Am I the only one who plays Friendly Fire Off?

[OmegaXis]

Seriously, I just found out that friendly fire is on for competitive play. I have never heard that outside of here. Am I the only one who thinks friendly fire should be off.

 

[Hydra.]

I like it off when I play friendly's but not for tourny play or alot of things are unfair.

 

[Ochobobo]

Of course you're not the only casual player to have it off. The reason it's on for competitive play is that it takes more skill than merely spamming an attack regardless of which other characters around you.

 

[Project D]

I used Smashwiki to find out about the rules, when I watch like Best Vids of each character thread, I wondered what the rules were, and I never heard of "Dave's Stupid Rule"
http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Tournament_legal_(SSBB) <---link

 

[ndayday]

I think it's better on. Mostly because with it off you can just spam and recklessly throw attacks everywhere, while it's so much more fun (and harder) to have to develop strategies that work well with two characters, and then actually put them to use without killing your team-mate.

But yeah, I'm sure you're not the only one. And that link doesn't take me to anything...but this here is the Official SBR Recommended Ruleset, for singles and doubles.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=187736

 

[UncleSam]

I play FF off with my friends, I don't mind them spamming, I can easily find ways around it, other than that I try to play FF off but I seriously don't care too much

 

[Scott!]

And while this rule takes away some strategies of stupid amounts of spamming, it opens up a few new ones, especially with characters like G&W or Ness and Lucas. G&W can absorb a teammate's strong projectile to fill his Oil Panic move, and Ness and Lucas can be healed by a teammate with a projectile.

 

[Hydra.]

It's annoying getting the same replies over and over again.
No, you're not the only one that likes to play with FF off.
Board Closed?

 

[OmegaXis]

You mean "Thread Closed."

And I would like to hear more about this so mods please don't lock.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Team Attacks are usually disabled when I play. Makes it so that none of your teammates can KO you by mistake. Besides, KOing teammates equals a Self-Destruct, which would hurt your team.

 

[Hydra.]

There is really nothing else to hear about this topic.

 

[wh1te5had0w]

the tourneys that i go to we have team damage set to on so you work as a team and not fight like a FFA

/thread

 

[SpongeBathBill]

There is really nothing else to hear about this topic.

Then why do you keep coming back?

On-topic: I've also heard that having team attack off opens avenues of abuse that make play downright stupid, and that's why it's kept on.

 

[Someguy13]

I play with team attack off. Its more fun and makes it more interesting when you have to watch that you and your partner don't KO each other.

 

[:mad:]

Why play with Team Attack off...? o_o
No, really.

the tourneys that i go to we have team damage set to on so you work as a team and not fight like a FFA

Also, QFT.
If you play with FF off, that just shows you're too lazy to develop any form of strategy. And like someone else said, it's practically an FFA.

 

[Project D]

oh Straked do you remember yesterday in the team brawl?
right, heres a little something rather funny happened, Me (Samus) + K2A (G&W) Vs. Straked (Ness or was it Mario?) + C Spker (I think) (Ness).
I don't really play team brawls so of course it was difficult for me as I am more adapt to 1 v 1s. Friendly Fire was on, stage was Battlefield. G&W was on the left trying to recover, one of the 2 (Straked or CSpyk) was about to spike him and I was intending to spike the opposing team. but when G&W did a second jump or upB, I was already in the spiking animation so I ended up spiking my own teammate. the other guy on the oppsing team stood on the other side of the stage laughing his *bleep* off.

 

[Conspiricy]

oh Straked do you remember yesterday in the team brawl?
right, heres a little something rather funny happened, Me (Samus) + K2A (G&W) Vs. Straked (Ness or was it Mario?) + C Spker (I think) (Ness).
I don't really play team brawls so of course it was difficult for me as I am more adapt to 1 v 1s. Friendly Fire was on, stage was Battlefield. G&W was on the left trying to recover, one of the 2 (Straked or CSpyk) was about to spike him and I was intending to spike the opposing team. but when G&W did a second jump or upB, I was already in the spiking animation so I ended up spiking my own teammate. the other guy on the oppsing team stood on the other side of the stage laughing his *bleep* off.

That has happened to me as ganondorf. Most embarresing thing ever.

(Immediatly managed to murder punch his *** back to hell though)

 

[Exce L]

Sure, for friendly play its fine.. but if you want to develop strategy or any tactical skills you need to turn it on... otherwise its sorta like playing a free for all.

 

[_Sync_]

The first time I was skeptic at the proposal with team attack on. I was never adept to playing with partners, I was more of a solo fighter. Things would be different, I had to work on not hitting my partner and not letting him get in the way of my plans. Fortunately me and my friend didn't do that bad at Ryko's place. Since then, we've been practicing on team combinations. Now it's perfectly natural to us.

 

[Mit]

I'm thinking it's because there are tons of ridiculous things you can do with it off. You could devise way too many extremely painful combos with friendly fire off, and certain combinations of characters would be found that can completely ****.

With it on it takes way more thinking and skill, and prevents really broken combos.

 

[Meccs]

Ness&Ness/Ness&Lucas/Lucas&Lucas teams = yay PSI Magnet! :D
You just have to get used to FF on then it feels fine cause you can develop strategies and stuff (what everyone else said )

 

[dancingfrogman]

Friendly fire off = Grab release infinite (well, when one person is left.)

But when it's on, you have to be careful with what moves to use, as you might hurt your team mate, also, you could use weak moves on your team mate to help them recover, so with FF on, more stragedy is needed.

 

[c3gill]

Ness&Ness/Ness&Lucas/Lucas&Lucas teams = yay PSI Magnet! :D
You just have to get used to FF on then it feels fine cause you can develop strategies and stuff (what everyone else said )

Friendly Fire rocks. Lucas+ Pikachu, Lucas + Zelda, Lucas + Falco, GIVE ME HEALTH.

or a Mr G&W, here, have a full bucket. dump it on our opponents.

Friendly Fire lets us create cool strategy in doubles. It needs to stay.

 

[Problem2]

with Team Attack off, team projectiles are way too good. This actually not so evident in Brawl, but it is very noticeable in Melee. Falco + Samus on Teams without Friendly fire is madness.

 

[Tazumili]

NO

This is actually a good rule.

Stop trying to ruin everything.

 

[HizoSturm]

friendly fire makes it more fun in my opinion

 

[Project D]

yeah it makes it more challenging thus giving the fun aspect, and then you find yourself going "whoops" grabbing your own teammate or accidently spiking your own teammate then you go "ah *bleep*", just makes it funnier else e.g. a sword will just go through your teammate's head with no reaction.
or else if it was off, then you could rack damage up, teammate grab, use an attack like DK's Punch, Marth's Neutral B and strike only the opponent but not your teammate.

 

[OmegaXis]

NO

This is actually a good rule.

Stop trying to ruin everything, tourney***

That was extremely uncalled for. I simply questioned why friendly fire was considered tourney play. You really need to watch your mouth and read the full post next time. It seems I already got my answer.

 

[Mic_128]

That was extremely uncalled for. I simply questioned why friendly fire was considered tourney play. You really need to watch your mouth and read the full post next time. It seems I already got my answer.

Actually he was agreeing with your way and being a prat to everyone else.

Something else that no one's mentioned yet, your ally got knocked away but is just too far away after using his UP-B to make it back, so you hit him with a weak projectile (IE, Falco, Ness, ect) and then he can make it back.

 

[SpongeBathBill]

Something else that no one's mentioned yet, your ally got knocked away but is just too far away after using his UP-B to make it back, so you hit him with a weak projectile (IE, Falco, Ness, ect) and then he can make it back.

I would consider that skilled play

 

[GHNeko]

Friendly Fire Off?

MK + MK.

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

GG.


It's hard enough stoping 1 nado. Now try two nados that cant collide with each other, rack damage on the same person twice as fast, can combo into each other (Nado at the end of one nado and repeat)

and then add on Shuttle Loop, Dsmash, Nair, and Fsmash to set up for kills afterwards.

Enjoy your MK+MK filled pools and ladders.

 

[Erj]

Hmm I usually don't play TB's. But it would suck if FF was turned on (can't spam Fox's neutral b ) But it should be fun. I usually turn it off

 

[SmashChu]

I think it's better on. Mostly because with it off you can just spam and recklessly throw attacks everywhere, while it's so much more fun (and harder) to have to develop strategies that work well with two characters, and then actually put them to use without killing your team-mate.

I would argue that there is more you can do with it off since you can actually support your ally. Supporting and combining attacks is impossible with it on.

 

[Blue Flash]

I've always left Team Attack on(why do people call it Friendly Fire?)

I never put Team Attack on, but it looks like a way to show off your true skills instead of just using your strongest moves over and over again

 

[POKE40]

Its fun w/ FF off
But in the competitive scene problems arise:

- ic chaingrab nightmares
- gangup abilities
- MK + Snake trick
- so forth
- spam like crazy

I think thats right ):

 

[Blue Flash]

No one around my area likes to play with Team Attack on.

Also I need to find better people :/

 

[9Kplus1]

Friendly Fire Off?

MK + MK.

BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB.

GG.


It's hard enough stoping 1 nado. Now try two nados that cant collide with each other, rack damage on the same person twice as fast, can combo into each other (Nado at the end of one nado and repeat)

and then add on Shuttle Loop, Dsmash, Nair, and Fsmash to set up for kills afterwards.

Enjoy your MK+MK filled pools and ladders.

There's two players on the other team >_>. Why can't one person actually do something about one MK's nado? Unless, it's one player left on a single team, I don't see how that could happen or the stage is really, really small with room for two nados to run around.

Anyway, I always play with FF off. It's pretty ******** if both players on a team can just spam attacks around each other. FF on also adds a bit of strategy to the mix which is pretty awesome >_>. Whenever I never have any friends over, I just start a taunt party with another person on wifi (FFA with anyone) for team battle practice seeing as how there are more pro players in taunt parties than there are in actual FFA wifi with anyone. No really, taunt parties are the best practice if you've completely ran out of options; taunters are nice and they'll seek the same goal if someone tries to break up the party.

 

[GHNeko]

There's two players on the other team >_>. Why can't one person actually do something about one MK's nado? Unless, it's one player left on a single team, I don't see how that could happen or the stage is really, really small with room for two nados to run around.

Because one person cant do anything about TWO Nados. Lets see you try stopping TWO nados flying right at you. You can stop one, but what about the other right behidn it?

 

[9Kplus1]

Because one person cant do anything about TWO Nados. Lets see you try stopping TWO nados flying right at you. You can stop one, but what about the other right behidn it?

Why can't your partner stop one of them is what I'm asking.

 

[GHNeko]

Why can't your partner stop one of them is what I'm asking.

Because they'll be another one to deal with that was on top of the other?