Nintendrone. Hopefully in a few hours he'll post here and clear up this mess for you.

 

[Nicktendo]

I hate all this BS. Everyones making it up. For what reason I don't know, but its ****ing stupid and annoying.

 

[Zek]

Dixie = fake. Why would someone even say that? Sakurai's poll considered Diddy Kong and Diddy + Dixie for the slot, and Diddy won out. There's no way Dixie would be playable by herself.

 

[PyrasTerran]

Hm, and SuperStarship has added Ness to the roster of Unlocked in Other Modes; http://www.gamespot.com/users/SuperStarship/

 

[Japanese Monk]

@ Aeris

Actually this isnt news to me as I have an account over at IGN and frequented the Nsider boards.
All I can say about that is....believe what you may. Fake or not he still was spot on. Should I be labeled as ignorant because I want to see proof of something you tell me?

Thats what the definition of ignorant is? When I first posted, I said that he very well could be fake...... But I want to see a link. Which isnt so hard or demanding now is it?

I really don't think I was being unreasonable. Shouldnt we demand to see proof of WMD's? lawl. Now only if I was around then eh? You wouldnt be saying the things you're saying now.

 

[Nicktendo]

Its all a lie, this prophet and leak crap is so dumb.

 

[MajinNecro69]

Nintendrone & Volke411 debunked, SuperStarship "leak" edited.

I added Aeris' posting of the IGN guy who has record that Nintendrone lied as a placeholder until I get confirmation from Nintendrone's exact post.

 

[Brav3r]

I like this thread, is shows a lot people that have claimed to have leaks or inside info are fakes.
Brawl is tightly under wraps this time around, they can't even predict sakurai. its too much of one thing or another. Some give out information too far and beyond aiming too much for "Wtf". if there are truly any leaks it needs to have the right amount of detail. i think the one's who have bragged about their leaks turn into fakes faster than the ones post the leaks and learn to STFU after. besides they won't get any praise until after the confirmatoin.

 

[Brav3r]

woops *double post* fpr to fix it

 

[MajinNecro69]

Smash Boards is acting up...double post...my bad.

 

[pepiux]

In SuperStarship's blog Ness is listed under cut characters...

And also, I asked rapscouter how many new Zelda reps we would get, and he answered something among these lines:

"1 or 2 depending how you look at it"

 

[MIRAI87]

I think that superstarship just debunked himself. He mentioned the 'function' of Tingle's AT, but didn't we see at JumpFesta that he serves no purpose?

That, and on his blog + roster he mentioned that Ness was cut ... not in.

 

[Zevox]

In SuperStarship's blog Ness is listed under cut characters...

And also, I asked rapscouter how many new Zelda reps we would get, and he answered something among these lines:

"1 or 2 depending how you look at it"

Sounds like a reference to Young "Wind Waker" Link (some consider him a newcomer, others consider him a veteran, being just Young Link with a different graphical style) and someone else. If its true, interesting. The only other plausible Zelda newcomer characters would be Midna or Vaati.

Zevox

 

[MajinNecro69]

I think that superstarship just debunked himself. He mentioned the 'function' of Tingle's AT, but didn't we see at JumpFesta that he serves no purpose?

That, and on his blog + roster he mentioned that Ness was cut ... not in.

SuperStarship mentioned Tingle? All I saw was the TP Ooccoo Item, the Mike Jones AT and the Digger D. Mole AT.

BTW, WHO is Digger D. Mole???

 

[Terrabottuti]

BTW, WHO is Digger D. Mole???

According to what I've looked up on google, Digger D. Mole is simply another name for Muddy Mole, who we know was confirmed at Whobby '08... perhaps there's some localization differences since I've never heard him mentioned by that name before.

 

[MIRAI87]

I COULD HAVE SWORN he mentioned Tingle's AT and what it did. But now it's not there...

Either my eyes deceived me, or he edited it off right away.

It was something along the lines of 'Tingle carries you off the stage to the edge of the recovery line. It's difficult to recover from.'

 

[pepiux]

Sounds like a reference to Young "Wind Waker" Link (some consider him a newcomer, others consider him a veteran, being just Young Link with a different graphical style) and someone else. If its true, interesting. The only other plausible Zelda newcomer characters would be Midna or Vaati.

Zevox

that's exactly what I think

 

[RandomGuy42]

"You may know Nintendrone from his bogus Prima leak from December, where he mentioned that he leaked it."

Again, may I just point out:

For the record, "Prima Leak" isn't Nintendrones either:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a340/Dark_Random/fakeleak.jpg

 

[Goopygoo]

Why does Superstarship both confirm and deconfirm Ness? He can't be both.

 

[Pendragonslayer]

I'm pretty sure the guy who mentioned "PK Love" meant it as Claus' Final Smash, he just didn't give the details like the other ones.

'Course, I believe the guy is total bogus anyways, but I guess I can't believe someone would be that idiotic in making a fake roster -_-

 

[bballstar23]

There's too many prophets coming from GameFaqs/Spot.

 

[surfingnc]

ahhhhh!! i hope superstarship is wrong about falco... he's my favorite character in melee!

 

[Kittah4]

Gotta say, wouldn't mind SuperStarship's roster too bad, but I won't trust him as far as I could throw him (a starship probably weighs quite a lot). After so many falsehood leaks, what makes anyone think they can trust him, especially when he pulls the "Hey, don't bite the hand that feeds you" nonsense?

 

[Yigguth]

Where was it confirmed that sonic and snake are unlocked via other modes? Am I missing something?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Where was it confirmed that sonic and snake are unlocked via other modes? Am I missing something?

It wasn't, it was only confirmed that they are unlocked...somehow...

 

[AdmantNESS]

Coro Coro's cards said that Sonic and Snake are unlockable.

 

[MIRAI87]

Any prophet that says 'you don't deserve the information' is a pompous s*ithead and should probably not be listened to. Especially one that casually 'forgets' important information, like the fact that Ness and Roy exist. And I'm also pretty certain he had tingle up for awhile with an incorrect AT action.